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Old 14th July 2010
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Had some after a series of concert (involving helmet.... bastards)

took me some time to play drums again, but now it's gone. even when i think about it, i can't hear them. good luck to you!!!
Old 3rd August 2010
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Recently I've just come into the world of tinnitus!


Bizarrely, it started after what seemed to be a minor infection! although I've had a few before.. They always say the best way is to just avoid listening to it but man that's so hard! .

I've had mine roughly for about a month now, sometimes it completely quietens like its not there and the ringing turns into a faint hiss.. then other times [for example when I put in some prescribed drops] or exposure to daily noise, it'll flare up again... The fact it's going quiet at times often now I guess is a good sign. I'm hoping it goes once any infection left over clears!.


Apparently Danny Elfman suffers from Tinnitus and he's still writing so there's a success story right there =)..

My Career has only just taken off lol great timing.. Not going to let it stop me though!.


So glad I found this thread... It's nice to know you're not the only one, although in the music world I wouldn't be surprised if like 80% of professionals had hearing trouble of some sort!.

Naturally its scary because our ears are our the source of our powers!

I wouldn't let it stop you, just try not to focus on it. Of course be cautious of volumes etc.


Good luck everyone!
Old 3rd August 2010
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The title may sound like a contradiction, but tinnitus and hearing problems pop up on the board once in a while. Most of the times these threads become negative and demoralizing.

It would be interesting to take a more positive approach to this.

Anyone out there who has overcome tinnitus and other hearing problems?
Any famous engineers who still manage well in spite of hearing problems?

As for myself, I got tinnitus in September and had a hard time dealing with it for a long time. However, I'm A LOT better now. The tinnitus has become lower, and what's left of it doesn't bother me.

Let's make this a positive and encouraging thread! I'm pretty sure there are people out there who need it.
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Recently I've just come into the world of tinnitus!


Bizarrely, it started after what seemed to be a minor infection! although I've had a few before.. They always say the best way is to just avoid listening to it but man that's so hard! .

I've had mine roughly for about a month now, sometimes it completely quietens like its not there and the ringing turns into a faint hiss.. then other times [for example when I put in some prescribed drops] or exposure to daily noise, it'll flare up again... The fact it's going quiet at times often now I guess is a good sign. I'm hoping it goes once any infection left over clears!.


Apparently Danny Elfman suffers from Tinnitus and he's still writing so there's a success story right there =)..

My Career has just taken off lol great timing, but I'm still working.. Not going to let it stop me neither!.


So glad I found this thread... It's nice to know you're not the only one, although in the music world I wouldn't be surprised if like 80% of professionals had hearing trouble of some sort!.

Naturally, its VERY scary because our ears are the source of our powers!

I wouldn't let it stop you, just try not to focus on it. Of course be cautious of volumes etc.


Good luck everyone!
Old 3rd August 2010
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I've been having a problem with my right ear that concerns me. Seems to be to do with pressure, its almost like it never quite feels like its fully popped. You know when going up in plane you feel the pressure build and you have to 'pop' them to relieve the pressure. The left one is always fine but the right always feels like there's juuust a little bit of stuck pressure, which also seems to affect my ability to hear the highest frequencies on that side :/

I do have ringing from younger years of clubbing, but there is some lower freq ringing on the right side which comes n goes and i suspect more related to this specific problem.

Sometimes I can even feel air rushing through it as I breathe, which kinda sounds like a tiny hole thats never fully hearling properly or just a weak eardrum. Hmmm, perhaps its time to see a specialist....
Old 3rd August 2010
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I pull the old the phase reverse on my tinnitus.


I have had it forever, as long as I can remember. some days its bad some days I don't notice it. I mix lots of music for people and its never affected my mix judgment.

One day I got really pissed that I even had this annoying affliction......So armed with audio knowledge and a Pro Tools LE rig. I put on the best pair of headphones I could find.....I fired up Pro Tools, and inserted a signal generator on the track. I left it on sine wave, and started cracking up the frequency until it matched the tone in my ear.

The I hit the phase flip button. Guess what.......GONE......... I do this every few month for about 15 mins and the perceived tinnitus goes away. But it always comes back.


Just thought if anyone wants to try it.....works for me..... thumbsup
Old 3rd August 2010
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I was convinced I'd destroyed my hearing through playing loud rock and roll guitar. Then I found out my father has it too. So I ignored it and it eventually went away. Either that or I lost the ability to hear it due to playing loud rock and roll guitar.

-Kirk
Old 3rd August 2010
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Originally Posted by Michael Loomis View Post
If its any consolation, I'm 58 and have had tinnitus since my 20's. A lifetime of loud music no doubt caused my condition, but I'm certainly still able to function as a musician and engineer with the ringing being present. So there is definitely no need to despair. It seems that everyone responds differently to the various proposed treatments but, as mentioned, I get best results by just not focusing on it. Let it be.

Cheers,

Michael
That's my situation exactly. And my clients often praise my "golden ears"! So yes, a lot of great work gets done by guys with less than perfect ears. Hearing occurs in the brain ultimately, and the mind interprets that.
Some things that help attenuate it for me: no cigarettes, yoga, especially headstands and other inverted positions, ginko (but gives me headaches unless I take the time-release kind), grapeseed extract (this may be placebo effect). I am curious now to try magnesium.
I do eat dark chocolate, drink green tea, and the occasional red wine.
Thanks again for a great thread.
Old 3rd August 2010
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The "not focusing on it" doesn't really work for me.

try this.

Don't think about gorillas.


what are you thinking about?

Gorillas right?

Just talking about it makes it worse for me.
Old 3rd August 2010
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I had it as well for several weeks. At first I thought it would stay like this until I changed my mind and used positive affirmations. It completely went away after three weeks.

I would search for a good hypnotherapist and talk to him about the problem if it's not going away after some time. They can tell your subconscious mind to simply turn it off while you're in trance, so you don't hear it anymore. A good Hypnotherapist will only need one session.

PS: Hypnosis is not some kind of entertainment, like you have probably seen it in the tv. It's a serious tool to reprogram your subconscious mind which controls all of your body functions and your behaviour.
Old 3rd August 2010
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Sounds like a Eustachian tube problem. Go see an ENT. That's something that can usually be solved.

Good luck.

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I've been having a problem with my right ear that concerns me. Seems to be to do with pressure, its almost like it never quite feels like its fully popped. You know when going up in plane you feel the pressure build and you have to 'pop' them to relieve the pressure. The left one is always fine but the right always feels like there's juuust a little bit of stuck pressure, which also seems to affect my ability to hear the highest frequencies on that side :/

I do have ringing from younger years of clubbing, but there is some lower freq ringing on the right side which comes n goes and i suspect more related to this specific problem.

Sometimes I can even feel air rushing through it as I breathe, which kinda sounds like a tiny hole thats never fully hearling properly or just a weak eardrum. Hmmm, perhaps its time to see a specialist....
Old 3rd August 2010
  #101
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Mine started last October, correlated with hearing loss of low frequencies in my left ear. Diagnosed with Cochlear Hydrops, which is a fluid build up in the cochlea--but docs can't see into the cochlea so at the end of the day, it's just a hypothesis. For a few months, the tinnitus was so bad at times I couldn't sleep at night--kind of like a hairdryer combined with a squealing pig.

I started taking lemon bioflavinoids a month or two ago and, although it may be a correlation, my tinnitus is low now. Unless I'm in a quiet room, I don't hear it. I've still got residual hearing loss in my left ear, but my right ear and brain seem to fill in the gaps. Feeling a lot more positive than I have for ages.
Old 3rd August 2010
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I've been having a problem with my right ear that concerns me. Seems to be to do with pressure, its almost like it never quite feels like its fully popped. You know when going up in plane you feel the pressure build and you have to 'pop' them to relieve the pressure. The left one is always fine but the right always feels like there's juuust a little bit of stuck pressure, which also seems to affect my ability to hear the highest frequencies on that side :/

I do have ringing from younger years of clubbing, but there is some lower freq ringing on the right side which comes n goes and i suspect more related to this specific problem.

Sometimes I can even feel air rushing through it as I breathe, which kinda sounds like a tiny hole thats never fully hearling properly or just a weak eardrum. Hmmm, perhaps its time to see a specialist....
I agree with Razorfish--this sound like a Eustachian tube thing. You should get yourself to an ENT. It might even be a perforated eardrum, though it sounds like Eustachian problems to me.

I've had Eustachian problems all my life. Genetics dealt me a hand with constricted Eustachian tubes. Additionally, my left side has a wicked turn in the ear canal, which further impedes that ear's ability to "pop." Flying is generally hell, though bigger planes are better, and I also have a few tricks up my sleeve. Nevertheless, I've nearly passed out on airplanes several times due to the pain when landing.

Had to have tubes 3 different times as a kid due to ruptured eardrums from collected fluid. My eardrums are pretty scarred up. It usually freaks out an ENT if it's the first time I've seen him/her. They look in my ears and say, "whoa!" I say, "there's nothing to be alarmed about, doctor."

Anyways, I feel very, very grateful that I don't have to suffer with what most people on this thread suffer with. At least not yet. Hopefully, I won't ever have to.

But you should go to an ENT and get looked at, Arksun.
Old 4th August 2010
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I have a variation of Meniere's disease which causes intermittent low frequency roaring. Fortunately, my hearing has always come back. I have been on daily diuretics since 26 y.o. for it. I'm now 52. Steroids worked well for me for acute episodes, but I was on them daily for almost a year. After many tests, I had a 'delayed sensitivity' allergy test (different than usual allergy testing). I reacted to two different foods. Once banished from my diet, no steroids in the past two years. I also have some high pitch sounds and use a sound machine at night, custom earplugs at movies and concerts. Nothing I can't work around. Typical hearing tests are from 200Hz to 8000 Hz, and I test very well on these, in spite of the internal head noise.
House Ear Clinic in Los Angeles has excellent information on tinnitis. They are doing exciting research.

Tom
Old 4th August 2010
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I lost all my hearing in my left ear when I was around 2 years old to nerve damage from Rubella (German measles). So what is the only thing I ever really loved to do? Play, write, sing, and produce music. Took care of my one good one through my loud rock gigs through my 20's, 30's, and early 40's. Now, just short of 60 I've suffered from loud tinnitus in my good ear for the last several years. I even take a small dose of lorazepam every night just to relax so I can nod off to sleep. Got one of those white noise and cricket machines the lullibies me to sleep. But for the most part, I just accept it's there. Keeping busy and focused on other things...like music...keeps my mind off of it.

But screw it. Nothing it gonna stop me from doing what I love. I can live with this ringing in my head. Take the music away and I'm dead. Attitude is everything.

DB
Old 4th August 2010
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I pull the old the phase reverse on my tinnitus.


I have had it forever, as long as I can remember. some days its bad some days I don't notice it. I mix lots of music for people and its never affected my mix judgment.

One day I got really pissed that I even had this annoying affliction......So armed with audio knowledge and a Pro Tools LE rig. I put on the best pair of headphones I could find.....I fired up Pro Tools, and inserted a signal generator on the track. I left it on sine wave, and started cracking up the frequency until it matched the tone in my ear.

The I hit the phase flip button. Guess what.......GONE......... I do this every few month for about 15 mins and the perceived tinnitus goes away. But it always comes back.


Just thought if anyone wants to try it.....works for me..... thumbsup
I always thought this kind of awareness through phase cancelation relationships would be the possible correlation to some sort of remidy or even a cure...........you may be on to something!
Old 4th August 2010
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I always thought this kind of awareness through phase cancelation relationships would be the possible correlation to some sort of remidy or even a cure...........you may be on to something!
tinnitus is often many frequencies that can even oscillate randomly (mine does this). That's why this phase thing would be tough to implement if not impossible but TRT uses a similar concept in that it plays a broadband across the spectrum in you ear and overtime in somehow tricks
the brain into ignoring or 're-training' the brain so the tinnitus is not so bothersome.
Old 4th August 2010
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I'm currently undergoing expensive Tinnitus Retraining Therapy, and I would love to share some of what I am learning.

The FIRST thing my doctor -- a world-renowned hyperacusis / tinnitus specialist who has published extensively on the subject and helped hundreds of patients -- told me to was to stop "monitoring" my tinnitus. I.e., seeing if it was there or not.

It's monitoring -- and giving "energy" -- to tinnitus that actually perpetuates the symptoms. Stress and attention to the phenomenon actually reinforces the warped neurophysiology of the ear that's _causing_ the tinnitus.

Tinnitus is a complicated phenomenon, as it involves psychology as well as neurophysiology. A number of factors have to come together, from stress to ear irritation, to cause it.

I encourage everyone to Google and read the article "Tinnitus Retraining Therapy From The Jastreboff Model" by Jonathan Hazell, which my doctor has asked me to read 3 times. If you can find it online, it's only a 5 page article. Try to find a qualified audiologist who can help you, but you can actually do quite a lot on your own.

Just remember: The bigger of a deal you make it, the bigger deal it will be. Not just psychologically, but in terms of actual neurophysiology. But of course it's easy to _say_ that; with a little professional guidance or diligence many patients have recovered.

In short, when you stop "scanning" for it -- by putting it out of your mind -- eventually (not immediately, but over months) your body will stop looking for it, too. And the ear will actually rewire itself to ignore it, either wholly or partially.

(Obviously, in the absence of sound exposure or stress, the first step is to see an ENT to be certain there are no other physiological causes.)

(p.s. Please note this will be my last "word" on the subject; part of therapy is to not think, write or talk about it! But I just had to share, because I know how important a subject this is.)
This is exactly right...I think we went to the same audiologist. I couldn't afford the TRT because it is so costly..but I did read that same book, and
I have applied exactly what your audiologist told you.

The audiologist I saw also told me to stop being afraid that my tinnitus
would kill me, or that it would just continue to increase until all I would hear is the whine. The other thing he recommended was that I see an otologist to get the impacted wax removed from my ears, because my hearing tests showed a complete brickwall drop-off at 6khz. I went to
the otologist, he removed the wax, and literally it was like I had taken earplugs out for the first time in 10 years.

Following that visit I just had to check a lot of mixes i had done over the
last few years...all of them had piles of sizzle on them, because obviously I was trying to add what I couldn't hear. But beyond that, I noticed that
my frequency sensitivity wasn't so skewed towards 4 to 6khz anymore,
and I could deal with those frequencies a lot better.

Having done some additional research on the subject, I'm finding more and more that while the initial cause of tinnitus can be an external event
or accumulated (as in LOUD) events, it can't be "cured" externally because
the source of it is not in the structure of the ear - it's "between the ears",
in the brain.
Old 13th August 2010
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Sounds like a Eustachian tube problem. Go see an ENT. That's something that can usually be solved.

Good luck.
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I agree with Razorfish--this sound like a Eustachian tube thing. You should get yourself to an ENT. It might even be a perforated eardrum, though it sounds like Eustachian problems to me.

....

But you should go to an ENT and get looked at, Arksun.
Thanks guys, just an update. Things got worse when I seemed to develop an infection a week back. At least I think it was an infection, in the bad right ear. Started hurting a lot, came to a head when I had the air rushing sensation really REALLY bad in my ear and it suddenly became hyper sensitive to any impact noise. Not just the usual culprits (metal pans, glass against glass etc), even the sound of me typing lightly on my keyboard generated a huge physical thump sensation in the ear!

So I went to see my GP, she had a good look inside the ear and I was fully expecting her to say yup looks like an infection. It hurt when she put that Ear Scope in there.

Oddly enough however, she said she couldn't see any signs of infection at all, eardrum looked fine, no signs of wax either. At which point I got more worried!.

Anyways, she thankfully decided to refer me to an ENT. But the bad news, the earliest they can see me is 7 weeks time!. Yes, hello and welcome to the UK's NHS system

So my appointment is on the 21 september and I'm gonna try to be as precise as I can with every single symptom to them so they can get to the bottom of it, but my instinct does tell me its a Eustachian tube problem too, either caused by my sinuses and/or something to do with my jaw or wisdom teeth.

I have had the odd rare occassion when I've gone to yawn and, as i went to close my mouth again it kinda went a little crunch on the right side right at the pivot point of the jawbone just below the ear and for a couple minutes after I would hear this horrible crunchy sound, almost like there were tiny cartilege splinters or something. I dunno, but perhaps its slightly out of alignment.

Either way, I'm not really sure what they can do to help an Eustachian tube problem, can they do anything?.

Since the recent infection the ringing in the right ear has increased quite a lot which is extremely distracting in a quiet room and at night trying to sleep. As it seems to go up and down I am hoping this is not a permanent increase, as this increase doesn't seem to be high sound pressure related this time.

In the meantime I've been using Sterimar, a drug-free saline solution based nasal spray to try and help out, but its effects so far seem to be fairly limited. The pain from the infection has now gone but its taking a lot longer for the ear to rebalance and become less sensitive. Still listening to music/tv etc at low volumes as it has that horrible thump-in-the-ear effect, but it is slowly easing.

Anyways, wish me luck. Wish I could have got that ENT appointment sooner, would love to be able to afford a closer private appointment. Hopefully they'll finally shed some light on the underlying problem and maybe find a solution.

Sorry this isn't a success story and just a rambling, hopefully it will become a success story anyways
Old 13th August 2010
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It may be only me, but if notice I'm having noticeable tinnitus (which can happen this time of year because noise from a window fan provokes it -- but happens often enough, anyhow), I've found -- to my initial amazement -- that I can get a fair amount of (temporary) relief by using my fingers to 'close' my ears (folding the fleshy tab over the ear canal opening) and holding them closed for a while (obviously, the tinnitus and other naturally occuring sounds like blood rushing through the tympanic membrane will seem much louder, because 'outside' noise is now so much less), and then slowly opening them. I actually will open them varying, tiny amounts as it's almost like there is a resonance going on. Certainly, there seems to be a feedback-like component to the phenom. (I read some 'discovery' about the feedback angle in some newspaper write up a while back but haven't pursued the actual science.)

Anyhow, it's no cure but it can provide a break in what, for me, is sometimes a ramping up of tinnitus.

Also, while it may be obvious, it's worth saying, try to remove yourself from noisy environments, particularly those with background high/mixed frequencies that may be louder than they seem like fans, ACs, etc.


I keep mentioning this and no one has ever commented on it -- so I assume people either think it's so crazy that they don't try it, or that perhaps it doesn't offer any relief to them if they do. But for me it works.

(I also always offer the minimal first aid advice for someone who is, themselves, borderline choking on unswallowed water ['went down the wrong way'] or other non-immediately life threatening choking: raise your arms over your head. This seems to often change the configuration of the throat enough to easy the choking and allow you to swallow. Obviously, if you're turning purple, it's time for the Heimlich maneuver. [I'm told it's possible to give oneself the Heimlich by pushing one's thorax against something like the top of a chair or couch, etc, but I haven't had to try that one, thankfully. I have done the Heimlich on someone and it does work.] The raise your arms thing I got from Dear Abby. Also a teaspoon of sugar for hiccups, which I'd never heard until I was an adult [oddly, I think] but which, for me, works pretty well.)


OK... I'll take my Farmer's Almanac style cures and wander off into the sunset now... heh
Old 13th August 2010
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I've been having a problem with my right ear that concerns me. Seems to be to do with pressure, its almost like it never quite feels like its fully popped. You know when going up in plane you feel the pressure build and you have to 'pop' them to relieve the pressure. The left one is always fine but the right always feels like there's juuust a little bit of stuck pressure, which also seems to affect my ability to hear the highest frequencies on that side :/

I do have ringing from younger years of clubbing, but there is some lower freq ringing on the right side which comes n goes and i suspect more related to this specific problem.

Sometimes I can even feel air rushing through it as I breathe, which kinda sounds like a tiny hole thats never fully hearling properly or just a weak eardrum. Hmmm, perhaps its time to see a specialist....
That's eustachian tube dysfunction. When it sounds 'stuck' like you can't clear it, it's because the tube is collapsed shut when it should be open. When it sounds like it's rushing air, it's because the tube is staying open when it should be closing.

There's not really much you can usually do about it, but I'd go see an audiologist in case. You never know. There could be something special causing it or something else altogether.

http://www.dizziness-and-balance.com...ysfunction.htm
Old 13th August 2010
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So sorry to hear that. It's a really scary ordeal. I've had one hell of a time on the NHS. Actually was told by my last consultant that she thought I might know more about my condition than her. Flattering, but pretty deflating at the same time. The waiting around bit is the worst. But, there is a chance that you will get better on your own.

Unless you are desperate, I would not get a private consultation. If you do, your GP might consider you to be 'taking care of yourself'. You want to get yourself into the system as soon as possible. You might want to check that there are no emergency consultations that you could access. If you have had any hearing loss this is particularly important, as early diagnosis and treatment with steroids can be helpful in some cases. In the UK, doctors don't seem to react with the necessary urgency with hearing problems. Emphasise that you use your ears for work.

Are you hearing your own heart beat/blood flow etc? That is usually a sign of an open eust-tube. You might want to do a search for Endolymphatic Hydrops and look into that as well.

Unfortunately, there are few people out there, at least in the UK, with a comprehensive understanding of inner ear disorders. I really hope that you have a good experience though--best of luck to you.

Will

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Thanks guys, just an update. Things got worse when I seemed to develop an infection a week back. At least I think it was an infection, in the bad right ear. Started hurting a lot, came to a head when I had the air rushing sensation really REALLY bad in my ear and it suddenly became hyper sensitive to any impact noise. Not just the usual culprits (metal pans, glass against glass etc), even the sound of me typing lightly on my keyboard generated a huge physical thump sensation in the ear!
Old 13th August 2010
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Doesn't sound like we had the same problem, but 2 months worth of COQ-10, twice daily cured mine.
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I'm 56 and have had tinnitus in my left ear 24/7 for the past 6 years.

It all started off as an ear infection which affected both ears in rotation - first the right, then the left, round again & again.

When they finally went away, the tinnitus was there and has been there ever since.

I've learnt to live with it.

I didn't really notice it this morning unitl I started reading this thread.
Old 13th August 2010
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Unless you are desperate, I would not get a private consultation. If you do, your GP might consider you to be 'taking care of yourself'.

Are you hearing your own heart beat/blood flow etc? That is usually a sign of an open eust-tube. You might want to do a search for Endolymphatic Hydrops and look into that as well.
Hmm thats a good point, then I would have no choice but to continue privately only in that case.

When its open I dont really hear my heart beat, but even gentle breathing i feel that hollow rush of air sensation up to the eardrum. If I hold my left nostril down and slowly breath through the right its almost as if I can feel something flap in and out in the ear. Also my voice becomes much much louder and more deep/hollow sounding on the right side when that happens (I guess cause the soundwaves from the layrnx go straight up the throat up the tubes to nose and right through the Eustachian tube?.

In the past the problem has been too much dulling of the top end on that side, which i'm guessing would mean the tube is too closed most of the time or something.

I'll look up the Hydrops. Think its worth me trying steroid based nasal sprays?, ya know like the ones that are used for Allergies like Beconase.
Old 13th August 2010
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The herb "Gingko" has had some success in clinical trials for relieving tinnitus. In other trials they found no benefit. Still it might be worth trying. Not to be taken whilst pregnant. Check with a health professional first.

Matt
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Think its worth me trying steroid based nasal sprays?, ya know like the ones that are used for Allergies like Beconase.
In my case, I wonder if ceasing to use that stuff actually triggered my symptoms in the first place. Could be correlational... but, I'd avoid it, unless you have persistent allergy problems. Once you get on that ****e, it is very hard to stop. Unfortunately, docs seem more interested in finding palliative measures than what causes allergies in the first place.

But hey--I'm only a doctor of philosophy. ; ) So take what I'm saying with a pinch of salt! You could be different. W
Old 27th September 2010
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Tinnitus Retraining Therapy

Anyone had experience with TRT (Tinnitus Retraining Therapy)?

It supposedly isn't a cure but a way of learning to ignore the tinnitus.
Old 27th September 2010
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've found -- to my initial amazement -- that I can get a fair amount of (temporary) relief by using my fingers to 'close' my ears (folding the fleshy tab over the ear canal opening) and holding them closed for a while (obviously, the tinnitus and other naturally occuring sounds like blood rushing through the tympanic membrane will seem much louder, because 'outside' noise is now so much less), and then slowly opening them. I actually will open them varying, tiny amounts as it's almost like there is a resonance going on. Certainly, there seems to be a feedback-like component to the phenom. (I read some 'discovery' about the feedback angle in some newspaper write up a while back but haven't pursued the actual science.)
**** me it works! I agree there must be some sort of feedback component.
Old 13th October 2010
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Posting another update to my personal woes.

I honestly feel like crying right now, I am in hearing hell :(

Read through my earlier posts to get the background story. So I went to see the NHS ENT specialist last month. At that point I didn't really have any of the pain or sensitivity symptoms so was feeling better about things.
anyways they did a hearing test, if you can even call it that.

Just 5 sine test tones between 250hz - 8K and that was it. Given my main problem of rolloff was above 8K on the right side that wasn't very helpful. They considered my hearing 'normal' cause it fell in the 0-20db range of the average persons hearing threshold (though the result wasn't exactly a straight line either).

Anyways the ENT guy was very nice and charming and told me the results seemed ok. I wish, oh HOW I wish i pushed him on the sensitivity point more, i guess i just didn't feel like lying. But basically, because my results were considered normal he wasn't willing to investigate any further.

So I left feeling a bit let down, but otherwise ok. My ear was back to how it was before.

Fast forward to past week. Its got worse.... a lot worse.

Eustachian tube gets stuck open when i get up for the day and stays stuck open, its a real fight to try and get it to close. Tried using the sterimar spray (saline solution), but doesn't really seem to be helping. Every evening I become more and more hyper sensitive to sounds.

Today is by far the worst, I used the spray and it went right up to my eardrum. Blew my nose, now it feels like the whole tube and ear is stinging like crazy inside.

Right now it hurts, and my internal volume control is shot to ****. The slightly sound on my right side creates pain. Just to have someone talking to me, it hurts me ear. Everything feels painfully loud in the right ear and causes it to counter react with a physical jolt.

I am very scared right now and don't know what to do. I mean I know what I am going to do, and thats book another appointment and scream at the doctor that this is very serious now.

God if I could afford private treatment I'd get every scan under the sun done to try and get to the bottom of this. But I can't... so i'm screwed... :(

Having slight frequency rolloff issues on one side is one thing, but when it turns into a painful nightmare. I hope to god this isn't permanent damage going on.
Old 13th October 2010
  #120
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hey Arksun & Slutz,

a simple procedure might help a lot Tympanostomy tube - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
if suffering from symptoms similar to Patulous Eustachian tube - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
or the 'broken speaker'-effect when exposed to certain frequencies that might have something to do with the tiny compressors we have in our ears Tensor tympani muscle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

might be something worth looking into???
the negative side-effect of getting a tympanostomy tube is you might lose, only when the tube is in place, a couple of db that should come back after the treatment is over...
the good thing is that it's a relatively easy procedure and can be reversed if it doesn't seem to work or the symptoms get worse... or so i've been told...

the more obscure techniques involve yoga and such...
and the classics are taking a break from caffeine, getting your shoulders massaged,
sleeping decent amounts, taking care of your teeth and yada yada...

the best of luck to one and all!!!

-U
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