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New Neve 1073 vs. Vintage... Other Modular Audio Processors
Old 12th December 2008
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I believe that if you do a search on the ltd-1 that you will find many posts about your question. Short answer from what I read - it is a great pre - but it is not the same. That is not necessarily good or bad.

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How does the Chandler LTD-1 compare to a vintage Neve and how close are they to each other? They seem like another good cheaper alternative, especially used.
Old 12th December 2008
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I'm buying more original Neve modules. I'm wondering why people here who claim vintage and clone sounds almost the same doesn't sell their vintage 1073 for new ones...
prolly 'cause they already have the old ones and they keep going up in price. at least that's my case.

if i were starting out i doubt i'd buy vintage. i haven't heard the new ones but from all reports they do the trick fine.
Old 12th December 2008
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This thread is from 2007.
Old 12th December 2008
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I just bought two used reissues. So far they sound basically the same as vintage modules I've tried. Really glad I didn't go for the Brent Averill ones.
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Old 12th December 2008
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I just bought the Brent Averill, which to my ears totally nails the sound.

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Old 12th December 2008
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Just bought a pair of BAE 1272's, some of the best sounding pres I've ever heard.
Old 20th December 2008
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This thread is from 2007.
Does that make it a vintage thread?
Old 20th December 2008
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I use the Averills next to the originals all the time..no-one has ever complained
Roundbadge, is the EQ on the Brents up to the task compared with the AMS ones?
How much do they differ?
Old 20th December 2008
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Roundbadge, is the EQ on the Brents up to the task compared with the AMS ones?
How much do they differ?
I know it's a question for Roundbadge but I believe he'll answer exactly the same as me. The BAE and the original 1073 modules are interchangeable and you'd be hard pressed to hear any difference between the two. The AMS Neve ones are a little more "hi-fi" sounding IMHO but it's all subjective. Personally, I chose the BAE stuff for my studio because I couldn't hear any difference between the original 1073's and the BAE 1073 modules.
Old 21st December 2008
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As for new AMS units compared to BAE, the AMS seem to be a little more hyped or open in the top end. I'm talking minute amounts - nothing you can't dial in. The BAE's are a little darker. I thought some of the vintage 1073's I've used before just sounded a little bit thicker and smoother than either of these - but I think The Avedis MA5 might be the better sounding pre of all of them.
Old 21st December 2008
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I own a pair of reissues AMS neve 1073s, and they sound incredible.

1073 to my Tubetech cl1b on lead vocals is the sound!


i have to say, I've never understood why anybody would buy a clone, when the original is still around and easily obtained.
Old 21st December 2008
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I know it's a question for Roundbadge but I believe he'll answer exactly the same as me. The BAE and the original 1073 modules are interchangeable and you'd be hard pressed to hear any difference between the two. The AMS Neve ones are a little more "hi-fi" sounding IMHO but it's all subjective. Personally, I chose the BAE stuff for my studio because I couldn't hear any difference between the original 1073's and the BAE 1073 modules.
Exactly what Josh saidthumbsup
I'd be fine with either although my wallet likes the BAE's more

also word to Avedis. did a great job w/ the MA5 .

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Old 22nd December 2008
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1084's are my fav..love having the low pass filters as well..very handy.
Yes, 1084 EQ's are more useful, IMHO..............so I would (and did) choose 1084 reissues over 1073's.
Old 22nd December 2008
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As for new AMS units compared to BAE, the AMS seem to be a little more hyped or open in the top end. I'm talking minute amounts - nothing you can't dial in. The BAE's are a little darker. I thought some of the vintage 1073's I've used before just sounded a little bit thicker and smoother than either of these - but I think The Avedis MA5 might be the better sounding pre of all of them.
I agree with you about BAE and AMS.
Old 22nd December 2008
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Not to Hijack..
Roundbadge.. Quite a few of us have purchased 1073/81/84 clones thru Chance Pataki out there in La-La land. They were bought for pennies on the dollar, literally.

Here is the thread..

ACMP-73 +++++Neve 73 CLone


Any chance you would be interested in testing out the chinese clones next to the real deals? Outside of some minor issues, they are getting some very positive reviews...


...
Old 20th June 2016
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BUMP TO THA OP
Old 20th June 2016
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Ma5 = killer!!!
Old 20th June 2016
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This thread is from 2007.
a time travelling 1073 thread - oh wait here comes another one..
Old 20th June 2016
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1084's are my fav..love having the low pass filters as well..very handy.
Yup. 1084's rule them all. The best neve ever made IMHO. Don't know why the 1073 is more famous. Maybe cause they were more common in the day.

Never tried the reissue Neve—but heard they are spot on. I have 8 vintage 1084's all consecutive serial numbers...Now I'm just flat out bragging :p I will never sell them!
Old 20th June 2016
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Yup. 1084's rule them all. The best neve ever made IMHO. Don't know why the 1073 is more famous. Maybe cause they were more common in the day.

Never tried the reissue Neve—but heard they are spot on. I have 8 vintage 1084's all consecutive serial numbers...Now I'm just flat out bragging :p I will never sell them!
The new ones aren't quite the same.
I have old ones too.
Those marinaires
Old 20th June 2016
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I'm buying more original Neve modules. I'm wondering why people here who claim vintage and clone sound almost the same don't sell their vintage 1073 for new ones...
I think they do. I sold my vintage 1084 for DIY 1084...
Old 20th June 2016
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having a low pass filter on the 1084 vs 1073 is very useful, especially more so these days with overly bright sounding mics, and some other modern gear.
Old 21st June 2016
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I will never sell them!
Right, so how much would you sell me a pair for ?
Old 21st June 2016
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The new ones aren't quite the same.
I have old ones too.
Those marinaires
Nothing is quite like a Marinaire or original St Ives i/o and nothing will likely ever be, and other components are quite different... there a differences in the 3055H's, other active devices,, cap's, and topology and implementation. Some things are better, but many are not. Anybody who says they sound the same hasn't really shot them out properly, with complex high def material and great monitoring. Many good new tools out there, but they aren't the same. Really makes a difference when it's 5-100 tracks being compared not just one lo rez file on loopback... just sayin'
Old 21st June 2016
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Nothing is quite like a Marinaire or original St Ives i/o and nothing will likely ever be, and other components are quite different... there a differences in the 3055H's, other active devices,, cap's, and topology and implementation. Some things are better, but many are not. Anybody who says they sound the same hasn't really shot them out properly, with complex high def material and great monitoring. Many good new tools out there, but they aren't the same. Really makes a difference when it's 5-100 tracks being compared not just one lo rez file on loopback... just sayin'
Yep^^
Old 21st June 2016
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Yup keep those prices / investments going up..
Old 22nd June 2016
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Yup keep those prices / investments going up..
probably the only true investment left in audio.
Old 23rd June 2016
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All I know is the new 1073DPX dual rack pre kicks some serious sonic ass!

Compare comshmare , it kicks sonic ass all on its own!

Great "modernized" build quality on this one.

I can't wait to try the new 33069/N, which is a "modernized" nod back to the "metal knob" version.

Neve has upped the anti and is still rocking hard, have no doubts!

Wow, smilie central posting.

Old 23rd June 2016
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Classic GS thread...to put things into perspective: Most listeners, including pro engineers in highend environments, fail to recognize the sonic signature of preamps in recordings when listening blindly - even though they are 100% sure they hear and recognize it when not being blind-tested. Been there, done that, many times over many years.

Now back to the regular program: Nothing, NOTHING beats the magical fairy dust star quality of the electronic parts that have been made 30 years ago, which are totally, totally impossible to reproduce in todays sad sorry chinese supplied world.
Old 25th June 2016
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Well, when the EU regulations go away in the UK, maybe we can get some of those old parts back in production -- dare to dream of the dawn of an independent Marinaire assembly shop (...-kidding! just had to get that in)
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