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Akg C451 EB w/CK1 vs KM84 for Ac Gtr Dual-Channel Preamps
Old 12th May 2015
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Akg C451 EB w/CK1 vs KM84 for Ac Gtr

So I have both and used on similar parts (rhythm) and I love the tone of the 451 over the 84, though the 84 seemed fatter, the 451 came across sweeter. Anyone experienced this?
Old 12th May 2015
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So I have both and used on similar parts (rhythm) and I love the tone of the 451 over the 84, though the 84 seemed fatter, the 451 came across sweeter. Anyone experienced this?
My experiences with a 451 vs 84 has always been that the 84 was always darker. Both are excellent choices for acoustic guitars. If it works, it works. Your ear likes the 451 better. Nothing out of the ordinary here.
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I'm a big fan of the vintage 451, and have found they seem to change their tonality quite a bit depending on the preamp, more so than a KM84. 1073 and TG2 sound amazing with the 451. Also several vintage USA preamps like Langevin AM-16 and Flickinger, that had lower mic input impedance than now, sound fantastic with the 451.
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Great info Cathedral. The chain was really a Focusrite ISa430 as its fairly transparent but I'll try with some other preamps I have such as 1084/v76/v72 as well as my RCA console which is discreet 1967. Excited!
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I have several vintage 451's.
The biggest issue is the condition of their capsule element diaphragms.
They have a tendency to either seperate or tear around the perimeter.

I have seen 451's with both silver and gold coloured diaphragms.

I doubt if any two vintage 451's sound remotely alike unless they recently had new capsule elements fitted.

I tend to prefer a KM84 for acoustics as it sounds more natural to my ears and will take some high end EQ if required without getting too edgy.
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