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Old 17th May 2015
  #1
Midforward Speakers

Hello.

I have a tendency to like "Mid" too much, so my mixes turn out a bit too mid forward. I really have to force myself taking away mid and going "Yuckkk " everytime i clear it the way it "Should be".

So I was thinking to maybe change my main speakers could help me get where I need to go more easily.

Areas where I allways go too far: 90-130 Hz // 800-1000 Hz // 3000-4000 Hz

My main speakers are the FOCAL SM9. The imaging and clarity are truly amazing but they seem to lack the punch around (90-130Hz) that is really crucial.

I have my dear NS-10´s that I will never ever ever get rid of but I still want a pair of main speakers that delivers a bit more of what I´m missing. I guess I could say I want them to be "Harder" if that makes any sense?

Anyone out there that could recommend a good set of speakers that are Mid forward?

(I dont like: Genelecs, Adams, Krk´s...)

Thank you friends!
//Ted
Old 17th May 2015
  #2
Your issue isounds like is the room not the Focal SM9's. Many who have them do not have a problem with those certain freq's. How much acoustic treatment do you have in your studio?
Old 17th May 2015
  #3
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Originally Posted by Glenn Bucci View Post
Your issue isounds like is the room not the Focal SM9's. Many who have them do not have a problem with those certain freq's. How much acoustic treatment do you have in your studio?
Our studio rooms were professionally built in the 90´s and and are treated good.
However there is a cancellation at 120Hz and another one further up that I cant remember and the room overall is very dry. So youre absolutely right and I have that in my calculations.

But I started thinking about it when I worked with a friends SM9´s in another studio and experienced the same feeling.

Have you worked with the SM9´s?

Thanks
Old 17th May 2015
  #4
I had a similar problem and after shooting out a bunch of monitors ended up with PSI A17 but as stated above, worth shooting your room and playing with placement first to make sure it isn't a problem you can't actually do anything about
Old 17th May 2015
  #5
Every monitor will have different dips and boosts in a particular room. I have used the SM9 in a well treated room and was blown away from them. Did not hear the issues you had.

I am sure you know this but just moving your monitors a couple of inches can make a big difference. When I added Yamaha HS5's to my studio I moved my Focal Twins several inches. I found It changed the entire sound of my monitors. I ended up changing the EQ on the Twins with the high and low to more flat settings to get close to the sound I had previously. Not to mention getting out a ruler and verifying both speakers had the same height and distance from the back wall.
Old 20th May 2015
  #6
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Check the amphions , some people (me included) find them very ns10 friendly but still well balanced and a pretty nice bottom end, so Much fun to work with !!
Old 20th May 2015
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I second the PSI Audio A17M recommendation, not necessarily mid-forward but very linear in the mids without any scoops or peaks.

War
Old 20th May 2015
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I suggest you to try Genelecs 8351. Very forward but natural and clear midrange. Actually the best midrange I have ever experienced and I am a sucker for midrange as I mainly do rock/pop rock live music with loads of guitars and live drums. IMHO light years better than anything Focal I have heard. With many other speakers I was pushing my midrange (ATC, Neumann, Klein Hummel, Focals). With coaxial Genelecs 8260 and 8351 I don't do this and they immediately let me know if I want to go too far with midrange.
Old 20th May 2015
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Originally Posted by Ted Krotkiewski View Post
Hello.

I have my dear NS-10´s that I will never ever ever get rid of but I still want a pair of main speakers that delivers a bit more of what I´m missing. I guess I could say I want them to be "Harder" if that makes any sense?

Anyone out there that could recommend a good set of speakers that are Mid forward?
//Ted
I know exactly what you mean. I'm one of the minority of people who actually enjoys the sound of NS10s when paired with a Bryston / good amp!

I recommend you listen to a pair of ATC SCM100 (I'm sure other ATC also have great mids...).

The ATC is the best monitor speaker I've heard on balance, and has amazing mids. I also have barefoots (scooped a little like SM9, but not as much IMO) and the ATCs are in another league.
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