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ATC SCM10 Signature Edition, anyone?
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ATC SCM10 Signature Edition, anyone?

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He said he's not fond of Class D amps for distortion reasons. I wonder what he'd think of the Amphion amps?
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Distortion???
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Desperately wanted a pair of these when they came out - such a gorgeous design...

I suspect you'd have issues with headroom if you wanted to use these in the studio. SCM7s (and the old SCM10) are stunningly refined, especially for such a small two-way speaker, but that's exactly what they are and there's no way a <5" driver is going to kick out enough bottom end to really feel what's going on without donking the voice coil.

Mind you though I do sometimes like to monitor fairly loud at certain points during a mix...
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Distortion???
At the 3:27 mark in the video.
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He said he's not fond of Class D amps for distortion reasons. I wonder what he'd think of the Amphion amps?

I wonder what you'd think of a pair of Amphions with an ATC amp?
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Has anyone listened to the ATC SCM10 Signature edition?

http://atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/l...ature-edition/

Seems to be the greater achievement of ATC, or at least that's what ATC founder says:

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This SCM10SE speaker sounds very close to the SCM7 consumer speaker. SCM7's sound very much like the 20's, just not as loud. So for a very small bedroom system or small living room, they are awesome. I use them for surround channels at home.

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I wonder what you'd think of a pair of Amphions with an ATC amp?
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Not sure. I have the Amphions here. If you want to send the ATC amp, I'm game

I've wondered how they would sound out a decent A/AB. Like the new Bryston cubed amp perhaps with their BP17 cubed.

What do ATC speakers users typically go with in hifi and pro? ATC actives or ATC passives with ATC amps? I'm guessing the first is the preferred.

Besides ATC active design and amps, I don't see much, if any, focus given to the ATC pre-amps.
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This SC10SE speaker sounds very close to the SCM7 consumer speaker. SCM7's sound very much like the 20's, just not as loud. So for a very small bedroom system or small living room, they are awesome. I use them for surround channels at home.

Brad
Have you listened the SCM10 SE?

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Not sure. I have the Amphions here. If you want to send the ATC amp, I'm game

I've wondered how they would sound out a decent A/AB. Like the new Bryston cubed amp perhaps with their BP17 cubed.

What do ATC speakers users typically go with in hifi and pro? ATC actives or ATC passives with ATC amps? I'm guessing the first is the preferred.

Besides ATC active design and amps, I don't see much, if any, focus given to the ATC pre-amps.
Sounds like you are talking from a hi fi perspective.

ATC active is always better than ATC passive with ATC amps. ATC amps are good, certainly on par with other large amplifiers like Bryston. They are not exotica, where you can find a class d that sounds amazing but costs 30K. ATC preamps (example, CA2) analog will run with the big boys in hi fi; ATC is an international exporter and in some countries having a matching system you know all sounds good together is a priority. A preamp with multiple unbalanced inputs is not useful in pro so there would be little discussion of it here.

Oh on the amp, in Canada call HHB and ask for an amp demo.

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Have you listened the SCM10 SE?

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No. We did not import any to the US. It was purely a high end hi fi speaker for the high end consumer crowd-no application in pro.

Brad

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No, but thanks for video link, I'd not seen it before, enjoyed seeing the old master talking about his creations.
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Sounds like you are talking from a hi fi perspective.

ATC active is always better than ATC passive with ATC amps. ATC amps are good, certainly on par with other large amplifiers like Bryston. They are not exotica, where you can find a class d that sounds amazing but costs 30K. ATC preamps (example, CA2) analog will run with the big boys in hi fi; ATC is an international exporter and in some countries having a matching system you know all sounds good together is a priority. A preamp with multiple unbalanced inputs is not useful in pro so there would be little discussion of it here.

Oh on the amp, in Canada call HHB and ask for an amp demo.

Brad
I'll go with active ATCs when the time comes.

I did find this comment about ATC's amp with Amphions:

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/12508744-post5132.html
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seeing scm10se like a scm7 with polish is a mistake

scm10se is a very different kind of animal. Better high-freq driver than scm7 with larger magnets, different crossover, different materials, and not to mention the luxury casing. I guess mr. Woodman put his signature on scm10se to make a statement.
Now, listening: an acquintace of mine named scm10se "very clever speakers"; I asked what he meant by those words. He replied that the sound is unforced, silky, yet spacious, complete, detailed, seeming forgiving, yet extremely detailed - a paradox, he said. The only thing missing was the grand bass, spatial, gutty low bass. SCM10SE delivers a quick and deep bass (linear down to 50Hz), lower than SCM20SE (I had those, too; had many brands before, like Raidho, Dynaudio, Spendor, Harbeth, Elac, than SCM11, than 19, than 20, than 10SE, and stopped). Oddly, SCM10SE sounds better than SCM20SL, and seems to get as low as 20s. Only the scale of bass is narrower, but in small room (up to 15 sqm) the 10s are perfect. Just to emphasize the lower bass lines, I intend to acquire a pair of powered subwoofers (closed box, of course); not for the noise, but for the impact.
Every musical genre is faithfully displayed by SCM10SE, everything is there, even the lowest bass, but in small audible amount.
Bref: SCM10SE is truly a gem. But,
10s require truly a vast amount of power AND current. I have ATC P2 (2x300w/8ohm), and it seems to ask for more. Also, 10s require the best behind them: cables, sources, preamplifier, amplifier have to be exquisite, in order to enjoy the quality of the sounds that can be heard through SCM10SE.
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scm10se is a very different kind of animal. Better high-freq driver than scm7 with larger magnets, different crossover,
Same crossover at 2.5kHz for both SCM7 and SCM10SE
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Same crossover at 2.5kHz for both SCM7 and SCM10SE
May be different components, quality-wise
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