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Doubled loudness tinnitus & 10dB hearing loss in just 4 months
Old 20th April 2017
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Doubled loudness tinnitus & 10dB hearing loss in just 4 months

Hello guys.

I'm a working audio engineer and I just started for 2 years. I normally monitor my mixes at around 60-70dBa. I never go to concerts, but I do go to cinemas, with my earplugs inserted.

I have had tinnitus and 10dB of hearing loss for years. Was fine until this year, things getting worse real quick. Recently I went to my doctor and performed an audiogram test due to unbearable tinnitus in both ears. The test showed that my hearing loss was at 30dB, that's 10dB more since I last checked 4 months earlier. The tinnitus is also more than twice as loud. I can now easily hear it during daytime (40-50dB background noise). Mainly high pitched ringing, sounds like 4k-12k. I'm 22 this year.

Do you guys have this same problem? Is this normal and will it get worse over time? I know this is probably uncurable. Don't wanna lose my job

Edit 1: Now I can hear low-mid roar in both ears. My doctor could not find out the cause.

Edit 2: Now I have shaking vision in both eyes. I'm planning to go to the best hospital in the country to have my brain checked.
Old 20th April 2017
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A lot of health issues like this are inflammation related. I'm guessing there is a bigger picture here. An occipational hazard of being an audio engineer tends to be obesitity - lack of sleep - poor food choices - lack of Vitamin D .... generally a lack of money, which tends to mean poor nutrition ...

If you haven't done so already - start to explore the benefitis of super nutrition, good sleep, stop poisoning yourself ... it's a path you have to study to find what YOUR body needs ...
Old 20th April 2017
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A lot of health issues like this are inflammation related. I'm guessing there is a bigger picture here. An occipational hazard of being an audio engineer tends to be obesitity - lack of sleep - poor food choices - lack of Vitamin D .... generally a lack of money, which tends to mean poor nutrition ...

If you haven't done so already - start to explore the benefitis of super nutrition, good sleep, stop poisoning yourself ... it's a path you have to study to find what YOUR body needs ...
Great tips! Didn't think of that. Will definitely try these out. Thanks!
Old 27th April 2017
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I have tinnitus caused by cervical spine C1 disc problems.I am young too and I too didnt get the tinnitus from loud sound ear damage.
Old 30th April 2017
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I have tinnitus caused by cervical spine C1 disc problems.I am young too and I too didnt get the tinnitus from loud sound ear damage.
Looks like I better do a full body check. Thanks man.
Old 30th April 2017
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A lot of health issues like this are inflammation related. I'm guessing there is a bigger picture here. An occipational hazard of being an audio engineer tends to be obesitity - lack of sleep - poor food choices - lack of Vitamin D .... generally a lack of money, which tends to mean poor nutrition ...

If you haven't done so already - start to explore the benefitis of super nutrition, good sleep, stop poisoning yourself ... it's a path you have to study to find what YOUR body needs ...
^ Yep.

re: inflammation. Cut out the wheat. Bread, pasta, cakes, etc.
Old 2nd May 2017
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^ Yep.

re: inflammation. Cut out the wheat. Bread, pasta, cakes, etc.
Gluten?
Old 2nd May 2017
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Old 2nd May 2017
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Hey guys, thanks for the tips. But I rarely include gluten in my diet if at all. I'll investigate further.
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Hey guys, thanks for the tips. But I rarely include gluten in my diet if at all. I'll investigate further.
Gluten does not cause inflammation unless you are celiac. We need to put this anti-gluten stupidity to bed. It's a good protein source and far preferable to animal protein in terms of inflammation.

Be careful trying to combat inflammation with meds as well. It's best to reduce your cortisol naturally.
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get a power blender and use it for fruit drinks and even vegetable drinks and as a soup maker. you can experiment with foods and also add vitamins. even if it doesn't work, you'll have covered some ground and had a good time doing it. it's not as if that one could loose either way.
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Anxiety issues, welcome to the arts.
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Gluten does not cause inflammation unless you are celiac.

Yes it does. Even in people without celiac disease. Ever hear of NCGS? Start there.

It is NOT a good source of protein - I refuse to understand why people still believe that.

What we really need to do is get off of this gluten-free foods are often nutrient-deficient stupidity. Really? Is my wild rice nutrient-deficient? Is my broccoli nutrient-deficient? My carrots? I suppose if I eat a gluten-free dinner, which is a piece of salmon and a salad consisting of lettuce, spinach, kale, dandelion greens, red cabbage and alfalfa sprouts - I am eating a nutrient-deficient meal?

Gluten is unnecessary and bad for you. Specifically wheat. Do I need to get into why, and how the wheat we eat today is not the same as earlier generations? Get off of the gluten, and you will be healthier. It is not necessary from a nutrient and protein perspective; there are plenty of non-inflammatory foods that are better nutrition and protein sources.

Cheers.
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Gluten does not cause inflammation unless you are celiac. We need to put this anti-gluten stupidity to bed. It's a good protein source and far preferable to animal protein in terms of inflammation.

Be careful trying to combat inflammation with meds as well. It's best to reduce your cortisol naturally.
Thanks. I've been seeing doctors for months and they still couldn't find the cause. And my T is getting worse. Now I can hear low-mid roar.
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Where exactly did I say your diet is nutrient-deficient?

There is so much misinformation about dietary trends. People feel subjectively better when they don't do X, so they become religiously convinced that no one should do X.
But sometimes X includes Z, something you're. It taking into account. In the case of NGCS, that something is short chain carbs that some find difficult to digest.
Non-Celiac Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist | RealClearScience

But you do what makes you feel better.


In any case, OP is not suffering from bloating and gas. The likelihood that sudden onset tinnitus is caused by gluten is basically zero.

OP, my sympathies for your issue.
Have you gone through all the major causes (other than aging and sound-related damage)?

Over 200 drugs can cause tinnitus. Aspirin is a common culprit.

Issues with your jaw can be a cause.

How is your blood pressure? You can get a blood pressure cuff cheaply, and can test it at different times of day. High blood pressure is a common cause.

Do you drink? Alcohol damages every cell in the body, including the ones in your ears.

Have you been to a neurologist?

Anyway, just some thoughts. I wish you good luck.


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Yes it does. Even in people without celiac disease. Ever hear of NCGS? Start there.

It is NOT a good source of protein - I refuse to understand why people still believe that.

What we really need to do is get off of this gluten-free foods are often nutrient-deficient stupidity. Really? Is my wild rice nutrient-deficient? Is my broccoli nutrient-deficient? My carrots? I suppose if I eat a gluten-free dinner, which is a piece of salmon and a salad consisting of lettuce, spinach, kale, dandelion greens, red cabbage and alfalfa sprouts - I am eating a nutrient-deficient meal?

Gluten is unnecessary and bad for you. Specifically wheat. Do I need to get into why, and how the wheat we eat today is not the same as earlier generations? Get off of the gluten, and you will be healthier. It is not necessary from a nutrient and protein perspective; there are plenty of non-inflammatory foods that are better nutrition and protein sources.

Cheers.
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Hello guys.

I'm a working audio engineer and I just started for 2 years. I normally monitor my mixes at around 60-70dBa. I never go to concerts, but I do go to cinemas, with my earplugs inserted.

I have had tinnitus and 10dB of hearing loss for years. Was fine until this year, things getting worse real quick. Recently I went to my doctor and performed an audiogram test due to unbearable tinnitus in both ears. The test showed that my hearing loss was at 30dB, that's 10dB more since I last checked 4 months earlier. The tinnitus is also more than twice as loud. I can now easily hear it during daytime (40-50dB background noise). Mainly high pitched ringing, sounds like 4k-12k. I'm 22 this year.

Do you guys have this same problem? Is this normal and will it get worse over time? I know this is probably uncurable. Don't wanna lose my job
Are you enjoying the music you're being exposed to?
Old 6 days ago
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You are in your twenties, don't listen at loud levels while engineering, wear earplugs to loud venues, but you have a 10 db hearing loss over four months? Apart from your tinnitus, a quick 10 db hearing loss for a person in their 20s is a serious, serious matter. It might be understandable if you had been operating a jackhammer without hearing protection for the same amount of time. That is a drop in hearing acuity that is orders of magnitude, since db is not a linear scale but a logarithmic scale. If audio is your primary moneymaking occupation, it is that much more of a crisis. You need to get back to your doctor and get a referral to someone very good in the specialty of hearing loss.
The advice so far is very well meant and may contain a remedy, but your symptoms are so dramatic and serious that you should get the best quality of professional diagnosis you can get.
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Are you enjoying the music you're being exposed to?
I think 50:50.
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You are in your twenties, don't listen at loud levels while engineering, wear earplugs to loud venues, but you have a 10 db hearing loss over four months? Apart from your tinnitus, a quick 10 db hearing loss for a person in their 20s is a serious, serious matter. It might be understandable if you had been operating a jackhammer without hearing protection for the same amount of time. That is a drop in hearing acuity that is orders of magnitude, since db is not a linear scale but a logarithmic scale. If audio is your primary moneymaking occupation, it is that much more of a crisis. You need to get back to your doctor and get a referral to someone very good in the specialty of hearing loss.
The advice so far is very well meant and may contain a remedy, but your symptoms are so dramatic and serious that you should get the best quality of professional diagnosis you can get.
I'm planning to go to the best hospital in my country next month. Thank you for the info bro.
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I think 50:50.
Personally, I would try to listen to sounds you don't like as quiet as possible!
Old 5 days ago
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Personally, I would try to listen to sounds you don't like as quiet as possible!
Great point. I always take my earplugs with me.
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