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Old 4 weeks ago
  #31
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A more airy, wide, clean and ambient.

B more round and dry.

Hard to know which is which. My gut says B is analog, but knowing that a lot of Dangerous gear ‘livens’ the sound I could also see A being Dangerous.

Please PM results.
Old 4 weeks ago
  #32
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I got it wrong, so hiding my opinions in shame.
Old 4 weeks ago
  #33
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My guess is

A = Cubase
B = Analog summing

I have no first hand experience with OTB summing, but to me, B sounds a bit more thick and 'analog' if you will. When that low bass hits in middle of the track, it seems thicker in B vs. A.

I'd be happy with either mix.
Old 4 weeks ago
  #34
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OK here is the result: A: Dangerous, B Cubase

I created the track in Cubase. Mix B is the result of it -- direct mix and summing. Although I have used lots of saturation plugin trying to mimic an analog vibe.

Then I got the Dangerous Box, So I simply routed everything to it without any further adjustments. I would say in this particular case B is a better mix since A's balance is off due to uneven levels of the Summing Box (or the DA converter. I need to find out.)

My obervation is that the summing box could certainly bring much more possibilities, giving me a wider image and bigger headroom to work with and can surely enable me to get a better mix if I mix directly into it instead of simply routing things to it.

Thank you all for your participation and opinions.
Old 4 weeks ago
  #35
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Originally Posted by ywshuo View Post
OK here is the result: A: Dangerous, B Cubase

I created the track in Cubase. Mix B is the result of it -- direct mix and summing. Although I have used lots of saturation plugin trying to mimic an analog vibe.

Then I got the Dangerous Box, So I simply routed everything to it without any further adjustments. I would say in this particular case B is a better mix since A's balance is off due to uneven levels of the Summing Box (or the DA converter. I need to find out.)

My obervation is that the summing box could certainly bring much more possibilities, giving me a wider image and bigger headroom to work with and can surely enable me to get a better mix if I mix directly into it instead of simply routing things to it.

Thank you all for your participation and opinions.
I'm glad I guessed it right, however I don't hear only dangerous analog summing in A because the Apogee converters' sonic imprint is actually quite noticeable to me and therefore was kind of a hint.
Old 3 weeks ago
  #36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ywshuo View Post
OK here is the result: A: Dangerous, B Cubase

I created the track in Cubase. Mix B is the result of it -- direct mix and summing. Although I have used lots of saturation plugin trying to mimic an analog vibe.

Then I got the Dangerous Box, So I simply routed everything to it without any further adjustments. I would say in this particular case B is a better mix since A's balance is off due to uneven levels of the Summing Box (or the DA converter. I need to find out.)

My obervation is that the summing box could certainly bring much more possibilities, giving me a wider image and bigger headroom to work with and can surely enable me to get a better mix if I mix directly into it instead of simply routing things to it.

Thank you all for your participation and opinions.
I use a 2 Bus+ as well. Mixing through it will make a significant difference. Here’s a little tip for you:
On channels 15 & 16, I engage the paralimit and harmonics, turn both knobs fully clockwise, and use that as analog parallel compression channel. Saw Fab DuPont do it on a Puremix video. Works great. Happy summing
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