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Are their any near-field monitors better than the ATC SCM25s Studio Monitors
Old 4th March 2019
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Do you by any chance remember what amplifier was powering the Strauss monitors when you heard them?
Yes, a Bryston 2.5B.

Have you heard them?
Old 4th March 2019
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The issue is :

- XYZ problem (in this case SBIR, resonances, etc..)

Is an analog or digital implementation 'better' (ie: more effective) at solving this problem?


an 'analog system' solution consists of bass trapping, room acoustics, angles, pressure loading, etc... (altering physical properties) to control the expression of the Problem ... These address the Problem directly.

additionally driver technology/innovation (materials, construction, etc..) are part of this analog system solution.

Northward and ATC are a top-tier 'analog system' to accomplish a solution to this Problem.


a 'digital system' solution utilizes DSP before the analog conversion (driver movement/transaction) to avoid exciting the Problem in the first place.

In the end it will always come back to being a section of an analog system solution (physical cone movement/room interaction = analog system) a DSP system alters the cone movement (timing/freq response) with the inverse of the room 'problems'..... this can cause it's own set of issues (limited headroom, cone-breakup if too extreme a correction is attempted) etc ...

but the 8 feet of rockwool needed for some analog solutions has problems too your space might not fit that


A digital system doesn't change the physical space to remove the interaction, it attempts to avoid it from the start (cardiod bass, DSP phase steering, digital switching amps, etc..) ie: don't fix it, mitigate it.


Two solutions to the same set of problems.

You can never have a 100% DSP/digital solution... the final transducer will always come from an analog only system. but DSP processing can be a life-saver if you don't have the space/budget for a full 'analog system solution'. 8' of rockwool in your backwall, 15' ceiling, and soffit mount, etc... isn't reasonable for everyone


In short : the playback chain is a sum of parts (listener, room, driver, amp, tastes). the ultimate goal is a transduction system that is "accurate", "engaging", "insert your adjective here", it can be accomplished many many ways


to answer the OP question. ATC are great. Buy them, try them ... if you don't like it for whatever reason (taste, room junk, etc..) they are very easy to re-sell and are proven to hold excellent value.
Old 4th March 2019
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Originally Posted by loji View Post
The issue is :

- XYZ problem (in this case SBIR, resonances, etc..)

Is an analog or digital implementation 'better' (ie: more effective) at solving this problem?


an 'analog system' solution consists of bass trapping, room acoustics, angles, pressure loading, etc... (altering physical properties) to control the expression of the Problem ... These address the Problem directly.

additionally driver technology/innovation (materials, construction, etc..) are part of this analog system solution.

Northward and ATC are a top-tier 'analog system' to accomplish a solution to this Problem.


a 'digital system' solution utilizes DSP before the analog conversion (driver movement/transaction) to avoid exciting the Problem in the first place.

In the end it will always come back to being a section of an analog system solution (physical cone movement/room interaction = analog system) a DSP system alters the cone movement (timing/freq response) with the inverse of the room 'problems'..... this can cause it's own set of issues (limited headroom, cone-breakup if too extreme a correction is attempted) etc ...

but the 8 feet of rockwool needed for some analog solutions has problems too your space might not fit that


A digital system doesn't change the physical space to remove the interaction, it attempts to avoid it from the start (cardiod bass, DSP phase steering, digital switching amps, etc..) ie: don't fix it, mitigate it.


Two solutions to the same set of problems.

You can never have a 100% DSP/digital solution... the final transducer will always come from an analog only system. but DSP processing can be a life-saver if you don't have the space/budget for a full 'analog system solution'. 8' of rockwool in your backwall, 15' ceiling, and soffit mount, etc... isn't reasonable for everyone


In short : the playback chain is a sum of parts (listener, room, driver, amp, tastes). the ultimate goal is a transduction system that is "accurate", "engaging", "insert your adjective here", it can be accomplished many many ways


to answer the OP question. ATC are great. Buy them, try them ... if you don't like it for whatever reason (taste, room junk, etc..) they are very easy to re-sell and are proven to hold excellent value.
The best post in this thread and one of the best for any monitor choice threads overall
Old 2 days ago
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Amphion One 15s sound more linear, flat and just a better mixing/mastering speaker to my ear with a class A/B amp and a good sub like a Dynaudio
Can you recommend an Amp for ONE15?
Don't like the Amp100?
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