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API 560 graphic eq Equalisers (HW)
Old 5th February 2018
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API 560 graphic eq

Considering getting one
Have heard nothing but great things..
Does the hype live up to the product?

Thanks in advance for your responses
Old 5th February 2018
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Considering getting one
Have heard nothing but great things..
Does the hype live up to the product?

Thanks in advance for your responses
I like them, a lot actually, but what are you going to use it for?

With EQ I always buy in pairs for bus/2bus processing, or stereo applications. That way if I need more than a mono sound with the same EQ I can get it.

It would not be my first, second or even third EQ however. I would have a pair around if I needed more utility EQ's for drums and guitars mainly. In a pinch they'll work on anything and net you an almost pultec like response with aggressive settings...but they're gyrator based. Not inductor based, so the tone is different in a way I like a bit less in that capacity.

They're also not the cleanest sound. Maag EQ2 and EQ4 in a chain for two extra bands and input attenuation yield the best results in the 500 series format I've tried for a more clean thing with a slight bit of texture.
Old 5th February 2018
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Alternatively check out the Capi lc 25/40 series.
More musical than 560’s.
Old 5th February 2018
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Alternatively check out the Capi lc 25/40 series.
More musical than 560’s.
Those are stepped too right RB? They look great.

Also I almost mentioned the Purple TAV's those sound really good and are inductor based (I prefer them to 560's).
Old 5th February 2018
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I like them, a lot actually, but what are you going to use it for?
Thanks for your response, as it was very helpful.
All great responses!

I enjoy capturing live, original samples in public on a variety of tape/digital voice recorders.
With that being said, I've been considering getting something like this to shape them to my exact specifications before dumping them in.

Can't tell you how many times I stumbled across an incredible, 'audio phenomenon' by simply recording while grocery shopping.. or while shooting some pool.. going out to eat... etc..
and in spite of the finished product working, and being true to the sample.. in my personal opinion.. most of the live samples ive used (that weren't the focus point of the song) never sat in my mix as well as I'd have liked them to.
Sometimes ended up sounding... or.. feeling 'lacking' somewhere in the freq. Spectrum or another. Also, I've heard that it's a great multipurpose EQ esp for drums.

Really, I'm just a huge fan of hands on production in general.. and I want something rather powerful with more than 6 bands to experiment with seemingly unlimited options in regards to EQing my unpredictable ass samples
Old 5th February 2018
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Alternatively check out the Capi lc 25/40 series.
More musical than 560’s.
Truth.......

I like these much better
Old 5th February 2018
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Thanks for your response, as it was very helpful.
All great responses!

I enjoy capturing live, original samples in public on a variety of tape/digital voice recorders.
With that being said, I've been considering getting something like this to shape them to my exact specifications before dumping them in.

Can't tell you how many times I stumbled across an incredible, 'audio phenomenon' by simply recording while grocery shopping.. or while shooting some pool.. going out to eat... etc..
and in spite of the finished product working, and being true to the sample.. in my personal opinion.. most of the live samples ive used (that weren't the focus point of the song) never sat in my mix as well as I'd have liked them to.
Sometimes ended up sounding... or.. feeling 'lacking' somewhere in the freq. Spectrum or another. Also, I've heard that it's a great multipurpose EQ esp for drums.

Really, I'm just a huge fan of hands on production in general.. and I want something rather powerful with more than 6 bands to experiment with seemingly unlimited options in regards to EQing my unpredictable ass samples
I have a really good friend who does this sort of thing in LA.

Shoot me a line man maybe I can put you guys in touch.

Are you working with 1 or 2 mics?


I would chain a MAAG EQ2 into an EQ4. You would have a lot more flexibility than you think, clarity, recall ability, and input attenuation. Your samples will come off way more "realistic", but huge sounding. Like they're under a microscope. What you will track will sound way more "true", but hi-fi.
Old 6th February 2018
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Alternatively check out the Capi lc 25/40 series.
More musical than 560’s.
I do like the 250 & 500hz and 1k on the 560 though.
Old 6th February 2018
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I do like the 250 & 500hz and 1k on the 560 though.
Yeah more grainy aggressive.I still have some old 560’s I like.
Old 6th February 2018
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I have had both old and new 560s. Didn't get on with either of them. The Purple TAV is smoother for my money. Haven't tried the CAPI (though would love to). The king of thumb wheel graphic EQs for my money is the Aengus (but they are like rocking horse poop - I have been looking for a second one to make a pair for about ten years now)
Old 6th February 2018
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This may be a dumb question...

What's is the best way to buy CAPI gear with out having to build anything? I'm a mixer, not a builder.
Old 7th February 2018
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Alternatively check out the Capi lc 25/40 series.
More musical than 560’s.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Leaning more towards a graphic eq over something sweepable.
Old 7th February 2018
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Thanks for the suggestion!
Leaning more towards a graphic eq over something sweepable.
You might want to look closer.
They’re NOT sweepable
They’re graphhics but with knobs
Old 7th February 2018
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This may be a dumb question...

What's is the best way to buy CAPI gear with out having to build anything? I'm a mixer, not a builder.
Look for Billy Pratt on Facebook
A total pro
Fast efficient and good prices
Old 7th February 2018
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API 560 is a great piece. I haven’t heard that CAPI but Jeff makes amazing gear in general too!
Old 7th February 2018
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You might want to look closer.
They’re NOT sweepable
They’re graphhics but with knobs
Oh wow.. thanks for pointing that out
Old 7th February 2018
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This may be a dumb question...

What's is the best way to buy CAPI gear with out having to build anything? I'm a mixer, not a builder.
I had Chalia Baker at Custom Analog Services • Catalog and co. Build me some vp28s last year and they did a really good job. I will probably buy more from them in the future, but honestly only for the complex stuff because the simpler builds are really easy, if you solder your own cables you can build them. For the EQs, I would hire someone as its too fiddly.
Old 9th February 2018
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Look for Billy Pratt on Facebook
A total pro
Fast efficient and good prices
Billy is the best!
Old 11th February 2018
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Alternatively check out the Capi lc 25/40 series.
More musical than 560’s.

THIS, plus the stepped controls vs the sliders make recall a breeze
Old 11th February 2018
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Considering getting one
Have heard nothing but great things..
Does the hype live up to the product?

Thanks in advance for your responses
They sound good but limited... IMO they should make one with switchable octaves. 560 along with a APSI 559 is a good set. No 3-3.5k is bummer on the 560.
Old 13th February 2018
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Considering getting one
Have heard nothing but great things..
Does the hype live up to the product?

Thanks in advance for your responses
check out Purple TAV before....
Old 9th February 2019
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Alternatively check out the Capi lc 25/40 series.
More musical than 560’s.
Sorry to revive a one year old thread, but it seems, that a lot of you here, including RoundBadge have experienced both the 560 and the lc 25/40.
I really want something to eq kick and bass. My most surgical eqs are the RND 5033 and the ISA215. Great pieces, but I miss the pointiness I get from my API 5500 and my CAPI BT50s.
So, I’m leaning towards the 560, mostly because of the frequencies in the low end. And then, there’s the CAPI graphics - I love soldering my own stuff, and Jeff has yet to disappoint me.
So for those, who have made direct comparison between the two, what are the differences, and why do you prefer one over the other?
Old 10th February 2019
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Sorry to revive a one year old thread, but it seems, that a lot of you here, including RoundBadge have experienced both the 560 and the lc 25/40.
I really want something to eq kick and bass. My most surgical eqs are the RND 5033 and the ISA215. Great pieces, but I miss the pointiness I get from my API 5500 and my CAPI BT50s.
So, I’m leaning towards the 560, mostly because of the frequencies in the low end. And then, there’s the CAPI graphics - I love soldering my own stuff, and Jeff has yet to disappoint me.
So for those, who have made direct comparison between the two, what are the differences, and why do you prefer one over the other?
Lc’s Are smoother,creamier.
I still love 560’s(more aggressive) for kick etc.
Old 10th February 2019
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I have 25s & 40s now and no regrets....really fab but....... I still miss 560 1k!
Mr Capi - why no 1k???? Does api own 1k?
Do they own the patent on 1k?
Can I swap out a cap?
I want 1k.
Did I mention I like 1k?
It’s not just me....guitars really like 1k too......
Old 10th February 2019
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Lc’s Are smoother,creamier.
I still love 560’s(more aggressive) for kick etc.
So where do you use your LCs vs your 560s?
Old 10th February 2019
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I have 25s & 40s now and no regrets....really fab but....... I still miss 560 1k!
Mr Capi - why no 1k???? Does api own 1k?
Do they own the patent on 1k?
Can I swap out a cap?
I want 1k.
Did I mention I like 1k?
It’s not just me....guitars really like 1k too......
So you had 560s but now have lc’s?
Do you use them for kick, too?
Old 10th February 2019
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I did. I had 2 x 560s and 2 x 512s. Sold them and made some CAPI VP28s and LCs and still had a chunk of change leftover. No regrets at all except for.....1k.
I use AML Pultec for kick. Harder to do damage with those curves.
Old 10th February 2019
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So where do you use your LCs vs your 560s?
No set rules but 560’s when a little more aggressive eq is needed..an old staple on kick drums = neve 1084 followed by 560.
Old 11th February 2019
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No set rules but 560’s when a little more aggressive eq is needed..an old staple on kick drums = neve 1084 followed by 560.
Would you always prefer one of the LCs on kick vs a new 560?
And do you prefer the 25 or 40 for kick?
Old 5th March 2019
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I would sell my 560 if you are interested
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