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Superlux S502 Vs Schoeps MSTC64 !!! Condenser Microphones
Old 2nd June 2012
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Superlux S502 Vs Schoeps MSTC64 !!!

I’m the owner of a Superlux S502 for several months and the quality of the results, whatever the recording conditions and style of music, surprises me every time. The S502 is the Chinese copy of the famous Schoeps MSTC64 and I naturally think, given the monstrous price difference, that the original is better than the copy.
To be definitely convinced, I compare the two on a single recording session.
To avoid distorting your judgments, I will not give any details about my recording equipment, but only a few pictures.
The quality of interpretation (public concert) is very good and the acoustics of the place (church) is not fantastic but it is identical for both microphones.
I chose four pieces for their quality of interpretation. Blind test or course.
But the way I choose to download the files (16bits, 44kHz) is not the best. If you know an other one, please give it to me :

The main question is : Where is the S502 and whre is the MSTC 64 ?

6.1 : Free - Envoyez vos documents
6.2 : Free - Envoyez vos documents

7 1 : Free - Envoyez vos documents
7 2 : Free - Envoyez vos documents

8.1 : Free - Envoyez vos documents
8.2 : Free - Envoyez vos documents

9.1 : Free - Envoyez vos documents
9.2 : Free - Envoyez vos documents
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Old 2nd June 2012
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You might upload the wav files on mediafire. Here attached the mp3s from take 7 with -0.7 dB correction on track 1 for better balance between both tracks. I prefer 72.
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enregistrement71_-0.7dB.mp3 (5.81 MB, 8567 views)

enregistrement72.mp3 (5.81 MB, 8101 views)

Old 2nd June 2012
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Originally Posted by didier.brest View Post
You might upload the wav files on mediafire.
Ok, I"ll try it.
Old 2nd June 2012
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MP3 of the 2x4 tracks.
Attached Files

enregistrement 6 1.mp3 (5.25 MB, 18482 views)

enregistrement 6 2.mp3 (5.25 MB, 20184 views)

enregistrement 7 1.mp3 (4.65 MB, 12005 views)

enregistrement 7 2.mp3 (4.65 MB, 12396 views)

enregistrement 8 1.mp3 (5.04 MB, 8174 views)

enregistrement 8 2.mp3 (5.04 MB, 10588 views)

enregistrement 9 1.mp3 (7.19 MB, 8317 views)

enregistrement 9 2.mp3 (7.19 MB, 8239 views)

Old 2nd June 2012
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IMHO,

S502 = 6.1, 7.1, 8.1, 9.1

Schoeps = 6.2, 7.2, 8.2, 9.2

(Thanks for the chance to hear the comparison)

Last edited by mrmackin; 2nd June 2012 at 10:58 PM.. Reason: to say thank you & correction
Old 2nd June 2012
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IMHO,
S502 = ........9.2
Schoeps = ......9.2
(Thanks for the chance to hear the comparison)
??
All x.1, same microphone.
All x.2, same microphone
Old 2nd June 2012
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IMHO,
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IYHO, can you explain your choice ?
Old 3rd June 2012
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(IMHO = In My Humble Opinion)

It sounded to me that when I played the x.2 they have more atmosphere, or slightly larger separation of the highs and lows, but not very much. When I play the x.2 I have a lifting feeling in my chest that is more emotional, and makes me feel lighter, like floating. The x.1 sound good, but the highs and lows are more close to each other, and I don't hear the men as good as x.2.

So then I say, "number x.2 must be more the expensive microphone".

I hope I am wrong, for I only own the S502.
Old 3rd June 2012
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Exactly same impressions. I had only the 502 and modified it, main modification consist of replacing 470pF poor ceramic input capacitor with 1nF plastic film. Great improvement and now I'm nearly shure that 502 modified is equal to Schoeps.

Other mods consist of replacing some other capacitors, everything is there :

Superlux S502 modified VS MK12
Old 3rd June 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmackin View Post
So then I say, "number x.2 must be more the expensive microphone".

I hope I am wrong:
I think that you are:

MSTC64

S502
Old 5th June 2012
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oh another cheap chinese mic.
Old 5th June 2012
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all .1 schoeps (neutral)
all .2 S502 (high scoop)
Old 11th June 2012
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1 Schoeps
2 has more low and more (i.m.o. harsh) high: Superlux.
In the quiet passages, the Superlux sounds i.m.o. not bad at all, allthough it's noisier than the Schoeps.In the loud passage, I don't like the Superlux.
Old 24th June 2012
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Old 26th June 2012
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nice recording!
S502 -> somewhat extended high and reduced mid.
I quite like this mic; very helpful for several purposes.

I have also 2x CMC5 + MK4 & MK3 schoeps. More used those as main/ room mic
I tend to use the S502 (I have 4) for closer support channels. (choirs/ orchestra)

Recently acquired 2x Neumann KM184 D + DMI-2 digital mics. Have not yet tried this for real but at first glance looks very very promising.

greetings from Holland
Old 8th July 2012
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thanks a lot for this comparison! Results?
Schoeps .1 Superlux.2?
Old 8th July 2012
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thanks a lot for this comparison! Results?
Schoeps .1 Superlux.2?
Yes, that's right.
Old 23rd June 2013
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cool test.

i am amazed the 1/20th the price mic is as close as this.

it is fairly close.

different yes.... but pretty good for $200-ish!

Old 9th August 2013
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Damn! I like the Superlux better- #2 sounds lighter and faster
Old 12th March 2015
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Hi, i m new here!
I think i m gonna get some s502, it sounds good to my ear, especally on te low, i also belive that for a great mic like shoeps MSTC 64 you also need a great artists playing on it... otherwise it makes no sense to have a this high level microphone.
Does anyone made other comparaison or still using it for orchestra or organ?
Old 12th December 2017
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An old thread, but still significant.

I don't own a Schoeps, but I have the S502, and while it is not comparable with really great mics it's still a very decent mic IMHO; I don't hear its price, it certainle competes well with mic costing multiples of its price. As to noise it's not the quietest either, but there are much noisier mics out there costing ten times as much a pair (Earthworks QTC, to name some)...

My only complaint would be they go a bit out of whack when things get very loud. And for very, very quiet sources maybe a bit too noisy. But anything in between ... I can't complain.
Old 7th March 2018
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Does the noise floor of the Superlux S502 Vs Schoeps MSTC64 mean that the Superlux S502 is no good for capturing quiet ambient sounds on film sets?

As I was thinking that I might capture dialogue as normal (most boom, but with lavs as back ups) but also use a Superlux S502 planted appropriately (matching camera perspective?) to give stereo files of the place for post to use.
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