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Old 11th May 2016
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What Microphone on the piano

Identify the mic on the piano. Not a bad sound but a mono piano recording with the mic that close to the hammers?

Old 11th May 2016
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Identify the mic on the piano. Not a bad sound but a mono piano recording with the mic that close to the hammers?

Looks like a u67.

Not possible to know whether it was the only mic (unlikely) or even if they were actually recording (filming may have been done afterwards I guess)
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Looks like a u67.

Not possible to know whether it was the only mic (unlikely) or even if they were actually recording (filming may have been done afterwards I guess)
Thought those things too. But then again, looking at the drummer it seems like he is playing. Kind of hard to fake that and have it look real. It seems like it's not really a contemporaneous recording at times but I think it is. And it also seems like that is the mic on the piano. It would not have been unusual at that time from other images and film I have seen.

Also, it kind of looks like an 87 but I'm not sure when 87s were first made. Have to look that up.
Old 11th May 2016
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There are 67's on the drums, piano (probably not the only mic) and the alto. The alto mic is a little bell-centric for my taste, but even if the engineer set it up for more of a side capture, often the player will blow straight into it no matter what you intended.
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The video says '64 or '66 and I believe the U87 came later, so I'd go with U67. What a great video. I don't think it's staged. The performances look to right.
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The video says '64 or '66 and I believe the U87 came later, so I'd go with U67. What a great video. I don't think it's staged. The performances look to right.
Agreed, the performances do look too right.
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for a youtube video of this vintage the drums sound great. Also there is no way the drummer is stick syncing in this video.
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for a youtube video of this vintage the drums sound great. Also there is no way the drummer is stick syncing in this video.
Agreed. Joe Morello is playing what we're hearing. Watch the piano hammers as well. This is a filmed performance. And I think one mic on the piano is possible...
Old 12th May 2016
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Remember, television in 1964 was only mono, so there's no reason to mic the piano in stereo. I'm shocked that a TV studio outside of West Germany had Neumann U-67 mics in that era. Note how the musicians are super close to each other. That's a fab mix for a TV show!
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That's real, it was a big deal to my parents back then. Would hear that a lot growing up.

U67 is the mic. Close mic's give it an intimate feel. I'm always on the look out for a mic or pre amp that makes things sound closer.

As far as the musicians being close, that's the right way to get things done fast. Levels should be low enough to talk.
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That's a 67 and it is live. It is too hard to fake it on the piano as a video tracking to music. Every note is 'dead on' to the video. Gotta be live.

Piano is not an easy instrument to record - quite possibly the most difficult of any instrument. In my opinion, this is not a superlative piano recording - however it is pretty darn good!
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Identify the mic on the piano. Not a bad sound but a mono piano recording with the mic that close to the hammers?
Lucky the piano register for this piece only contains notes right under the mic.
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