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Old 22nd January 2006
  #31
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Originally Posted by doorknocker
Not true.

Quitting smoking is all about realizing that it's STARTING smoking that causes the withdrawal syndroms and eventually leads you to constantly 'fight' against the syndroms by lighting up again.
The famous 'anti-smoking guru' Allen Carr made a great analogy when he compared it to wearing shoes that are 2 sizes too small only to 'enjoy' the sensation at night of taking them off again. That's exactly the way it happened to me and I'm now in my 6th year off cigarettes- without ANY whithdrawal syndroms or relapses at all.

It took a lot of failed attempts over the years and I can honestly say and confirm that it's all in the mind. All these 'methadone'-like theories with nicotine gum, pills or whatever are plain BS. It's the industry trying to make a buck with your health problems.

The first mistake that most people make (and I made it plenty of times in my early half-serious attempts to quit smoking) is saying 'It's gonna be hard'. You'll immedeately put yourself under stress that way and everything you do will be measured against your 'will to quit'. It can't work that way and if it does works then it's only by force (Carr calls it 'willpower') and there's a high chance that you'll compensate by over-eating or over-drinking. A musician won't have trouble with THAT, as we all now.
Anyway, I do enjoy a drink or two once in a while and it has nothing to do with smoking or not smoking.

Ah, I'm sounding like a preacher and it's Sunday, WTF....

P.S: James, I WILL call you soon. Soryy about not doing it sooner, there was a lot going on here with new projects and stuff.
I didn't say you should quit drinking forever. Just a few months. Even now (after a 1 1/2 years) the only time I want a cig is if I drink....but it gets easier over time. I can now get sloshed and not smoke. But not the case when I first quit. Drinking during the first 3-6 months of quitting will make it harder....those were the hardest times not so smoke for me but whatever works for you.
Old 22nd January 2006
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I was a pack a day smoker for 8 years when I decided to quit, at the same time I also quit drinking. It really was pretty easy to quit after I quit drinking, not so much because the two go hand in hand but because not drinking in college pretty much kept me out of any social situation which I feel is where the cig temptation is the strongest. However quitting those two drove me to weed, now I smoke more weed than I care to admit and just seemingly traded one habit for another. However I can say my house and clothes smell much better. Ever notice how smoking one cig in a non smoking house will linger for about 2 days? At least with weed, after about an hour the smell is gone. Man its been 3 years and just typing this makes me want a cig.
Old 23rd January 2006
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Originally Posted by richmondjames
Ok... on day 3 again now, but about to go to an album launch party (that I played on).
Fully intend not to smoke.... lets see how we do...
Well I rolled one at the launch party, took one drag and put it down and didnt touch it again.
Might be sophistry but I count that as not smoking.

Regardless I am feeling a hell of a lot better today- no cravings and feel like working out.

Andi- cool, no problem- need to talk to you about finding a good but affordable hire rate for a drum kit. Can you help?

James
Old 23rd January 2006
  #34
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be careful, one drag leads to two which makes ''well i handled that ok so i can have a puff here and their'', wrong, two leads to three then bam, you smoking again.
it is good you stopped at one but you should just say no and have none.
keep it up you doing it! thumbsup
Old 23rd January 2006
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Originally Posted by richmondjames
Andi- cool, no problem- need to talk to you about finding a good but affordable hire rate for a drum kit. Can you help?
James
James,

yeah, I do know a few people that might have something that's below the offending rates you normally find here, maybe Germany's an option too if you got a car. Let's see, I'll give you a buzz later in the week.
Old 23rd January 2006
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Thumbs up

I've been able to quit for as long as a year and a half before. The problem is that after that long a time it wasn't cravings that caused the relapse it was just remembering the bad habit when I was around old friends. These relapses lasted anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months. I had another relapse in the beginning of december but have successfully stopped since new years.

If you're just trying to quit now this is the advice I can give you. I have found that the initial craving/withdrawal/compulsion will kick in and subside within 2 weeks. So whenever you have the urge to smoke just tell yourself that you don't want a cigarette and that you have to only last for two weeks. If you can make it through 2 weeks you will be home free. You will still need some will power after that but nothing like when you first start out.

Additionally, try and substitute your smoking habit with working out. If you can, avoid drinking. Also, try to immerse yourself with work and keep your mind occupied. You should tell your family and friends that you are trying to quit smoking and that you are going to keep yourself busy for the next two weeks to distract yourself.

These are all things that have worked for me pretty much every time. I hope it works out for you.
Old 23rd January 2006
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgh!!!!!!
Old 23rd January 2006
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgh!!!!!!
DRINK AS MUCH WATER AS YOU CAN RIGHT NOW!
Old 23rd January 2006
  #39
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then drink more vodka!
sorry i mean water.
Old 23rd January 2006
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Originally Posted by autodidactic
If you can, avoid drinking.
As a musician? Are you kidding?

No, I'm kidding but there's something that comes into play here that we might not want to admit: coolness.

So you quit smoking and you also quit alcohol for the danger of it being an evil path back to your cigarette habit. There's a real danger now that you'll run into a WTF moment and just light up again. Being over-serious isn't bound to last.

And why shouldn't you a drink or two once in a while? Quitting smoking isn't about turning into Mother Theresa, it's just leaving to circle of a unnecessary, boring, mechanical thing i.e lighting up to satisfy your craving that is just there because you entered the circle.

Another thing that helped me: The cravings might be very subtle, even if you manage to quit without 'pain', as I luckily was able to do. It's similar to being 'a bit' hungry and you might actually think it IS hunger for food. Just let it go, it will pass very quickly. Any 'cold turkey' moments will pass very quickly, should there be any.
The cravings can work in a VERY subtle way, just don't give 'them' the pleasure by giving in, it's not worth it.

Just don't light up again. You did enough smoking, you KNOW how it's like so why keep repeating it again and again?

And think of all the gear you'll be able to afford with the money you'll save.....

Kopf hoch, Junge
Old 23rd January 2006
  #41
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Think about the alternative.

Walking around with an oxegyn tank behind you and not being able to breathe for the last 10 years of your life.
Old 23rd January 2006
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It's been about a year and a half since quitting for me. The patch is what finally worked. I think that what got me through the cravings was the fear of what would happen if I smoked with the patch on (i.e. getting sick). I knew that if I wanted a smoke, I'd have to take the patch off and wait a couple of hours. By that time, I'd be able to talk myself out of it.

I was super cranky in the mornings until the patch kicked in (I slept with it off). My wife was very patient during that 2 month time. I think for me, I didn't really lose the cravings until It'd been about a month, and it was just every once and a while. I didn't stop drinking during this time, but I did stay out of bars!

I can't believe how much better I feel, health-wise, and just about my life in general now that I've quit.

You can do it. And if you don't make it this time, it's OK. Just give it another shot again. Good luck!

-Kenny D
Old 23rd January 2006
  #43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doorknocker
As a musician? Are you kidding?
And why shouldn't you a drink or two once in a while? Quitting smoking isn't about turning into Mother Theresa, it's just leaving to circle of a unnecessary, boring, mechanical thing i.e lighting up to satisfy your craving that is just there because you entered the circle.
Kopf hoch, Junge
Ah, it is ok- but I was going a lil crazy before.
I went for a walk, had some chocolate and went back to the studio.
Not going to smoke today, or tomorrow.
I do drink wine in the evenings, with dinner (this is Europe after all...) but it is more drinking beer with clients after work that I get the urge to light up.

I've left that for now- I can socialise later in the year.

Quit drinking?
Next you'll be telling me to give up opium.

jr
Old 24th January 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doorknocker
As a musician? Are you kidding?

No, I'm kidding but there's something that comes into play here that we might not want to admit: coolness.

So you quit smoking and you also quit alcohol for the danger of it being an evil path back to your cigarette habit. There's a real danger now that you'll run into a WTF moment and just light up again. Being over-serious isn't bound to last.

And why shouldn't you a drink or two once in a while? Quitting smoking isn't about turning into Mother Theresa, it's just leaving to circle of a unnecessary, boring, mechanical thing i.e lighting up to satisfy your craving that is just there because you entered the circle.

Another thing that helped me: The cravings might be very subtle, even if you manage to quit without 'pain', as I luckily was able to do. It's similar to being 'a bit' hungry and you might actually think it IS hunger for food. Just let it go, it will pass very quickly. Any 'cold turkey' moments will pass very quickly, should there be any.
The cravings can work in a VERY subtle way, just don't give 'them' the pleasure by giving in, it's not worth it.

Just don't light up again. You did enough smoking, you KNOW how it's like so why keep repeating it again and again?

And think of all the gear you'll be able to afford with the money you'll save.....

Kopf hoch, Junge
When I said to avoid drinking I meant for the first two weeks. If you can't go two weeks without a drink than you have more serious problems than just smoking.

As for the rest of your post, I 100% agree
Old 24th January 2006
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Still haven't smoked- over the worst of it now...
Thanks for the help ppl- couldn't of done it without ya.
Old 16th October 2017
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Still haven't smoked- over the worst of it now...
Thanks for the help ppl- couldn't of done it without ya.
Bumping this after.... 11 years, 8 months, 20 days.
That is how long ago I last smoked anything.
Old 16th October 2017
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Bumping this after.... 11 years, 8 months, 20 days.
That is how long ago I last smoked anything.
Well done mate! I congratulate you.
Old 16th October 2017
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Well done mate! I congratulate you.
Maybe time to move this thread out of the moan zone and into the good news forum?

Congrats!
Old 16th October 2017
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Bumping this after.... 11 years, 8 months, 20 days.
That is how long ago I last smoked anything.
Wow, really nice!

I guess I sort of got lucky when I decided to try cigarettes but just couldn't keep up with it because I actually had to WILL myself to smoke them. Every time I'd light up, I'd just think about how much of a horrible decision it was regarding my health and my wallet; I'd sift through the pros and cons in my head and just feel totally guilty about all the cons.

I'd also think back to the posters around my high school showing a bunch of the chemicals that went into cigarettes and how they become carcinogenic and toxic when burned. Even on the chance those were partially true, I knew that all of it was likely true (and the ingredients lists were certainly factual).

Anyway, my point isn't to offend anyone by suggesting I'm saying, "Look how easy it was for me to avoid cigarettes!" but just to generally share my thought process. It also helps that I'm pretty young and grew up in a time when cigarettes were being banned in public buildings and anti-smoking ads were being run. It made me think about the controversy and ultimately decide to just avoid it all. That being said, I see a lot of people my age starting to smoke. I can totally sympathize when it comes to stress, general nihilistic attitude/going to die anyway mindset, near-ubiquitous presence of cigarettes in social and work situations, and probably whatever else ... but I guess I keep going back to the pros and cons and wondering why it's such a thing.
Old 19th October 2017
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Almost four years ago I couldn't breathe, and would have to stand in one place all night. Even before that I knew regular smokers were choking/coughing a lot worse since they made "fire safe" cigs the law of the land. Fire safe is when the industry adds the same chemical as carpet glue around the paper. But I made my own cigs out of those tubes you buy with filters on them.
I researched and found even the tubes have been fire safe since around 2010. I switched to vaping but it was too late, and a while later had heart failure.

So I wake up in the hospital after heart surgery, feeling great, looking out the hospital window and there are nurses out in a blizzard trying to have a cigarette down below. I grab my eCig and take a puff, and the cardiologist walks in. He didn't care one bit and asked me "you WILL stay off tobacco?". Of course, never again.

So my approach wasn't total nicotine cessation but if you include carpet glue, there's 4,000 chemicals I'm not inhaling all the time, and I don't smell offensive to non-smokers. These days I stay aware of sales on ejuice, and it comes out to $1 a day for all the nicotine I can stand.

So either way smokers, quit the tobacco; it's a bad luck charm!
Old 4th November 2018
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Hi! New to the forum but i have some solid help for people who want to quit smoking! Try a vape, and once you're fully vaping quit vaping, easier then going cold turkey on cigarettes.
Old 2 weeks ago
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2 weeks cold turkey so far for me.

Severe Pneumonia can make anybody quit.

It wasn't that hard but I've always been a light smoker.
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