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Old 25th November 2008
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Foods That Help Your Hearing?

I ran across a couple articles on hearing loss, and foods that could help mend wounded ears, and figured this might be of some use for fellow gear slutz here.

Listen Up: Foods and Supplements that Could Improve Your Hearing - Associated Content

Hearing Loss Help » Ototoxic Foods?
Old 25th November 2008
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Ear health:

When I was a teenager I played in a LOUD band (buddy had a wealthy mom and a huge P.A., all stacked up in his basement). I'd had a series of ear infections and a doctor recommended I go to an ear-nose-throat specialist & have my ears cleaned. Which basically consists of a tube stuck in your ear making the most horrible sucking sounds.

Anyway, after the treatment, I could hear this loud HISSING noise. The doc explained that our brains/ears compensate, and if your ears get blocked up your brain amps up the highs - I was hearing the AC vents, traffic, even just the movement of air molecules. The noise went away in an hour or so, but man, I remember how good music sounded after that. The doc said everyone should get their ears cleaned every year or so - it's not a hygiene issue, ya just can't get a washcloth in there.

HEARING LOSS IS CUMULATIVE... and one of the mysteries of hearing loss is that you can batter your eardrums for decades, and then can quite SUDDENLY lose a large percent of your hearing ability with little warning. WEAR EAR PROTECTION...

TINNITUS IS HELL: ask Pete Townsend. Ask my ex-father-in-law who burst an eardrum in a scuba accident. Tinnitus - a condition brought on by sudden ear trauma or by years of abuse - is a sh*tty thing to have, regardless of whether you're a musician or not. Headaches, ringing, the loss of directionality, the loss of clarity, the absolute inability to converse in a crowd or party. WEAR EAR PROTECTION.

So, long&short of it:

WEAR EAR PROTECTION. And don't blast your iPod all day.

If you think you have some hearing loss/problems, see an ear specialist;

Your hearing can be tested - there are standards and tables (based on your age and being able to detect certain tones & frequencies) that will give you a definitive idea of how you stack up;

If you're known for always cranking the treble on amps, stereos, mixing boards, have him give your ears a suckin' out;

If you make $$ from critical listening (engineering, mixing, mastering) get your ears checked & cleaned yearly (and have them cleaned when you're not working for a day or two, so they'll re-adjust).
Old 25th November 2008
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phenomenal topic that most of us tend to forget!
We only get one set of ears, and all this gear is useless if we dont take care of them!
Cheers!
Old 25th November 2008
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Just to add;

Supplementing your diet with Vitamins C and E, as well as COQ 10 are highly recommended by Audiologists the world over, especially after any noise trauma. It worked for me after a 750w Leko exploded a foot away from my head. The damage it caused for over two months has now vanished. Thank God for Audiologists. I would encourage everyone to make regular visits and to eat healthy.

-Peace
Old 25th November 2008
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To care for your ears I have been recommended the following:
-drink enough, 2-3 litres a day: keeps the blood "thin" enough to properly supply the tiny thingies in your inner ear with blood. If this doesn't work they die and you hear less high frequencies.

-eat fresh fruit that contains magnesium (pills won't do - fresh fruit, really) The swiss army's scientists found that the ear uses up magnesium when exposed to loud sounds. If magnesium runs low, your ears will suffer like your car if oil is low.

-after being exposed to loud sounds take Arnica C30, a homepathic remedy, 5 little pills. Arnica is a treatment for injuries with blunt objects - for the ear, loud sounds are like that. You can think of homepathic stuff whatever you like, it's your ears.

I am 42 and have ears like a bat. I can easily hear a 16kHz sine without sidebands, the high pitched "eeeee" of the transformer in TVs and whatnot. I was in touring punk bands for ages. Go figure. I can hear my wristwatch from 10 feet away. I use tailormade custom earplugs a lot. They cost like 200$ but so what.
Old 25th November 2008
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-eat fresh fruit that contains magnesium (pills won't do - fresh fruit, really)
Hey Frans, thanks for your insights. Which fruits contain magnesium?
Old 25th November 2008
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As an old hippie/boho, I think I've heard all the magic food claims. (And I've heard some real doozies. People want to believe -- so bad.)

While good nutrition is very important to a healthy body -- and a healthy body is important to all body functions, among them hearing and recovery from 'insults' (potential injury) to the hearing apparatus, I strongly suspect there is no magic food that will, in itself, repair damaged hearing or assure protection from damage.


One thing that I have heard and find somewhat credible are recommendations (through third parties) from audiologists to avoid caffeine and alcohol.

You can imagine how much I didn't want to believe that one.


I think Frans has a truly golden suggestion: really good, professionally fitted ear protection.
Old 1st December 2008
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To jetplane666666: bananas, lemons, grapefruit... you better ask the internet and some expert. Sorry for the delay, I've been away for a few days. On top, leave the ears some time to recover - there are these little muscles in the ear that contract if it gets too loud, they need time to relax. I usually need more than a day to get back to 100% hearing after a night FOH, even with the moderate volumes I dial in. I try to serve the people a show that's dynamic and with enough impact, avoiding prolonged high levels because it's UNdynamic and stressful. People get used to a certain volume in a minute or so, after that 4000 watts and 20000 watts PA sound the same to them. Therefore I cheat: start "loud", pull down the volume slowly and they don't notice it. (Great all the same for the kickdrum in drummers monitors - a few first loud ones and they are okay, then turning it down to sensible levels, they NEVER complain, because they hear everything okay and just remember the blast of these first seconds - haha!) I never use compression or a limiter in the sum, I WANT the loud parts to be loud.
Old 1st December 2008
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Hey Frans, thanks for your insights. Which fruits contain magnesium?
Let me google that for you
Old 1st December 2008
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(Great all the same for the kickdrum in drummers monitors - a few first loud ones and they are okay, then turning it down to sensible levels, they NEVER complain, because they hear everything okay and just remember the blast of these first seconds - haha!) I never use compression or a limiter in the sum, I WANT the loud parts to be loud.

hehehe, the usual trick hehheh
Old 1st December 2008
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All this could be summed up to: eat healthy.

And while on the topic, buy ecological/organic non-processed food. You´d be amazed how much crap is in everything we eat.

Within the EU the average vegetable contains 10-30 poisonus substances. Grapes contain up to 900% more poisons than allowed. Fresh grapes are basically a poison cocktail. Meat ain´t any better and the list goes on.

Ecological/organic is the way to go, no need to poison your body and thereby your hearing too.
Old 1st December 2008
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another way to get your ears super clean is having an ear lavage. where some nurse shoots warm water into your ear and rinses out all of your ear gunk. at my local hospital/physicians office (kaiser permanente) i can get it done for free. oh yea, and prior the the water shooting, the nurse puts eardrops into your ear to dry out the gunk.
Old 1st December 2008
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Cool man, thanks for posting.
Old 1st December 2008
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Originally Posted by theblue1 View Post
As an old hippie/boho, I think I've heard all the magic food claims. (And I've heard some real doozies. People want to believe -- so bad.)

While good nutrition is very important to a healthy body -- and a healthy body is important to all body functions, among them hearing and recovery from 'insults' (potential injury) to the hearing apparatus, I strongly suspect there is no magic food that will, in itself, repair damaged hearing or assure protection from damage.


One thing that I have heard and find somewhat credible are recommendations (through third parties) from audiologists to avoid caffeine and alcohol.

You can imagine how much I didn't want to believe that one.


I think Frans has a truly golden suggestion: really good, professionally fitted ear protection.

No caffeine or alcohol? Might as well just be dead...
Old 2nd December 2008
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As an old hippie/boho, I think I've heard all the magic food claims. (And I've heard some real doozies. People want to believe -- so bad.)

While good nutrition is very important to a healthy body -- and a healthy body is important to all body functions, among them hearing and recovery from 'insults' (potential injury) to the hearing apparatus, I strongly suspect there is no magic food that will, in itself, repair damaged hearing or assure protection from damage.


One thing that I have heard and find somewhat credible are recommendations (through third parties) from audiologists to avoid caffeine and alcohol.

You can imagine how much I didn't want to believe that one.


I think Frans has a truly golden suggestion: really good, professionally fitted ear protection.
+1 Speaking from experience, tinnitus sucks--royally! 20/20 hindsight is wishing I'd even had rudimentary ear protection while shooting, running a feed mill, or driving a Cat back in my youth. Which was a day or two ago...heh
Old 2nd December 2008
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phenomenal topic that most of us tend to forget!
We only get one set of ears, and all this gear is useless if we dont take care of them!
Cheers!
i have to inappropriately point on that Nicky's avatar has 24 on it and he's made 24 posts. unfortunately this one was on the 25th november, so close.
Old 2nd December 2008
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One thing that I have heard and find somewhat credible are recommendations (through third parties) from audiologists to avoid caffeine and alcohol.
Caffeine especially.
Old 2nd December 2008
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Stay away from aspirin.
Old 13th January 2013
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will heavy usage of 808's have detrimental effects to our ears?
Old 13th January 2013
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Originally Posted by alvagoldbook View Post
I ran across a couple articles on hearing loss, and foods that could help mend wounded ears, and figured this might be of some use for fellow gear slutz here.

Listen Up: Foods and Supplements that Could Improve Your Hearing - Associated Content

Hearing Loss Help » Ototoxic Foods?
I'm afraid I don't believe in information of this kind, while it might have some general traits, in reality it is determined on the individual level, just like smoking. What is really important though is that you eat and drink food that resonates with who you are, that's the way I keep my health in check. Even nature based drugs, with the right intension and use, can serve a good effect for certain individuals at certain points in time.

An example of my habits is that I eat quite a lot of salads, some steaks and drink beer every now and then, things I love, as much as I love country music. My body loves it, because it's who I am, my expression of love and that's how I ensure I utilize the hearing capacity that has been designed for me. Taking additional steps to create fantasy results reported outside? Not for me.
Old 13th January 2013
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I would add to this Magnesium and N-Acetyl Cysteine, to be used as supplements after any noise trauma. I read some studies that suggested these helped a lot of people recover from noise overexposure, you can google this if you're curious. Magnesium is also known to reduce tinnitus a bit while you're on it, and caffeine to make tinnitus worse (temporarily, I think). I've had good luck with these supplements, personally. Mainly though I'm trying to reduce my bad habit of blasting guitar amps, etc. Don't take too much magnesium or you'll get runny poo. N-Acetyl cysteine should be taken in supplement doses, like 500 mg or so, twice a day. You can get it on ebay or over the counter from a pharmacy.

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Just to add;

Supplementing your diet with Vitamins C and E, as well as COQ 10 are highly recommended by Audiologists the world over, especially after any noise trauma. It worked for me after a 750w Leko exploded a foot away from my head. The damage it caused for over two months has now vanished. Thank God for Audiologists. I would encourage everyone to make regular visits and to eat healthy.

-Peace
Old 13th January 2013
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try some Slo Niacin to relive tintinitus
You can get the 750mg and break it in half at the score line.Consult the doctor before taking more than 500Mg a day
Old 9th April 2013
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crikey, how did i come across this thread, the last comment i made was when my ears were super healthy, and 2 weeks later after that, my ear problems erupt... i guess if you save for a rainy day, a rainy day will be inevitable...

or perhaps it's a blessing for my ears future because now I've been taking magnesium and other supplements due to my problems, and I definitely ignored the posts above stating that we should...
Old 9th April 2013
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Try an EAR of corn
Old 9th April 2013
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Anything that reduces systemic inflammation. Raw garlic, cruciferous vegetables, green tea, pomegranate juice, etc. Caffeine is fine as long as it's sourced from a healthy source like tea, coffee or dark chocolate.
Old 9th April 2013
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5HTP may help in some cases of tinitus which is stress related.
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Old 9th April 2013
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I once tried ear candles for cleaning. That stuff is no joke. It pulls out tons of stuff you never would think could even fit in there. Afterwords, I felt great. My head and sinus felt clearer then ever. I'd recommend giving it a shot, I'm going to be doing it again soon.
Old 9th April 2013
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I once tried ear candles for cleaning. That stuff is no joke. It pulls out tons of stuff you never would think could even fit in there. Afterwords, I felt great. My head and sinus felt clearer then ever. I'd recommend giving it a shot, I'm going to be doing it again soon.
utter quackery

scientific studies by medical doctors have proven that zero % of the 'stuff' it "pulls out" is human ear wax. It is 100% candle wax and condensates. The reason you never thought it could "fit in there" is because it never did! How gullible do people have to be?

Dangerous
quackery. Some ENTs report seeing more people who are accidentally BURNED from ear candles every year than ones who actually have medical problems with ear wax!

In any case, never forget that ear wax is a natural secretion the purpose of which is to protect the human ear. Removing it does not cure nor prevent tinnitus or any other noise induced hearing loss.
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Protect your ears people, I suffer from tinitus in my right ear after playing with loud rock bands and it can seriously mess up how productive you are in the studio, and just generally with music.
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