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Tears for Fears "Song from Big Chair" and "Sowing the Seeds of Love"
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thnx for the heads up dude
Old 4 weeks ago
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Loving this thread guys; both the tech insights and the music. This was the first CD I ever bought...and now my first post on GS

Anyway, check this RO interview that's just surfaced: more revealing on the inter personal relationship stuff and some new songs to come...

https://www.superdeluxeedition.com/i...sde-interview/
Old 4 weeks ago
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thnx for the heads up dude
That 'Happy Ending' CD is currently my favorite record. It never gets old!

I'm still a bit surprised I've never heard any buzz about it, no songs on the radio, etc.
Old 4 weeks ago
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Shortly after the boys broke up...
I got a call from Curt Smith about working on a new solo project with him.

Obviously Roland wasn't going to be involved, but he said he was basically going to bring in the entire Tears for Fears
live rhythm section with him.

Being a huge fan myself, I got to ask loads of questions about all their previous productions, how things were cut, who did what, the gear, etc, etc..

What I learned, and didn't know up to that time.
Is that Roland was micro managing everything in minute detail.

For example:

Manu cutting drums on Woman in Chains.
This could take 1 day, and or a week, depending on what Roland was searching for in that tune?

Now after that was done, Roland would then load the tracks into the Fairlight or Synclavier,
(I don't remember which one he used) and edit for another week or so.
(All this just for the first part of the drums for that particular song.)

According to Curt this was pretty much standard procedure for Roland.
So 2 weeks for a drum track wasn't that unusual.

Now remember where this all was taking place, and the cost of that studio time was a big deal $$$,
Especially Real World.
Multiply this for all the overdubs.
You get the deal

Apparently this work ethic, put the boys into serious debt with the label, and was also part of the reason they split shortly thereafter.

That said, I'm sure the label after it's release knew the guys had created a masterpiece, and made their money back 10 fold.
Looking back, what an achievement. One of the greatest records of all time.
A milestone in POP record production, and songwriting.


As for Curt and the band.
We had a blast, as we spent a few weeks together over the course of about 2 months.
He was one of the nicest people I ever met in this business, as was the band
What a great experience, one I will not soon forget!

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Old 4 weeks ago
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Great stories Paul, thanks for sharing.

I wonder how much Roland's perfectionism contributed to the overall quality of the music.

Speaking of which, Richard Lush described Paul McCartney as a perfectionist:


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Old 4 weeks ago
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I distinctly remember reading an article in Mix magazine or Keyboard about TfF tracking in their apartment to tape. They had cables running throughout the apartment to the machine. I couldn’t believe the sound they got on the drums from an apartment recording. I think this was for the Songs from the big chair album but I could be mistaken.

I heard them do Billie Jean love and it was phenomenal. Roland Orzabal is a character I hear but a creative guitarist, song writer and quite a singer, too.
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Clearmountain mixed not only "Woman in Chains" but also "Year of the Knife" from STSOL (apart from the bridge). Ridiculously good mix.
My favourite song on the album, Year of the Knife. Just sensational work.. the guitar work in particularly.
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My favourite song on the album, Year of the Knife. Just sensational work.. the guitar work in particularly.
Yes! And the drums too. Simon Phillips. Stellar.
Old 4 weeks ago
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"What you going to choose the poison or the knife?"

Old 3 weeks ago
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I distinctly remember reading an article in Mix magazine or Keyboard about TfF tracking in their apartment to tape. They had cables running throughout the apartment to the machine. I couldn’t believe the sound they got on the drums from an apartment recording. I think this was for the Songs from the big chair album but I could be mistaken.
Would have been a drum machine me thinks - any live drums on that album??
Old 3 weeks ago
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Would have been a drum machine me thinks - any live drums on that album??
Tons of programed drums. But there is live drumming too. The huge sound often is something like the AMS RMX reverb
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