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Old 14th September 2011
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Out of curiousity, does anyone here working with audio have tinnitus?

Anybody here working proffessional with music and having tinnitus at the same time? Would be really fun to hear anybody doing that, tell me a bit about yourself, your tinnitus, and what you do. I am a musician, but I would love to mix/produce others music, but I do not know if it's possible in full-time with my tinnitus. I do have very sensitive ears, which can help making a mix work for loud volumes. But I'm only 23 years old, and do not have much experience at all. So hit me with your story! And take care... //Martin
Old 14th September 2011
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WHAT!? I CAN"T HEAR YOU! I HAVE TINNITUS!

Actually, not, but worked with a composer who did, and aside from the obvious annoyance, it didn't hamper his tracking or mixing ability at all.

There is a thread here by a fellow who was having a terrible time with it - hope he got the problem sorted....
Old 15th September 2011
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Had it ever since I can remember, but the late 70s-early 80s were pretty entertaining, so who knows.

My old man had it, and it drove him nuts. Doesn't bother me much. I'm not sure of a genetic link because we had similar histories of factory work and shooting before hearing protection became even thought of. (I'm 56)

I have two tones in my left ear that vary, and a higher one in my right that spikes when my jaw or neck pops.

I don't notice them while tracking or mixing. Play music at night to mask while going to sleep.
Old 15th September 2011
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Yeah, me, but I can't talk much about it right now as I'm working in professional music this week! I seem to be an RF tech this week...about 50 channels of wireless.
Cheers,
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Old 15th September 2011
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Originally Posted by martinforest View Post
Anybody here working proffessional with music and having tinnitus at the same time? Would be really fun to hear anybody doing that, tell me a bit about yourself, your tinnitus, and what you do. I am a musician, but I would love to mix/produce others music, but I do not know if it's possible in full-time with my tinnitus. I do have very sensitive ears, which can help making a mix work for loud volumes. But I'm only 23 years old, and do not have much experience at all. So hit me with your story! And take care... //Martin
yes
50 years
learn to ignore it
or you will go crazy

do NOT mix at loud volumes

do NOT listen to anything over 70dB
60dB would be better
Old 15th September 2011
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Yes, a tip...most of us have it...learn to listen with your brain and exercise it daily!
Old 15th September 2011
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No. but I was pretty serious about wearing plugs even when riding my motorcycle (wind noise) and when firing rifles while in the army. One time in the army I had to tear off and stuff filters from cigarettes in my ears, when I didn't have plugs handy. I wear plugs now when using my chain saw, or cutting aluminum extrusion with a mitre saw.

IF you have recent tinnitus there may be some recovery, but if the damage is permanent, you must learn to live with it. The ringing is the damaged nerve just firing away all the time, instead of when sounds come in and wiggle it's cilia. The inner ear has very small blood vessels so perhaps aspirin will help blood flow and healing, but a specialist can guide you better.

FWIW I knew a well know audio equipment designer who was deaf in one ear.

JR
Old 15th September 2011
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It's all about prevention as there is no cure. At 23 and have it, how did that happen?

I was a sort of cocky, yet pragmatic guy at that age. I was smart enough to know ears don't grow back. I began wearing those earplugs with the metal cylinder in them back in the 1970's. It was because it was more comfortable and better not to have ringing at night's end.

It became religous when I toured with Stevie Wonder, I was the only one on the tour that wore them. 120 db SPL's on stage told me to.

Like the 3 little pigs, I build a brick house for my ears, not a straw house. At nearly 60, I hear very well to 19k hz. No 4k hz dips and no "boilermaker's notch" either.

If you youngin's want to hear at my age, take my advice: Wear earplugs anywhere SPL's are over 90 db or pay the price down the road. I take a pair EVERYWHERE with me. I find I need them at movie theaters too sometimes.
When I played LA clubs back in the 1990's I wore them too. I would bring a bowl of them and set them at the door with a sign: Take two and wear them, we play loud and I wear them".
Old 15th September 2011
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To OP: I'm sure you have had your tinnitus medically investigated, but if not, then I would encourage you to do so.

Tinnitus can have a variety of causes that are not linked to aural abuse - for example, acoustic neuroma (benign tumour on the acoustic nerve).

Best to get it checked, and know what you are dealing with.

Paul
Old 15th September 2011
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When I was 19 I ended up in the university's anechoic chamber and heard that ring for the first time. Talked to my father who's a doctor and found out he has it pretty bad. 15 years of religious earplug use and I still hear 18k with no ringing. I know engineers who have it and do good work. But +1 to Jim above. Bring those earplugs everywhere. You never know when you might need em.
Old 16th September 2011
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Originally Posted by PRH View Post
To OP: I'm sure you have had your tinnitus medically investigated, but if not, then I would encourage you to do so.

Tinnitus can have a variety of causes that are not linked to aural abuse - for example, acoustic neuroma (benign tumour on the acoustic nerve).

Best to get it checked, and know what you are dealing with.

Paul
thanks

it was high powered rifle w/o plugs in college
didnt find out about them until after the damage was done

i can ignore it
sometimes i know it is there
mostly i dont realise it exists at all
Old 18th September 2011
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i got it once. really bad after a concert i played standing next to the guitar amp.
For the first time i wasn´t using plugs since we started very softly. 2 hours later after people started dancing it was loud as hell.
I went to a doctor emidiatly, got a lot of medicine and went on vacation for 8 Weeks. No work, no practice, no music, just long walks in the woods. Sound was gone after a couple of days, but i used the rest of the time to rest. It is often due to stress, don´t forget that!
I recovered mostly, but still sometimes i touch my right ear because i feel some strange preassure, like water in your ear.
Anyhow, the doctor sais my ears are very good.
The doctor told me also that if i had waited a couple of days chances would have been a lot worse.
A good friend who is a music lover has it all the time. He just doesn´t care. Others get cracy.
We can adapt very well, no reason why you shouldn´t mix. You just need experiance.
Once i saw Pat Metheny Group in Munich. I don´t know who he wos, but the guy behind the desc looked really old (no offense in case he is actually young...). With age it is only nature that you lose some ability. But the Sound was crystal clear and deep, just Perfect for a group that big.
I guess he just knew what he was doing.
Old 18th September 2011
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It became religous when I toured with Stevie Wonder
wow
Old 18th September 2011
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i've had it since i was 17... lots of pratices in small rooms with drums i think. i started wearing plugs around the same time, and i still wear plugs a lot.

My grandfather had it, my aunt on the same side has it. It gets progressively worse for me despite precautions I take. However I still do good work and I get a lot of work. My hearing is better than most people. A lot of hearing is knowing what to listen for. Being able to hear 19k is wonderful, and the last audio test I took I still had a lot of high-end I could hear... but really there isn't a lot of frequency management going on that high... unless somethings going really wrong!

I wear plugs when I vaccum.

The tinnitus does impact my life, in a pretty substantial way. I've read a lot of encouraging things about it lately though.
Old 18th September 2011
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I was just reading of late how the Coenzyme Q10 ......COQ10
Can help with tinnitus... it can be taken as a supplement. Obviously on doctors advice.
Googling will turn up lots, but here is something.
Statin Drugs and Tinnitus, the CoQ10 Connection - Quiet Times Tinnitus Newsletter, 01/2008
Old 18th September 2011
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it was high powered rifle w/o plugs in college
didnt find out about them until after the damage was done
@19 years old, a rather drunk friend fired a 30/30 next to my right ear...close enough to leave a stripe on the side of my head. He's lucky my 10 guage was a single shot & I'd already fired it. I'd have backed up a few feet and left him completely deaf. As it was, I couldn't hear for 6 months+.

I'm 39 now & the ringing is constantly there, but I'm a full time audio guy easily enough. The right ear is certainly useable, you just eventually learn to "listen past" the ringing. I do notice the ringing changes depending on what I eat & how much water I drink though.
Old 18th September 2011
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Thank you for all your answers. I learned more. Thank you.

I got Tinnitus a couple of years ago when my classmate hit a cymbal as a joke. I ignored the damage to the ear and it took some months for me to even get it into my head that I Damaged my years... I was a wreck and it changed my whole life, I could write a book about it... But Today I feel blessed, as it didn't kill me. The tone is not that high, I even like it. So take care people and thank you for all your answers.... love.
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