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Old 2nd June 2018
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Real or Fake- images Neumann

hello everyone.

i have recently noticed on Reverb there are a lot of rare, old, and collectable microphones, coming up at low cost, from sites in Budapest Hungary and Prague Czech Republic.

i also found a link between the sellers website, and a specific individuals F/Book page.

the individual has posted the following images on F/B.

the image names are the text that was alongside the images on F/B

personally im concerned, but wondered what the wider community thinks about this

Buddha
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Old 2nd June 2018
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also these images
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Old 2nd June 2018
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Everything aside from the MTG UM mic pics and the lollipop heads appear to be clone / assembled kit mics, though it’s hard to say what’s going on with the capsules. The ribbons looks like OEM from Asia.

Could be good stuff, hard to say. I thought that some of the assembly pics were staged a little oddly and that the assembly on the most complete looking clone looks a little sloppy, but it also appears that maybe it’s not done. If you leap for it, probably not a bad idea to see more finished results, get a return policy, etc...
Old 2nd June 2018
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The “M49” picture you posted is titled “m49 Clones coming soon.” So it doesn’t appear they are trying to be dishonest - or perhaps they are really bad at it
Old 2nd June 2018
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Everything aside from the MTG UM mic pics and the lollipop heads appear to be clone / assembled kit mics, though it’s hard to say what’s going on with the capsules. The ribbons looks like OEM from Asia.

Could be good stuff, hard to say. I thought that some of the assembly pics were staged a little oddly and that the assembly on the most complete looking clone looks a little sloppy, but it also appears that maybe it’s not done. If you leap for it, probably not a bad idea to see more finished results, get a return policy, etc...
i have no intention of buying anything non genuine.

my concern is that the items for sale on Reverb site, are listed as being genuine vintage Neumann, and the same guy is making these which look like clones to me.

he also has AKG-C12, as well as the U47s and UM-57 and the ribbons.

someone could lose a lot of money on non genuine gear.

Buddha
Old 2nd June 2018
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The “M49” picture you posted is titled “m49 Clones coming soon.” So it doesn’t appear they are trying to be dishonest - or perhaps they are really bad at it
there are lots of very vague comments alongside the images on the F/B page

but the Reverb site lists the articles for sale as genuine Neumann.

if you search Reverb for Neumann, and look specifically at the ones for sale from Budhapest in Hungary, you will find the listings.

Buddha
Old 3rd June 2018
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Originally Posted by BIG BUDDHA View Post
there are lots of very vague comments alongside the images on the F/B page

but the Reverb site lists the articles for sale as genuine Neumann.

if you search Reverb for Neumann, and look specifically at the ones for sale from Budhapest in Hungary, you will find the listings.

Buddha
Well then that IS troubling! Thanks for pointing it out.
Old 3rd June 2018
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There is nothing wrong with those listings as far as I can see.

Those sellers repair vintage microphones, as well as make clones. Nothing they are selling looks fishy, nor is particularly cheaply priced.

The fact that they are from hungary or czech republic is also not troublesome. There are many highly educated and respected technicians in eastern europe. Think Flea, Blue, etc.
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