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Old 11th May 2011
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I had a studio in the '90s that had THAT console. 40x32x32 and encased in mahogany wood. It was a good desk! I also worked on the Rolling Stones Mobile on its FIRST ever US gig--Patti Smith Group@CBGB's--another awesome console!


Here's a "promo" poster for our studio. If you zoom in a little, you can kind of see "The Brown."
I had a friend who recorded and mixed a few tracks on that desk.. he loved it!

He mentioned it was the one from the 'Townhouse' studios in London and was responsible for the epochal 'In the air tonight' by Phil Collins and that infamous drum intro!

Thanks
Wiggy
Old 16th May 2011
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"In The Air Tonight"

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I had a friend who recorded and mixed a few tracks on that desk.. he loved it!

He mentioned it was the one from the 'Townhouse' studios in London and was responsible for the epochal 'In the air tonight' by Phil Collins and that infamous drum intro!

Thanks
Wiggy
Yes, Tony Arnold, a gentleman and previous owner of that desk, "Brown Helios", said the same thing. But I'm not too sure. It was at the Townhouse (3 or 4?/ Ramport) before Tony got it. Steve Lillywhite came and hung out after I got it and said "ITAT" was done on an SSL. I do know that PIL "Metal Box" was done on it though.
Old 21st June 2011
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"Brownie"

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I had a studio in the '90s that had THAT console. 40x32x32 and encased in mahogany wood. It was a good desk! I also worked on the Rolling Stones Mobile on its FIRST ever US gig--Patti Smith Group@CBGB's--another awesome console!


Here's a "promo" poster for our studio. If you zoom in a little, you can kind of see "The Brown."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiggy Neve Slut View Post
I had a friend who recorded and mixed a few tracks on that desk.. he loved it!

He mentioned it was the one from the 'Townhouse' studios in London and was responsible for the epochal 'In the air tonight' by Phil Collins and that infamous drum intro!

Thanks
Wiggy
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Originally Posted by tekis View Post
Yes, Tony Arnold, a gentleman and previous owner of that desk, "Brown Helios", said the same thing. But I'm not too sure. It was at the Townhouse (3 or 4?/ Ramport) before Tony got it. Steve Lillywhite came and hung out after I got it and said "ITAT" was done on an SSL. I do know that PIL "Metal Box" was done on it though.
That sure looks like the Helios that now resides at Shorefire Recording in Long Branch, NJ... nicknamed "Brownie", the perfect centerpiece for my buddy Joe DeMaio's setup. This Type 79 replaced an MCI 636.

Here's a pic of me sitting in front of it:



Another view with my friend Thomas Jones:



Another good one:

Old 30th June 2011
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Yes, it is the same console. But he took the wraparound wings off... It served us well though!
Old 30th June 2011
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Does anyone know anything about the one that was sold from Lombard Sound in Dublin in 1984? Don Larking decommissioned that studio. A sad day it was.
Old 5th July 2011
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Well 6+1, actually.

RE-100
RE-101
RE-200
RE-201
RE-301
RE-501
Multivox MX-201 (a space echo at heart)

My 201 I bought when I was 17, I've had it for 10 years. It was one of the first gear purchases I made, and it's still my favorite.

The RE-100 and RE-200 are some of the earliest models, they look different from the later ones and use a Sony tape cartridge kinda thingie rather than a loop under plexiglas. The sound and echo times available are significantly different. Pic attached.

I have tons of accessories, too. Footswitches, cleaning kit, covers, service manual, etc.
AND I know a couple of bitchin' Space Echo techs, too. Kevin Lightner is one, and used to work for Roland in the service dept. If anyone needs one, get in touch, I'll give you the contact info.

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Old 28th July 2011
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Does anyone know anything about the one that was sold from Lombard Sound in Dublin in 1984? Don Larking decommissioned that studio. A sad day it was.
lombard is now westland. the helios was replaced with an ssl e series. the live room is still the same. i love recording in there
Old 28th July 2011
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lombard is now westland. the helios was replaced with an ssl e series. the live room is still the same. i love recording in there
I know, I was the first full time staff engineer when Westland first opened. Give me the old Helios any day!
Old 20th March 2016
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hello,

i have a few Type 78 modules in a green color that i purchased from Vintage King in 2002. they didn't have much background info or schematics for me when i acquired them so i have no idea which studio originally ordered this desk. my search around the web hasn't turned up any mention of a green Helios other than the Apple console. i think the Apple consoles had Type 69 but i'm not positive.

i came across this link but the website is not loading.
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/ind.../t/16023/6490/

can anyone here ID these modules? Maybe Tony Arnold will chime in and help me figure out the origins of these particular modules.

thanks

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Old 22nd March 2016
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Those modules I think came from me @russel Elevado
I traded 2 of the green 78´s for some Altecs w/ VK.
I got them from Funky Junk Sweden, I seem to remember them being from some radiostation, like SR in Sweden.
Never got the schematics or anything with them.
I kinda regret the trade, should´ve just serviced them, as they didn´t sound quite right....

Best,
Tom
Old 22nd March 2016
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When we did the great Helios listening party 10 years ago we discovered that some Helios modules sounded truly awful compared to others. We had 11 different modules and conducted the test over two days. I had a special switcher built so we could step through the the modules while the 3 piece band kept playing. Then we compared and compared and compared. The original Olympic modules were the king daddy of them all, many were close to this, some had us all saying "what was Dick thinking?".

Anyway, I still have all those files from this test. I never did write the article I was going to about them as to try and describe in print what we all heard was impossible.

Tony Arnold can probably identity those modules for you.
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Old 22nd March 2016
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Those modules I think came from me @russel Elevado
I traded 2 of the green 78´s for some Altecs w/ VK.
I got them from Funky Junk Sweden, I seem to remember them being from some radiostation, like SR in Sweden.
Never got the schematics or anything with them.
I kinda regret the trade, should´ve just serviced them, as they didn´t sound quite right....

Best,
Tom
hi Tom, thanks for your reply!
i bought 8 channels from VK and racked them at Boutique Audio. I emailed Tony and i am pleasantly surprised that he got back to me within two days! he said there is a possibility they might have come from the Apple desk. i'm going to shoot him pics of the innards and maybe we can narrow it down. i believe Apple ordered 2 desks?

it would be a total coincidence if they turn up to be from Apple. but for historical information that special, i can only assume that someone at VK would have known??
Old 23rd March 2016
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I had a pair of VK racked -24 volt Helios Lustraphone modules and a couple of 32v modules here from the Late great John Kuker.
interesting even with the different voltage rails they sounded the same.
[although the 32 v had about 6 db more gain].
the mic pre's had a cool kinda "chewy" vibe,coupled with the passive EQ made them very unique.
Old 24th March 2016
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I've always wondered about the upright Apple Green Helios consoles (I wonder
why more boards aren't built this way..)

Paul McCartney also had a four channel sidecar..

Surely it's not the sort of thing the Beatles would ever
sell. I always assumed they would have like Pete Townsend put all
their past studio equipment in storage and dig it out when they
liked or passed it on to family to use.. I would really like to hear
any updates on the subject - great work by the way Russell..

I owned an early Lustraphone 69 many years ago - snares and vocals

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Old 15th December 2016
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I bought eight preamp modules and 15 eq modules those are pulled out from a Helios console owned by the Finnish TV channel called MTV3 http://www.helios-electronics.com/Mainos_TV_Finland.JPG
I think this console is from the early/mid seventies but I do not really know for sure. Here is some pics https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...UczOFo4bGxfSm8
I would be mighty grateful if someone can tell anything about modules like these.

My plan is to build a side car with 8 pres + eqs. The rest of the eqs I will put in rack enclosures.
Old 16th December 2016
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I have a pair of somebody's 69s here, that I believe are Lustraphone modules. They sound amazing. Based on Larry's experience during the shootout, I recently grabbed what appears to be an early pair of Tony Arnold made '69s, and they sound pretty goddamn close to the originals. He even got that weird taper thing the pots have in the EQ.

BTW, I have a pair of faders from the Who's Ramport Studios Helios. They are an interesting Aquamarine type color.
Old 16th December 2016
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BTW, I was at Capitol recently, and John Mayer has this very cool 16 channel, 4 bus Helios console in there. Looks more like a side car than a full console. Extremely slutty. I should have taken a pic.
Old 16th December 2016
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Originally Posted by J0hanne5 View Post
I bought eight preamp modules and 15 eq modules those are pulled out from a Helios console owned by the Finnish TV channel called MTV3 http://www.helios-electronics.com/Mainos_TV_Finland.JPG
I think this console is from the early/mid seventies but I do not really know for sure. Here is some pics https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...UczOFo4bGxfSm8
I would be mighty grateful if someone can tell anything about modules like these.

My plan is to build a side car with 8 pres + eqs. The rest of the eqs I will put in rack enclosures.
I've owned pretty much every variant from 3 band passive Lustraphone,4 band sowters and beyer equipped modules.
those look like mid/late 70's Sowter 3 bands.cool
Old 16th December 2016
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I just went over my Helios notes from the listen party for Will Shanks of UA Audio. Man over 10 years ago now. Wow does time fly.

I should really post the notes and the files that we recorded over that two day event. Eddie Kramer handled all the mixing and the modules. He was emulating Zepplin at Headley Grange for the mic set up. Very cool stuff.

Maybe I'll have time after the first of the year to do this.

Anyone interested in Helios would find these files fascinating. Here are some of us relaxing in Paul's pub at the end of the first day...
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Old 16th December 2016
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Man, when you look back at this thread and see who originally posted its amazing. Peter Gotcher (you can thank him for Pro Tools), MGod, Dan Schwartz (the bass player on a Tuesday night Supper Club by Cheryl Crow, Terry Manning (Ardent / Compass Point), Oliver Archut (RIP Ollie, miss you man)... GS used to have some heavy hitters post on threads.

And some of us are still posting...
Old 16th December 2016
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Ha
What a crew!
Old 17th December 2016
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I love my Helios 69-500 but it seems to be impossible to find new ones.. too bad, time to start harvest Helios modules before the get super expensive :/
Old 18th December 2016
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Are they out of business?

They act like it.
Old 18th December 2016
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Not out of business,
Just hit a few bumps in the road...
Old 19th December 2016
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A&DR F600 which actually is the Helios F600 compressor module, these things are FET atomic smashers as compressors, they suck like a 100$ buck a minute H**r and man do they pull their weight, the FX760 has the same compression scheme!
Old 19th December 2016
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Our little Helios rack...

I was inspired by Paulie's mobile rack back in the day and picked these up. We then had Tim Mead at Vintage King build us a custom rack which includes:

- balanced or unbalanced outputs
- Cinemag output transformer

In addition to running the modules in their stock configuration, we can utilize the custom options for more headroom if desired.


Best,
Tim

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https://www.instagram.com/tracehorsestudio/
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Old 20th December 2016
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^ That's damn impressive!

Very curious, what did VK charge for that custom black beauty Helios?

Old 9th January 2017
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BTW, I was at Capitol recently, and John Mayer has this very cool 16 channel, 4 bus Helios console in there. Looks more like a side car than a full console. Extremely slutty. I should have taken a pic.
That was my old desk...ugh. I miss that thing.
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Old 9th January 2017
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That was my old desk...ugh. I miss that thing.
ooh I remember when you had that.
beautiful little desk!
Old 9th January 2017
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Mike! Long time no hear!

What happened to your one?

Has anyone an update on Tony Arnold?

Have they stopped making the 500 series?

Did 500 series comp ever make it to production?

I'd like a pair of 500 series one day
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