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DT100 beyer dynamic headphones?????
Old 3rd February 2007
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DT100 beyer dynamic headphones?????

I've just bought some DT100 beyer dynamic headphones, now i had the option of getting 16 ohms or 400ohms......i thought that the 400ohms would be much louder but i'm not so sure now.
Does anyone know what the major differences would be between some 16ohm headphones and some 400ohm headphones, or how the ohm setting works??
I'm just using them as an alternative for mixing, recording, djing and general everyday use, but not sure which ones would be best.

please help!
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I've just bought some DT100 beyer dynamic headphones, now i had the option of getting 16 ohms or 400ohms......i thought that the 400ohms would be much louder but i'm not so sure now.
Does anyone know what the major differences would be between some 16ohm headphones and some 400ohm headphones, or how the ohm setting works??
I'm just using them as an alternative for mixing, recording, djing and general everyday use, but not sure which ones would be best.

please help!
the 16ohms would be louder. because there is less resistans
in the chain.
it depends on the headphone amp.

if the impedance does not match (in its range) your sound may suffer.
read the manual of the headphone amp 2 find out what ohm imp. it is and needs.
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I suppose most of the time i'll be using it with my m-audio firewire 410.


TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS:
24-bit/96kHz A/D converters
FireWire 410 uses the highest quality components for digital audio conversion, insuring that your music sounds its best. 24-bit/96kHz ADC combines with high-level design and software driver technology for optimal fidelity.



24-bit/192kHz D/A converter
New high-end audio formats such as DVD-Audio are delivering output at a stunning 192kHz sampling rate. If you’re ready to take your critical listening to the next level, FireWire 410’s ability to output 24-bit/192kHz fidelity in stereo will really open your ears. You also get high-resolution 96kHz audio from all outputs simultaneously.



2 analog audio input channels
Two independent analog input channels accept a wide variety of input signals. A front-panel switch for each channel selects between 1/4” TS (-10dBV) line-level input on the rear and Neutrik (1/4” TS and balanced XLR) mic/instrument input on the front. Connect microphones, guitars, keyboards, samplers, CD players and more. The driver software allows you to route these internally to any analog or digital outputs.



8 analog audio outputs
The combination of eight 1/4” TS outputs and software-controlled routing and mixing yield a tremendous amount of flexibility. This design is equally suited for routing individual signals to separate channels on an external mixer or directly driving the components of a surround sound system. Any output pair can also produce high-definition 24-bit/192kHz signals for amazing sonic clarity.



Digital I/O
Two channels of S/PDIF in and out allow pristine transfers with other digital devices such as CD players, DATs and MiniDisc systems. The software control panel selects between rear-panel coaxial and TOSlink optical inputs, as well as which signals are routed simultaneously to both digital outs. Accompanying LEDs indicate valid data for both input and output. S/PDIF sample rates can either sync to external sources or operate at 44.1kHz, 48kHz or 96kHz.



Dual high-performance preamps
Each of the two input channels incorporates award-winning M-Audio microphone/instrument preamp technology—complete with +48-volt phantom power for condenser mics. They offer up to 48dB of gain for instruments like guitar and bass—and an amazing 66dB of gain for microphones. 20dB pads, as well as signal and clip LEDs on each channel also aid in adjusting proper input signal levels. These preamps simply sound great no matter what you connect to them. FireWire bus-powered operation means that you can record anywhere your laptop goes.



Surround-sound ready
The eight independent outputs are ideal for directly driving a 7.1 surround sound system. The digital outputs also offer passthrough of AC-3 and DTS surround content to an external decoder.



Dual headphone outputs
The combination of two 1/4” TSR headphone outputs allow you to easily compose, record and mix with a partner. The software control panel allows assignment of one or more sources to the headphones—perfect for producing in surround. Independent volume controls assure maximum flexibility and listening comfort.

thats the best specs i can find?
is that what you mean?
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No .technical specs. like this 1 of the digi 002 R

A/D D/A
Sample rate: Sample Rate:
44.1, 48, 88.2, 96 kHz
44.1, 48, 88.2, 96 kHz
Max Input: Max Output:
Inputs 1-4 (mic): +3 dBu
Inputs 1-4 (line): +18 dBu
Inputs 5-8 (line/+4 mode): +18 dBu
Main, Monitor, and Outputs 3-8: +18 dBu
Alt. -10 dBV Outputs: +4 dBV

Headphone Outputs: +15 dBu, 150 ohm load

Gain Range: Dynamic range: see notes 1, 3, and 4
Inputs 1-4: Mic Setting: +18 – +65 dB; Line/DI Setting: +0 – +50 dB
Inputs 5-8: fixed +4 dBu or -10 dBV
Main Outputs: 114 dB A-weighted, 112 dB (unweighted)
Monitor Outputs: 112 dB A-weighted, 110 dB (unweighted)
Outputs 3-8: 114 dB A-weighted, 112 dB (unweighted)
Alt. -10 dBV Outputs: 98 dB A-weighted, 95 dB (unweighted)
Mic E.I.N (unweighted): THD+N: see notes 1, 3, and 4
Inputs 1-4: -127 dBu @ 65 dB gain, 150 ohm source, 20 Hz – 20 kHz
Main Outputs: <0.0016% (-95 dB)
Monitor Outputs: <0.0016% (-95 dB)
Outputs 3-8: <0.0023% (-93 dB)
Alt. -10 dBV Outputs: <0.0023% (-93 dB)
THD+N @ 40 dB gain (mic input) @ 1 kHz: Frequency Response: see note 3
Inputs 1-4: 0.004% @ 1kHz, -1dBFS after 40 dB gain
+0.15 / -0.5 dB, 20 Hz – 20 kHz
THD+N (line input): see notes 1 and 3 Output Impedance:
Inputs 1-4: 0.004% @ -3 dBFS input level (minimum gain)
Inputs 5-6: 0.002% @ -1 dBFS input level
Inputs 7-8: 0.003% @ -1 dBFS input level
50 ohms
Dynamic range: see notes 1 and 2
Note 1: Measurement made using balanced connectors

Note 2: ADC measured -60 dBFS method with a gain setting such that +24 dBu = 0 dBFS at S/PDIF output

Note 3: Measured relative to level at 1 kHz

Note 4: Measured with digital input at -60 dBFS @ 1 kHz

Note 5: Measured using "+4" setting

Dimensions:
Width: 19 in / 48.26 cm
Height 3.5 in / 8.89 cm
Depth: 12.75 in / 32.39 cm
Weight: 12.13 lbs / 5.5 kg

Inputs 1-4: 101 dB A-weighted, 98 dB (unweighted)
Inputs 5-8: 108 dB A-weighted, 105 dB (unweighted) see note 5
Alt Source Inputs: 99 dB A-weighted, 97 dB (unweighted)
Frequency Response: see note 3
+0.15 / -0.5 dB, 20 Hz – 20 kHz
Input Impedance:
Inputs 1-4 (XLR): 2 kohm
Inputs 1-4 (1/4"): 10 Mohm
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i looked at the m-audio site,but nothing.
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thats strange on the m-audio site theres no specs for the firewire 410, but there is for all the other audio interfaces.......
well here's the spec for the firewire solo, i imagine its quite similar..

instrument input
available gain: 40dB
input range: -28 to +12dBV (0.04 to 4.0Vrms)
signal to noise ratio (min gain): -101dB @ 48kHz (A-weighted)
dynamic range (min gain): 101dB @ 48kHz (A-weighted)
THD+N (min gain): 0.0079% (-82dB), 1kHz, -1dBFS @ 48kHz
frequency response (min gain): +/-0.25dB, 20Hz to 20kHz @ 48kHz
+/-0.3dB, 20Hz to 40kHz @ 96kHz
impedance: 270 k Ohms

line outputs
max output (balanced): +10.2dBu (2.5Vrms)
max output (unbalanced): +2.0dBV (1.26Vrms)
signal to noise ratio: -107dB @ 48kHz (A-weighted)
dynamic range: 107dB @ 48kHz (A-weighted)
THD + N: 0.0024% (-92.5 dB), 1kHz, -1dBFS @ 48kHz
frequency response: +/-0.2dB, 20Hz to 20kHz @ 48kHz
+/-0.3dB, 20Hz to 40kHz @ 96kHz
crosstalk: -118dB, 1kHz, channel-to-channel
impedance (balanced): 300 Ohms
impedance (unbalanced): 150 Ohms

headphone outputs
max output: -2.0dBV (0.8Vrms) into 32 Ohms
signal to noise ratio: -106dB @ 48kHz (A-weighted)
dynamic range: 105dB @ 48kHz (A-weighted)
frequency response: +/-0.2dB, 20Hz to 20kHz @ 48kHz
+/-0.3dB, 20Hz to 40kHz @ 96kHz
crosstalk: -86dB, 1kHz, channel-to-channel
output impedance: 75 Ohms
working headphone impedance: 32 to 600 Ohms
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" working headphone impedance: 32 to 600 Ohms "

So you got to get the 400 Ohm headphones

plain simple

16Ohms is a 2 low imp. and may short stike the amp.
if driven hard.
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I think the only two options with the DT100s were 400 ohms or 16 ohm a lot of those high end dj headphones are around 32 - 50 ohms
so what type of headphone impedance would you reccomend? something around the middle of 32 - 600??
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I think the only two options with the DT100s were 400 ohms or 16 ohm a lot of those high end dj headphones are around 32 - 50 ohms
so what type of headphone impedance would you reccomend? something around the middle of 32 - 600??
mmmmh depends on the brand and the type of headphone.
you coud have a 32ohm headphone that can tear your ears of with the spl it produces.
but the sound is ****ty like dfegad.
because its for dj'ing they mix records in a night club, they wanna hear the music.
for a AE its all about the sound ,it doesent have to blast your ears off( with a lot of mid ).
i have the DT770 250 ohm.
and i love them to check my mix.
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i forgot i also have the DT-100 400ohm headphones.
but i dont like them.
there lying some where eating dust

if you are a live AE you be better of with the 16ohm version.(if the mixing desk can handel it)
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Just DON'T buy the DT-100. Worst sounding headphones ever.

It does not distort that easily. That's good, but everything sounds telephonelike.dfegad
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Just DON'T buy the DT-100. Worst sounding headphones ever.

It does not distort that easily. That's good, but everything sounds telephonelike.dfegad
oooooo yeah, thats why i dident like them.
they have that radio quality 2 them. no highs at all.
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cool thanks guys! I think I'll be swapping them then
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