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Evaluating AD/DA loops by means of Audio Diffmaker Audio Interfaces
Old 17th August 2018
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Zoom F4 tested by sm5 (main out in XLR 1/2 ---> preamps in the loop):

ADM: -21,43msec, 0,107dB (L), 0,054dB (R)..Corr Depth: 16,2 dB (L), 17,7 dB (R) Difference: -35.9 dBFS (L), -36.9 dBFS (R)
Matlab: -21.44108 ms 0.0654 dB (L), 0.0216 dB (R) Difference: -36.6 dBFS (L), -38.0 dBFS (R).

To be added to the next issue of the list of results.

Last edited by didier.brest; 17th August 2018 at 06:09 AM..
Old 20th August 2018
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Great data here!

Some data for the RME ADI-2 Pro FS (XLR loopback):
Amazon Drive

Summary:
-1.998 sec, 0.249dB (L), 0.244dB (R). Corr Depth: 33.6dB (L), 35.1dB (R)

Essentially the same as the regular ADI-2 Pro (non-FS).

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Old 20th August 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by didier.brest View Post
Zoom F4 tested by sm5 (main out in XLR 1/2 ---> preamps in the loop)
Two additional tests of the Zoom F4 from sm5 using unbalanced stereo line input (TRS 5/6 input): Zoom 1-2 OUT to 5-6 IN
ADM: 1,307msec, 5,575dB (L), 5,614dB (R)..Corr Depth: 15,7 dB (L), 17,3 dB (R) Difference: -35.4 dBFS (L), -36.4 dBFS (R)
Matlab: 1.296840 ms 5.5263 dB (L), 5.5704 dB (R) Difference: -36.1 dBFS (L), -37.5 dBFS (R)

Zoom SUB OUT (stereo TRS 3/4 output) to 5-6 IN
ADM: 1,307msec, 0,882dB (L), 0,990dB (R)..Corr Depth: 15,7 dB (L), 17,3 dB (R) Difference: -35.4 dBFS (L), -36.5 dBFS (R)
Matlab: 1.296759 ms 0.8517 dB (L), 0.9628 dB (R) Difference: -36.1 dBFS (L), -37.5 dBFS (R)

To be added to the next issue of the list of results.

Last edited by didier.brest; 21st September 2018 at 07:07 AM..
Old 21st August 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Archimago View Post
Some data for the RME ADI-2 Pro FS (XLR loopback):
Amazon Drive
ADM: -1,998sec, 0,249dB (L), 0,244dB (R)..Corr Depth: 33,6 dB (L), 35,1 dB (R) Difference: -42.9 dBFS (L), -44.2 dBFS (R)
Matlab: -1.997675745 s, 0.2405 dB (L),0.2384 dB (R) Difference: -44.3 dBFS (L), -45.4 dBFS (R)


Quote:
Originally Posted by Archimago View Post
Essentially the same as the regular ADI-2 Pro (non-FS).
Yes : see here the result from the first test performed by LesC.
But it appeared further that much better result can be achieved by modifying the setting of the I/O filters. I guess that default settings of input and output filters are both SD Slow or SD Sharp. SD means small delay: latency is minimized but distortion is larger. Could you make the test again with 'Sharp' setting (without SD) for both filters ?
Old 30th August 2018
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Sound Devices MixPre-10T tested by sm5 (x1/x2 1/8" out into the 1/8" Aux in)
ADM: 886,1usec, 0,757dB (L), 0,665dB (R)..Corr Depth: 14,2 dB (L), 15,5 dB (R) Difference: -31.3 dBFS (L), -35.7 dBFS (R)
Matlab: 866.47 µs, 0.6591 dB (L), 0.5978 dB (R), Difference: -33.5 dBFS (L), -33.5 dBFS (R)

To be added to the next issue of the list of results.

Last edited by didier.brest; 2nd September 2018 at 08:44 PM..
Old 2nd September 2018
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Sound Devices MixPre-10T tested by sm5 (L/R Mini XLR to 1/2 XLR)
ADM: 125,7usec, 0,493dB (L), 0,700dB (R)..Corr Depth: 8,7 dB (L), 10,3 dB (R) Difference: -28.2 dBFS (L), -29.1 dBFS (R)
Matlab: tau = 98.296 µs, 0.1968 dB (L), 0.4804 dB (R), Difference: -29.1 dBFS (L), -30.4 dBFS (R)
To be added to the next issue of the list of results.
Old 11th September 2018
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Another test by sm5: Audient ID44 1+2 outs to Insert Returns 1+2

ADM: -277,1usec, 0,077dB (L), 0,071dB (R)..Corr Depth: 29,1 dB (L), 30,7 dB (R) Difference: -42.7 dBFS (L), -43.9 dBFS (R)
Matlab: -282.76 µs, 0.1161 dB (L), 0.1104 dB (R), Difference: -44.5 dBFS (L), -45.6 dBFS (R)

To be added to the next issue of the list of results.

Last edited by didier.brest; 21st September 2018 at 07:05 AM..
Old 20th September 2018
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Again a test by sm5: MOTU 828es 5+6 TRS out to 5+6 TRS in

ADM: -1,654msec, 0,219dB (L), 0,219dB (R)..Corr Depth: 39,3 dB (L), 34,7 dB (R) Difference: -39.1 dBFS (L), -40.0 dBFS (R)
Matlab: -1.65684 ms, 0.1862 dB (L), 0.1979 dB (R), Difference: -39.6 dBFS (L), -39.6 dBFS (R)

To be added to the next issue of the list of results.

Last edited by didier.brest; 21st September 2018 at 07:08 AM..
Old 20th September 2018
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Quote:
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To all who would be kind enough to spare some time to answer, would you say that the RME FF400 is actually not as efficient as some of the Motu equipment (such as the 828 Mk2 which is quite outdated I would think) ? And is the Mk3 hybrid really not doing so well ?
The old MkII was designed circa 2002-3, before all the electronics companies rushed to China in a race-to-the-bottom price war. Hence, build quality and components were at a higher standard than gear built today.

Still can't beat MOTU's mac drivers though... Solid and consistently updated - software drivers are the heart-and-soul of any converter!
Old 22nd September 2018
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List of results updated with tests of Zoom F4, RME ADI-2 Pro FS, Sound Devices MixPre-10T, Audient iD44 and MOTU 828es.

DA-AD loops from this wav file evaluated by means of Audio DiffMaker.

'Difference' indicates RMS level figures measured in Wavelab from the difference file delivered by Audio DiffMaker.
'Difference*' indicates RMS level figures got from a difference file generated in Matlab after refining the time offset and gain figures provided by Audio DiffMaker in order to get the lowest difference level. Hence the 'Difference*' figures are lower than the 'Difference' figures.

Read also this about the test method.
See at the end of this post how to contribute to the test.

AD-DA converters performing from their internal clock

Lynx Hilo
CoolColJ - 6 last second part disregarded: -0,1 dB (L), -0,1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 41,8 dB (L), 43,7 dB (R), Difference*: -59.1 dBFS (L), -59.2 dBFS (R)
sm5, line in and line out trims set at +0: -0.1 dB (L), -0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 41,8 dB (L), 43,6 dB (R) Difference*: -58.9 dBFS (L), -59.0 dBFS (R)
sm5, level line in and line out trims set at +24: 0.0 dB (L), 0.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 41,8 dB (L), 43,6 RMS Difference*: -59.1 dBFS (L), -59.1 dBFS (R)
Agustin Mongelli, Line out: -0,1 dB (L), -0,1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 41,9 dB (L), 43,7 dB (R) Difference*: -59.1 dBFS (L), -59.2 dBFS (R)
Agustin Mongelli, Phone out: 0.0 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 41,9 dB (L), 43,7 dB (R) Difference*: -59.1 dBFS (L), -59.2 dBFS (R)
Agustin Mongelli, Line Out Trim 0dBV, Line In Trim 2dBV: 1,9 B (L), 1,9 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 41,9 dB (L), 43,7 dB (R) Difference*: -59.1 dBFS (L), -59.2 dBFS (R)
capn357: 0.0 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 41,8 dB (L), 43,6 dB (R) Difference*: -59.1 dBFS (L), -59.1 dBFS (R)
schizoide on Pragmatic Audio: 0.0 dB (L), 0.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 41,9 dB (L), 43,7 dB (R) Difference*: -59.1 dBFS (L), -59.2 dBFS (R)

Merging Technologies Hapi
ADA8 ---> ADA8 (ljudatervinning): 0.391dB (L), 0.376dB (R) Corr Depth: 38,5 dB (L), 40,1 dB (R) Difference*: -58,9 dBFS (L), -60,3 dBFS (R)
DA8P --> AD8DP (Touf on Pragmatic Audio)
0.08 dB (L), 0.07 dB (R) Corr Depth: 35,9 dB (L), 37,2 dB (R) Difference*: -53.0 dBFS (L), -52.8 dBFS (R)
ADA8 ---> AD8D (ljudatervinning) 0,2 dB (L), 0,2 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,2 dB (L), 37,6 dB (R) Difference*: -53.1 dBFS (L), -53.0 dBFS (R)

Lynx Aurora(n) (Mikathechou): 1.1 dB (L), 1.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 41,4 dB (L), 43,2 dB (R) Difference*: -58.9 dBFS (L), -59.0 dBFS (R)

Antelope Pure2
Touf on Pragmatic Audio: -0.0 dB (L), -0,2 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.8 dBFS (L), -58.2 dBFS (R)
MattGray: 0,0 dB (L), -0,0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37.9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.8 dB (L), -58.2 dB (R)

Apogee Symphony I/0 Mk II (Diegel)
-0.4 dB (L), -0.4 (R)..Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.8 dBFS (L), -58.2 dBFS (R)

Metric Halo LIO-8
BrianVengeance: 3.0 dB (L), 3.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,4 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.7 dBFS (L), -58.1 dBFS (R)
Antoine Fabi: 3,4 dB (L), 3,4 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.7 dBFS (L), -58.1 dBFS (R)
Antoine Fabi, out +3 dB: 0.4 dB (L), 0.5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.8 dBFS (L), -58.2 dBFS (R)

MOTU 2408mk3 (ram75)
0,1 dB (L), 0,1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56,7 dBFS (L), -58,1 dBFS (R)

MOTU 828mkII
laurend: 6.1 dB (L), 6.2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 36,4 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.7 dBFS (L) -58.0 dBFS (R)
MusicManic: -0.1 dB (L), -0,0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.7 dBFS (L) -58.0 dBFS (R)
syns: 6.1 dB (L), 6.1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 36,4 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference* -56.7 dBFS (L) , -58.0 dBFS (R)
capn357 0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,4 dB (L), 38,0 dB (R) Difference*: -56.7 dBFS (L), -58.1 dBFS (R)
jeamsler: 6.0 dB (L), 6.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,4 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.7 dBFS (L), -58.0 dBFS (R)
Xav: 0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R), Difference*: -56.7 dBFS (L), -58.1 dBFS (R)

MOTU 24I/O
Zam on Pragmatic Audio: 0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.7 dBFS (L), -58.0 dBFS (R)
ram75: 0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.7 dBFS (L), -58.1 dBFS (R)

Mytek 8 x 192 AD/DA (MainTime)
0,4 dB (L), 0,5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 35,3 dB (L), 36,9 dB (R) Difference*: -55.8 dBFS (L) -57.1 dBFS (R)

Lynx Aurora 8 (cylens)
-0,1 dB (L), -0,1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 34,6 dB (L), 36,3 dB (R) Difference*: -54.5 dBFS (L) -55.6 dBFS (R)

Lynx Aurora 16
Touf on Pragmatic Audio: -0,1dB (L), -0,1dB (R)..Corr Depth: 34,6 dB (L), 36,3 dB (R) Difference: -54,2 dBFS (L) , -55,1 dBFS (R)
antichef: -0,1 dB (L), -0,1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 34,6 dB (L), 36,2 dB (R) Difference*: -54.5 dBFS (L), -55.5 dBFS (R)
Aurora 16-VT, out-in through patch bay, Mikathechou: 1.1 dB (L), 1.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 32,8 dB (L), 34,4 dB (R) Difference*: -52.9 dBFS (L), -54.1 dBFS (R)

Edirol UA-1000 (gollumsluvslave)
0.2 dB (L), 0.2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 34,0 dB (L), 35,6 dB (R) Difference*: -54.4 dBFS (L), -55.7 dBFS (R)

RME ADI-2 Pro, balanced out to balanced in (LesC)
Sharp DA - Sharp AD: 0.4 dB (L), 0.4 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 33,6 dB (L), 35,2 dB (R) Difference*: -53.9 dBFS (L), -55.2 dBFS (R)
Slow DA - Slow AD: 0.4 dB (L), 0.3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 33,6 dB (L), 35,2 dB (R) Difference: -52.8 dBFS (L), -54.3 dBFS (R)
SD Sharp DA - SD Sharp AD: 0.4 dB (L), 0.4 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 33,6 dB (L), 35,3 dB (R) Difference*: -44.5 dBFS (L), -45.5 dBFS (R)
SD Slow DA - SD slow AD: 0.3 dB (L), 0.3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 33,6 dB (L), 35,2 dB (R) Difference*: -47.9 dBFS (L), -48.9 dBFS (R)
FS version (Archimago, unspecified setting): 0,2 dB (L), 0,2 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 33,6 dB (L), 35,1 dB (R) Difference*: -44.3 dBFS (L), -45.4 dBFS (R)

Alesis io|29 (mistergo): 0.7 dB (L), 0.7 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 33,9 dB (L), 35,6 dB (R) Difference*: -53.9 dBFS (L), -55.0 dBFS (R)

TC Electronic Studio Konnekt 48
DownSideUp: 13.1 dB (L), 13.2 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 33,2 dB (L), 34,8 dB (R) Difference*: -53.6 dBFS (L) -54.9 dBFS (R)
kas_lar 0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 33,1 dB (L), 34,7 dB (R) Difference*: -53.4 dBFS (L), -54.7 dBFS (R)

Lynx L22
bezen4uk: 2.9 dB (L), 2.9 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 33,0 dB (L), 34,7 dB (R) Difference*: -53.5 dBFS (L), -54.7 dBFS (R)
jeamsler: 0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 32,8 dB (L), 34,4 dB (R) Difference*: -53.2 dBFS (L), -54.6 dBFS (R)

ESI [email protected] (Agustin Mongelli)
5.6dB (L), 5.7dB (R) Corr Depth: 33,0 dB (L), 34,6 dB (R) Difference*: -53.4 dBFS (L), -54.7 dBFS (R)

ESI [email protected] XTe
DUJS: -0.3 dB (L), -0.3 dB (R) Corr Depth: 32,7 dB (L), 34,3 dB (R) Difference*: -53.1 dBFS (L), -54.5 dBFS (R)
edneysis: -0.4 dB (L), -0.5 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 32,9 dB (L), 34,5 dB (R) Difference*: -53.3 dBFS (L), -54.7 dBFS (R)

Lynx LynxTWO-B
bezen4uk: 2,8 dB (L), 2,8 dB (R) Corr Depth: 32,7 dB (L), 34,3 dB (R) Difference*: -53.2 dBFS (L) , -54.5 dBFS (R)
mattiasnyc: -0,03 dB (L), -0,04 dB (R) Corr Depth: 32,9 dB (L), 34,5 dB (R) Difference: -52.8 dBFS (L) , -53.4 dBFS (R)

Lynx E44 (LTrain)
-0.0 dB (L), -0.0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 32,3 dB (L), 34,1 dB (R) Difference*: -52.5 dBFS (L), -53.9 dBFS (R)

RME HDSP 9632 (schtim)
0.5 dB (L), 0.5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 31.4 dB (L), 33.0 dB (R) Difference*: -51.9 dBFS (L) -53.2 dBFS (R)

RME ADI-8 QS (lou latch)
0.0 dB (L), 0.0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 31,4 dB (L), 32,9 dB (R) Difference*: -51.7 dBFS (L), -52.7 dBFS (R)
5.0 dB (L), 5.0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 31,4 dB (L), 33,0 dB (R) Difference*: -51.7 dBFS (L), -52.9 dBFS (R)

Audient iD22 through insert returns
andyfromHH: 0.0 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 32,4 dB (L), 34,3 dB (R) Difference*: -45.4 dBFS (L), -46.6 dBFS (R)
Hardtailed (outputs 3-4): -0,089dB (L), -0,091dB (R)..Corr Depth: 31,1 dB (L), 32,7 dB (R) Difference*: -51.6 dBFS (L), -52.4 dBFS (R)
kas_lar, outputs 1&2: -0,1 dB (L), -0,1B (R)..Corr Depth: 31,3 dB (L), 32,7 dB (R) Difference*: -51.6 dBFS (L), -52.8 dBFS (R). Outputs 3&4: 0.0 dB (L), 0.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 31,1 dB (L), 32,9 dB (R) Difference*: -51.4 dBFS (L), -53.0 dBFS (R)
IburiedPaul Out 1&2 to Ret. 1&2: -0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R) (R)..Corr Depth: 31,3 dB (L), 32,9 dB (R) Difference*: -51.8 dBFS (L), -53.1 dBFS (R)
sm5, ID22 Output 1+2: 1.2 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 24,4 dB (L), 30,5 dB (R) Difference*: -51.7 dBFS (L), -53.0 dBFS (R). ID22 Output 3+4: 0.2 dB (L), 0.2 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 31,2 dB (L), 32,7 dB (R) Difference*: -51.6 dBFS (R), -52.9 dBFS (L)

Prism Lyra 1 (capn357)
0,0 dB (L), -0,0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 31,3 dB (L), 33,1 dB (R) Difference*: -51.6 dBFS (L), -53.0 dBFS (R)

Prism Lyra 2 (Shptq)
0,0 dB (L), -0,0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 31,0 dB (L), 32,6 dB (R) Difference*: -51.3 dBFS (L), -52.6 dBFS (R)

Prism Orpheus (MainTime)
0,1 dB (L), 0,1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 30,8 dB (L), 32,4 dB (R) Difference*: -51.1 dBFS (L) -52.4 dBFS (R)

Digidesign Digi 002 Rack with Black Lion Audio Signature mod. Line Out 7+8 to Line In 7+8 (jlam): 0.3 dB (L), 0.4 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 30,3 dB (L), 32,1 dB (R) Difference*: -50.7 dBFS (L), -52.1 dBFS (R)

Universal Audio Apollo 16 mkII (antichef)
0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 30,2 dB (L), 31,8 dB (R) Difference*: -50.7 dBFS (L) , -52.1 dBFS (R)

RME Fireface 400
didier.brest: 0.3 dB (L), 0.3 dB (R) Corr Depth: 30,2 dB (L), 31,8 dB (R) Difference*: -50.7 dBFS (L) -52.0 dBFS (R)
MusicManic: 0.2 dB (L), 0.3 dB (R) Corr Depth: 24,0 dB (L), 25,8 dB (R) Difference*: -44.4 dBFS (L) -46.0 dBFS (R)

MOTU Track16 (EvgenyStudio)
7.0 dB (L), 6.9 dB Corr Depth: 30,0 dB (L), 31,5 dB (R) Difference*: -50,4 dBFS (L), -51,6 dBFS (R)
MOTU Track16

Forssell MADA-2
vjm through funkakuchi on Pragmatic Audio) 3,6 dB (L), 4,1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 27,8 dB (L), 30,9 dB (R) Difference* -50.3 dBFS (L) , -51.7 dBFS (R)
MattGray (rev. a unit): 0.0 dB (L), 0.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 29,6 dB (L), 31,2 dB (R) Difference*: -50.1 dBFS (L), -51.5 dBFS (R)
Mikathechou (DA converters upgraded to 2-a version ones) 1.0 dB (L), 1.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 29,7 dB (L), 31,3 dB (R) Difference*: -50.1 dBFS (L), -51.5 dBFS (R)

Apogee Symphony I/O
(Ajantis) 0,0 dB (L), 0,0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 43,4 dB (L), 45,6 dB (R) Difference*: -51,2 dBFS (L), -50,1 dBFS dB (R)
Diegel -0.2 dB (L), -0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 43,4 dB (L), 45,6 dB (R) Difference*: -51.1 dBFS (L), -50.1 dBFS (R)

MOTU 16A (davidbayles)
728.5 µs, 1.518 dB (L) 1.513 dB (R) Corr Depth: 43,4 dB (L), 45,6 dB (R) Difference*: -51.1 dBFS (L), -50.1 dBFS (R)

Apogee Rosetta 800 (davidbayle)
0.2 dB (L), 0.2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 39,7 dB (L), 41,7 dB (R) Difference*: -50.0 dBFS (L), -50.9 dBFS (R)

Apogee Rosetta 200 (Winston Tones)

-0.1 dB (L), -0.0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 37,9 dB (L), 39,8 dB (R) Difference*: -50.7 dB (L), -50.0 dB (R)

Prism ADA-8XR (shelterr)
-0,03 dB (L), -0,03 dB (R) Corr Depth: 37,5 dB (L), 39,5 dB (R) Difference*: -50,7 dBFS(L) -50,0 dBFS(R)

Crane Song HEDD-92 (Spartacus)
0.5 dB (L), 0.5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 36,6 dB (L), 38,4 dB (R) Difference*: -50.7 dBFS (L) , -50.0 dBFS (R)

Antelope Orion Studio Rev2017 (jeamsler)
Orion Studio Line Out to Line In: 1.3 dB (L), 1.3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 27,7 dB (L), 29,3 dB (R) Difference*: -43.6 dBFS (L), -44.8 dBFS (R)
Orion Studio Monitor Out to Line In: 1.3 dB (L), 1.3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 34,8 dB (L), 36,4 dB (R) Difference*: -49.9 dBFS (L), -50.9 dBFS (R)
Orion Studio Reamp Out to Line In: 6.5 dB (L), 6.5 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 9,9 dB (L), 9,8 dB (R) Difference*: -29.7 dBFS (L), -29.3 dBFS (R)

TC Electronics Impact Twin
AndG
: 0.5 dB (L), 0.8 dB (R) Corr Depth: 32,0 dB (L), 33,6 dB (R) Difference*: -52.5 dBFS (L) -53.8 dBFS (R)
jeamsler: 1.5 dB (L), 1.7 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 29,0 dB (L), 30,6 dB (R) Difference*: -49,5 dBFS (L), -50,8 dBFS (R)
Coucou: -0.1 dB (L), -0.0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 29,1 dB (L), 30,4 dB (R) Difference*: -49.5 dBFS (L), -50.5 dBFS (R)
ben: 0.5 dB (L), 0.8 dB (R) Corr Depth: 29,1 dB (L), 30,8 dB (R) Difference*: -49.6 dBFS (L), -50.9 dBFS (R)

MOTU 896HD (fredrikberg)
1.1 dB (L), 1.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 29,0 dB (L), 30,5 dB (R) Difference*: -49.4 dBFS (L), -50.7 dBFS (R)

Echo Audiofire 12 (guze)
0.7 dB (L), 0.7 dB (R) Corr Depth: 28,8 dB (L), 30,1 dB (R) Difference*: -49.2 dBFS (L) -50.3 dBFS (R)

PreSonus RML32AI (Xav)
-0.8 dB (L), -0.7 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 28,4 dB (L), 30,0 dB (R) Difference*: -48.8 dBFS (L), -50.1 dBFS (R)

RME Babyface Pro (EvgenyStudio)
XLR out to XLR in: -0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 24,9 dB (L), 32,9 dB (R) (L), Difference*: -43.9 dBFS (L), -48.7 dBFS (R)
Headphone out to line ins: 0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 34,9 dB (L), 36,5 dB (R) Difference*: -48.8 dBFS (L), -49.8 dBFS (R)

Konnekt Live (livebox) : 7.0 dB (L), 7.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 28,2 dB (L), 29,7 dB (R) Difference*: -48.6 dBFS (L), -50.0 dBFS (R)

MOTU 828 MK3 hybrid
South Paul: 4.5 dB (L), 4.4 dB (R) Corr Depth: 30,0 dB (L), 31,6 dB (R) Difference*: -48.3 dBFS (L), 48.4 dBFS (R)
jeamsler: 3.5 dB (L), 3.5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 29,5 dB (L), 31,3 dB (R) Difference*: -48.1 dBFS (L), -48.5 dBFS (R)

Avid HD I/O 16x16 Analog (Pezzn)
-0,0 dB (L), -0,0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 28,8 dB (L), 30,6 dB (R) Difference*: -47.7 dBFS (L), -48.1 dBFS (R)

SPL Madison
living sounds - Early production unit: 0.0 dB (L), 0.0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 27,3 dB (L), 28,9 dB (R) Difference*: -47.6 dBFS (L), -49.0 dBFS (R)
funkakuchi on Pragmatic Audio: 0.0 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 27,2 dB (L), 28,8 dB (R) Difference*: -47.7 dB (L), -49.0 dB (R)

SSL Alpha-Link MX 16-4 (Sankly)
0,1 dB (L), 0,1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 27,2 dB (L), 28,8 dB (R) Difference*: -47.6 dBFS, -48.9 dBFS

Dell Optiplex 755 (Winston Tones)
Front jack analog out to rear mini-jack line in 1.2 dB (L), 1.3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 27,0 dB (L), 28,6 dB (R) Difference*: -47.4 dBFS (L) , -48.8 dBFS (R)
Front jacks: 1,7 dB (L), 1,3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 25,3 dB (L), 26,8 dB (R) Difference: -44.8 dBFS (L) , -45.9 dBFS (R)
Rear mini-jacks: -0,4 dB (L), -0,3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 11,9 dB (L), 13,9 dB (R) Difference: -31.5 dBFS (L) , -32.8 dBFS (R)

DAD AX24 ([email protected])
-0,1 dB (L), -0,1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 27,4 dB (L), 28,9 dB (R) Difference*: -46.8 dBFS (L), -47.3 dBFS (R)

Behringer ADA8200 (didier.brest)
gain @ 10 o'clock : 4.3 dB (L), 4.6 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 27,6 dB (L), 29,2 dB (R) Difference*: -46.6 dBFS (L) , -47.7 dBFS (R)
gain mini : 14,7 dB (L), 14,3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 27,9 dB (L), 29,5 dB (R) Difference: -46,8 dBFS (L) , -47,9 dBFS (R)

Echo Audiofire 4
syns 0.4 dB (L), 0.4 dB (R) Corr Depth: 26,3 dB (L), 27,6 dB (R) Difference*: -46.7 dBFS (L), -47.8 dBFS (R)
david1103 0,5 dB (L), 0,4 dB Corr Depth: 25,6 dB (L), 27,4 dB (R) Difference: -45,2 dBFS (L), -46,3 dBFS (R)

Antelope Audio Eclipse 384 (Giuseppe Zaccaria)
-0.1 dB (L), -0.2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 26,3 dB (L), 27,8 dB (R) Difference*: -46.6 dBFS (L) -47.9 dBFS (R)

Universal audio Apollo 8 Quad (kmr)
0.1 dB (R) 0.1 dB (L) Corr Depth: 30,2 dB (L), 31,8 dB (R) Difference*: -46.4 dBFS (L), -47.4 dBFS (R)

Focusrite Red 4Pre (jacko)
8,6 dB (L), 8.6 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 27,9 dB (L), 29,5 dB (R) Difference*: -46.0 dBFS (L), -47.1 dBFS (R)

Apogee Ensemble Thunderbolt (kmr)
0,2 dB (L), 0,3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 25,2 dB (L), 26,8 dB (R) Difference*: -45.7 dBFS (L), -47.1 dBFS (R)

Echo 2 (bezen4UK)
2,3 dB (L), 2,3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 26,9 dB (L), 28,6 dB (R) Difference*: -45.7 dBFS (L), -47.0 dBFS (R)

Universal Audio Apollo Quad (davidbayles)
0.3dB (L), 0.3dB (R). Corr Depth: 26,5 dB (L), 28,0 dB (R). Difference*: -45.7 dBFS (L), -46.4 dBFS (R)

E-MU 1616M
(vechung): 9.7 dB (L), 9.6 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 26,3 dB (L), 28,4 dB (R) Difference*: -45.5 dBFS (L), -46.5 dBFS (R)
left channel only (ben): -0.4 dB (L), Corr Depth: 28,9 dB (L) Difference: -47.7 dBFS (L)

E-MU 1212M (tiberius)
0.9 dB (L), 0.8 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 25,7 dB (L), 27,1 dB (R) Difference*: -45.0 dBFS (L), -45.7 dBFS (R)

Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 (MusicManic)
-0.566 dB (L), 0.293 dB (R) Corr Depth: 27,8 dB (L), 32,0 dB (R) Difference*: -45.3 dBFS (L), -44.6dBFS (R)

Mackie Onyx Blackjack (kegn51)
2,9 dB (L), 2,9 dB (R) Corr Depth: 30,5 dB (L), 32,3 dB (R) Difference*: -45.1 dB (L), -44.5 dB (R)

M-Audio FireWire 410 (JonasNorberg)
0.2dB (L) 0.2dB (R)..Corr Depth: 24,5 dB (L), 26,2 dB (R) Difference*: -44.9 dBFS (L), -46.4 dBFS (R)

M-Audio Profire 2626 (cylens)
-0.5 dB (L), -0.5 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 24,4 dB (L), 25,9 dB (R) Difference*: -44.8 dBFS (L), -46.1 dBFS (R)

Universal Audio Apollo Twin MkII (EvgenyStudio)
Main Outs To Line Ins: 5.9 dB (L), 5.9 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 25,7 dB (L), 27,2 dB (R) Difference*: -43.5 dBFS (L), 44.3 dBFS (R)
Headphones out to Line Ins: 2.9 dB (L), 2.9 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 25,7 dB (L), 27,3 dB (R) Difference*: -44.8 dBFS (L), -46.0 dBFS (R)

Ferrofish A32 (mudseason)
05 dB (L), 0.5 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 25,7 dB (L), 27,4 dB (R) Difference*: -44.8 dBFS (L), -45.4 dBFS (R)

Audient iD44, 1-2 out to Insert Returns 1-2
(sm5)
: 0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 29,1 dB (L), 30,7 dB (R) Difference*: -44.5 dBFS (L), -45.6 dBFS (R)

ESI ESP1010 (Agustin Mongelli)
-0,2 dB (L), -0,2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 24,0 dB (L), 25,7 dB (R) Difference*: -44.4 dBFS (L) , -45.9 dBFS (R)

Echo Audiofire 8 non adat CS4272 (guze)
0,8 dB (L), 0,9 dB (R) Corr Depth: 26,4 dB (L), 28,2 dB (R) Difference*: -44.0 dBFS (L) -43.9 dBFS (R)

MOTU HD192 (delchambre on Audiofanzine)
1.0 dB (L), 1.0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 23,4 dB (L), 25,0 dB (R) Difference*: -43.8 dBFS (L), -45.3 dBFS (R)

ECHO INDIGO io (bezen4uk)
0,6 dB (L), 0,6 dB (R) Corr Depth: 26,1 dB (L), 27,8 dB (R) Difference*: -43,8 dB (L), -43,7 dB (R)

Roland Quad-Capture (IburiedPaul)
ADM: 0.1 dB (L), 0.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 23,2 dB (L), 24,5 dB (R) Difference*: -43.5 dBFS (L), -44.8 dBFS (R)

RME HDSPe AIO(Touf on Pragmatic Audio)
0.7 dB (L), 0.7 dB (R) Corr Depth: 23,0 dB (L), 24,5 dB (R) Difference*: -43,4 dBFS (L) , -44,7 dBFS (R)

RME Multiface II (juki, Audiofanzine)
Unbalanced, -10 dBV: 0.5 dB (L), 0.4 dB (R) Corr Depth: 22,7 dB (L), 24,4 dB (R) Difference*: -43.2 dBFS (L) -44.6 dBFS (R)
Balanced, 4 dBu: Corr Depth: 22,3 dB (L), 23,9 dB (R) Difference: -41,9 dBFS (L) -43,0 dBFS (R)

Echo MiaMIDI (jeamsler)
0.2 dB (L), 0.3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 22,7 dB (L), 24,3 dB (R) Difference*: -43,1 dBFS (L), -44,5 dBFS (R)

TASCAM SX-1 (fredrikberg)
10.1 dB (L), 9.7 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 22,8 dB (L), 24,2 dB (R) Difference*: -43.1 dBFS (L), -44.4 dBFS (R)

2011 MacBook Pro (stinkyfingers)
3.5 dB (L), 3.5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 24,5 dB (L), 26,2 dB (R) Difference*: -43.1 dBFS (L), -43.6 dBFS (R)

RME Fireface 800
genelec79: 0.3 dB (L), 0.3 dB (R) Corr Depth: 22,3 dB (L), 23,9 dB (R) Difference*: -42.6 dBFS (R), -44.1 dBFS (L)
-10 dBV outputs to low gain inputs (syns): 15,547dB (L), 15,601dB (R)..Corr Depth: 14,5 dB (L), 15,9 dB (R) Difference: -31.9 dBFS (L), -31.6 dBFS (R)
mudseason: 0.6 dB (L), 0.5 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 22,4 dB (L), 23,8 dB (R), Difference*: -42.8 dBFS (L), -44.0 dBFS (R)

MOTU Traveler MK1 (sinebox)
2.0 dB (L), 2.1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 22,2 dB (L), 23,9 dB (R) Difference*: -42.6 dBFS (L), -44.1 dBFS (R)

Audient iD 14 (sm5)
8.8 dB (L), 9.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 22,2 dB (L), 23,7 dB (R) Difference*: -42.6 dBFS (L), -43.9 dBFS (R)

MOTU Traveler MK1 with Black Lion Mod (antichef)
2,0 dB (L), 2,0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 21,4 dB (L), 23,0 dB (R) Difference*: -41.8 dBFS (L), -43.2 dBFS (R)

MOTU UltraLite (dheming)
0.6 dB (L), 0.5 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 21,1 dB (L), 22,6 dB (R) Difference*: -41.6 dBFS (L), -42.8 dBFS (R)

Antelope Zen Studio (Chris Perra)
Gain 0: 16.9 dB (L), 16.8 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 21,1 dB (L), 22,7 dB (R) Difference*: -41.6 dBFS (L), -42.9 dBFS (R)
Gain 15: 2.2 dB (L), 1.2 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 20,1 dB (L), 22,5 dB (R) Difference*: -41.5 dBFS (L), -42.9 dBFS (R)

Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 (eugtone)
0.9 dB (L), 1.3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 21,9 dB (L), 23,1 dB (R) Difference*: -41.4 dBFS (L), -41.8 dBFS (R)

Avid Mbox 3 (Coucou)
5,1 dB (L), 5,1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 21,8 dB (L), 23,6 dB (R) Difference*: -41.3 dBFS (L), -42.0 dBFS (R)

Steinberg UR824 (kegn51)
-0.4 (L), 0.2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 20,5 dB (L), 22,2 dB (R) Difference*: -41.0 dBFS (L), -42.3 dBFS (R)

Sony Vaio [email protected] (kegn51)
2.2 dB (L), 2.3 dB (R) Corr Depth: 20,4 dB (L), 22,0 dB (R) Difference*: -40.9 dBFS (L) , -42.7 dBFS (R)

SL Alpha-Link AX (eugtone)
0.3 dB (L), 0.4 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 20,2 dB (L), 21,8 dB (R) Difference*: -40.6 dBFS (L), -42.0 dBFS (R)

Tascam DA-3000 (dheming)
0,5 dB (L), 0,4 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 22,5 dB (L), 24,0 dB (R) Difference: -40.5 dBFS (L), -40.7 dBFS (R)

Apogee Duet2 (isma)
1.0 dB (L), 1.0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 19,8 dB (L), 21,4 dB (R) Difference*: -40.2 dBFS (L) -41.6 dBFS (R)

Yamaha Steinberg MR816X (didier.brest)
1.1 dB (L), 0.5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 19,1 dB (L), 21,0 dB (R) Difference*: -39.9 dB (L), -41.2 dB (R)

Antelope Audio Orion (davidbayle)
0.3 dB (L), 0.2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 19,2 dB (L), 20,7 dB (R) Difference*: -39.6 dBFS (L), -40.9 dBFS (R)

MOTU 828es, 5-6 TRS out to 5-6 TRS in (sm5): 0.2 dB (L), 0.2 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 39,3 dB (L), 34,7 dB (R) Difference*: -39.6 dBFS (L), -39.6 dBFS (R)

Eventide H8000FW (jeamsler)
6.0 dB (L), 6.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 46,6 dB (L), 45,0 dB (R) Difference*: -39.6 dBFS (L), -39.6 dBFS (R)

Roland UA-25 (bezen4uk)
3.9 dB (L), 3.5 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 18,9 dB (L), 20,3 dB (R) Difference*: -39.3 dBFS (L), -40.5 dBFS (R)

Tascam US-144MKII (capn357)
0,2 dB (L), 0,4 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 18,6 dB (L), 20,2 dB (R) Difference*: -39.0 dBFS (L), -40.4 dBFS (R)

RME Fireface UFX (didier.brest)
XLR outputs 1-2 to TRS inputs 3-4: 0.8 dB (L), 0.7 dB (R) Corr Depth: 18,5 dB (L), 20,1 dB (R) Difference*: -39.0 dBFS (L), -40.3 dBFS (R)
TRS outputs 5-6 to TRS inputs 3-4: 0,7 dB (L), 0,7 dB (R) Corr Depth: 18,4 dB (L), 20,1 dB (R) Difference*: -38,8 dBFS (L), -40,3 dBFS (R)
outputs 1-2 to XLR preamp inputs 9-10: 0,5 dB (L), 0,4 dB (R) Corr Depth: 14,7 dB (L), 16,2 dB (R) Difference: -35,0 dBFS (L) -36,3 dBFS (R)

Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 DSP (CoolColJ), first 45s part disregarded
5,2 dB (L), 5,2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 20,2 dB (L), 22,0 dB (R) Difference: -38,9 dBFS (L), -39,9 dBFS (R)

Apogee PSX-100 (Winston Tones)
0.8 dB (L), 0.8 dB (R) Difference*: -38.5 dBFS (L), -39.9dBFS (R)

Focusrite Forte (Coucou)
9,9 dB (L), 9,9 dB (R) Corr Depth: 18,3 dB (L), 19,8 dB (R) Difference: -38,3 dBFS (L), -39,4 dBFS (R)

Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56, Line output to microphone input + pad (Melodeath)
0,2 dB (L), 0,2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 17,9 dB (L), 19,3 dB (R) Difference: -37,9 dBFS (L) -38,9 dBFS (R)

Digidesign 003 Rack
dheming: 0,4 dB (L), 0,5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 18,6 dB (L), 20,0 dB (R) Difference: -38.3 dBFS (L), -39.1 dBFS (R).
Shptq: 0.5 dB (L), 0,5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 18,4 dB (L), 20,2 dB (R) Difference*: -38.5 dBFS (L), -39.8 dBFS (R)

Echo AudioFire 2 (dheming)
0.6 dB (L), 0.2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 20,8 dB (L), 21,9 dB (R) Difference*: -37.8 dBFS (L), -37.9 dBFS (R)

Behringer XR18 (livebox)
9.5 dB (L), 9.7 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 16,7 dB (L), 18,3 dB (R) Difference*: -37.2 dBFS (L), -38.6 dBFS (R)

Zoom F4 (sm5):
main out in XLR 1-2: 0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 16,2 dB (L), 17,7 dB (R), Difference*: -36.6 dBFS (L), -38.0 dBFS (R)
main out in unbalanced stereo TRS 5-6 input: 5,5 dB (L), 5,6 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 15,7 dB (L), 17,3 dB (R) Difference*: -36.1 dBFS (L), -37.5 dBFS (R)
stereo TRS 3-4 out to 5-6 IN: 0,9 dB (L), 1,0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 15,7 dB (L), 17,3 dB (R) Difference*: -36.1 dBFS (L), -37.5 dBFS (R)

Aphex IN2 (_ben)
-0.3 dB (L), 0.3 dB (R) Difference*: -36.6 dBFS (L), -38.0 dBFS (R)

Roland UA-22 Duo Capture-Ex (zoreviy)
5,0 dB (L), 5,1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 18,2 dB (L), 19,7 dB (R) Difference: -36.5 dBFS (L), -36.2 dBFS (R)

Lavry Blue (Touf on Pragmatic Audio)
Modes Crystal and Narrow : 0,2 dB (L), 0,2 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 16,8 dB (L), 18,3 dB (R) Difference -36,5 dBFS (L) , -37,5 dBFS (R)
Mode Wide: Corr Depth: 16,8 dB (L), 18,3 dB (R) Difference: -36,4 dBFS (L) , -37,6 dBFS (R)

Tascam UH-7000 (sm5)
6,8 dB (L), 6,5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 15,5 dB (L), 17,1 dB (R) Difference: -35.2 dBFS (L) -36.2 dBFS (R)

Asus 11.6" laptop (kegn51)
1,3 dB (L), 1,7 dB (R) Corr Depth: 15,5 dB (L), 17,0 dB (R) Difference: -35,2 dBFS (L) , -36,2 dBFS (R)

Steinberg UR22 (jeamsler)
1.5 dB (L), 1.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 14,3 dB (L), 15,9 dB (R) Difference*: -34.7 dBFS (L), -36.1 dBFS (R)

Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 2nd Gen (Susceptor)
1.1 dB (L), 1.2 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 14,3 dB (L), 15,8 dB (R) Difference*: -34.7 dBFS (L), -36.0 dBFS (R)

Edirol FA-66 (didier.brest)
1.0 dB (L), 0.6 dB (R) Corr Depth: 15,6 dB (L), 17,1 dB (R) Difference*: -34.5 dBFS (L) -35.5 dBFS (R)

Sound Devices MixPre-10T (sm5)
x1/x2 1/8" out into 1/8" Aux in: 0.7 dB (L), 0.6 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 14,2 dB (L), 15,5 dB (R) Difference*: -33.5 dBFS (L), -33.5 dBFS (R)
L/R Mini XLR to 1/2 XLR: 0.2 dB (L), 0.5 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 8,7 dB (L), 10,3 dB (R) Difference*: -29.1 dBFS (L), -30.4 dBFS (R)

Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 (EvgenyStudio)
15,5 dB (L), 15,5 dB (R)Corr Depth: 19,3 dB (L), 23,6 dB (R) Difference*: -32,4 dBFS (L), -31,7 dBFS (R)

Line 6 POD Studio UX2 (Piux)
-0,5 dB (L), -0,4 dB (R) Corr Depth: 11,0 dB (L), 12,5 dB (R) Difference: -30.6 dBFS (L) -31.6 dBFS (R)

RME Babyface (didier.brest)
0.4 dB (L), 0.5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 9,2 dB (L), 10,8 dB (R) Difference*: -29.6 dBFS (L) -30.9 dBFS (R)



External clocking


MOTU 828 mk2 clocked by Lynx Hilo (capn357)
0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.7 dBFS (L), -58.1 dBFS (R)

MOTU 828mkII clocked by Lucid GENx192 (MusicManic)
-0.1 dB (L), -0,0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.7 dBFS (L) -58.0 dBFS (R)

Lynx Aurora 8 clocked by RME HDSPe RayDAT (cylens)
Corr Depth: 34,6 dB (L), 36,3 dB (R) Difference: -55.3 dBFS (L) -56.5 dBFS (R)

RME ADI-8 DS Mk III clocked through ADAT by RME HDSP 9652 (maartenl945)
0,2 dB (L), 0,2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 32,9 dB (L), 34,4 dB (R) Difference*: -49.9 dBFS (L), -49.9 dBFS (R)

Behringer ADA8200 clocked by RME Digiset (Chris Perra)
Gain @ 11 o'clock: 6.0 dB (L), 5.5 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 25,5 dB (L), 29,0 dB (R) Difference*: -46.6 dBFS (L), -47.7 dBFS (R)
Gain minimum: 14.7 dB (L), 15.3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 27,4 dB (L), 29,3 dB (R) Difference*: -46.7 dBFS (L), -40.2 dBFS (R)

Ferrofish A16 MK-II clocked by RME HDSPe RayDAT (ST.)
0,3 dB (L), 0,3 dB (R) Corr Depth: 26,6 dB (L), 28,2 dB (R) Difference: -46.3 dBFS (L) -47.3 dBFS (R)

Apogee Rosetta 800 clocked by Universal Audio Apollo (davidbayle)
Corr Depth: 39,7 dB (L), 41,7 dB (R) Difference: -45,9 dBFS (L), -45,8 dBFS (R)

Apogee Rosetta 800 clocked by Antelope Orion (davidbayle)
Corr Depth: 39,6 dB (L), 41,6 dB (R) Difference: -45,9 dBFS (L), -45,8 dBFS (R)

Echo Audiofire 8 with ADAT clocked by RME HDSP 9632 (schtim)
Corr Depth: 25.9 dB (L), 27.5 dB (R) Difference: -45.5 dBFS (L) -46.5 dBFS (R)

M-Audio Profire2626 clocked by RME HDSPe RayDAT (cylens)
Corr Depth: 24,4 dB (L), 25,9 dB (R) Difference: -44.1 dBFS (L) -45.0 dBFS (R)

M-Audio Profire2626 clocked by Lynx Aurora8 (cylens)
Corr Depth: 24,4 dB (L), 25,9 dB (R) Difference: -44.0 dBFS (L) -44.9 dBFS (R)

Behringer ADA8000 clocked by RME Fireface UFX (Krisprolls on Pragmatic Audio)
minimum gain : 13,4 dB (L), 13,4 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 24,4 dB (L), 25,9 dB (R) Diff. -44,0 dBFS (L) , -45,3 dBFS (R)
gain @ 4 : 1,2 dB (L), 1,4 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 23,9 dB (L), 25,5 dB (R) Diff. -42,3 dBFS (L) , -44,5 dBFS (R)

RME Octamic XTC clocked by RME Fireface UFX (Loicm on Pragmatic Audio) - Unbalanced phone output to
unbalanced instrument inputs 5-6, 13 dB gain: 1,0 dB (L), 1,0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 22,8 dB (L), 24,4 dB (R) Difference*: -43.3 dBFS (L), -44.6 dBFS (R)
balanced line inputs 1-2, 10 dB gain: 4,5 dB (L), 4,5 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 19,4 dB (L), 21,0 dB (R) Difference*: -39.8 dBFS (L), -41.2 dBFS (R)

Universal Audio Apollo clocked by Apogee Rosetta (davidbayle)
Corr Depth: 26,5 dB (L), 28,0 dB (R) Difference: -42,7 dBFS (L), -43,0 dBFS (R)

Universal Audio Apollo clocked by Antelope Orion (davidbayle)
Corr Depth: 26,5 dB (L), 28,0 dB (R) Difference: -42,7 dBFS (L), -43,0 dBFS (R)

RME Fireface 800 clocked by Yamaha 02R (genelec79)
Corr Depth: 22,3 dB (L), 23,9 dB (R) Difference: -41,9 dBFS (L), -43,0 dBFS (R)

Motu Traveler MK1 clocked by Lynx Aurora 16 or Black Lion Micro Clock mk1 (antichef)
2,0 dB (L), 2,0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 21,4 dB (L), 23,0 dB (R) Difference: -41.1 dBFS (L), -42.1 dBFS (R)


Separate converters

Synchronised mode ('master' indicates which converter delivers the master clock when the information is available.)

Forssell MDAC-4 ----> Focusrite Blue 245 master, (funkakuchi on Pragmatic Audio = funka on Gearslutz)
Focusrite sensitivity 0 dBFS = 16 dBu
0,1 dB (L), 0,0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 64.7 dB (L), 65.7 dB (R) Difference: -77.1 dBFS (L) -78.1 dBFS (R)
Focusrite sensitivity 0 dBFS = 20 dBu, serial number = 10
4.0 dB (L), 4.0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 66.9 dB (L), 69.8 dB (R) Difference*: -81.2 dBFS (L) -81.1 dBFS (R)
Focusrite sensitivity 0 dBFS = 20 dBu, serial number = 53
3.9 dB (L) 4.0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 69,4 dB (L), 71,5 dB (R) Difference*: -80.1 dB (L), -80.1 dB (R)

SPL Madison ---> Texas Instrument PCM4222 Evaluation Module master (living sounds) . Details of the clocking., DC filter off
0,2 dB (L), 0,2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 78,7 dB (L), 81,2 dB (R) Difference*: -80.1 dBFS, -80.1 dBFS

SPL Madison ---> Focusrite Blue 245 master (funkakuchi on Pragmatic Audio)
4.0 dB (L), 4.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 68,5 dB (L), 68,7 dB (R) Difference*: -79.0 dBFS (L), -79.5 dBFS (R)

MSB Platinum IV Plus DAC ---> MSB Studio ADC master (DUJS)
4,9 dB (L), 4,9 dB (R) Corr Depth: 62,8 dB (L), 63,4 dB (R) Difference: -77,7 dBFS (L), -77,4 dBFS (R)

ReQuest Audio, The Beast DAC master ---> MSB Platinum Studio ADC (DUJS)
Corr Depth: 62,0 dB (L), 63,4 dB (R) Difference: -76,9 dBFS (L), -76,3 dBFS (R)

Swissonic DA24 MkII ---> Texas Instrument PCM4222 Evaluation Module master (living sounds). DC filter off.
0,1 dB (L), 0,1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 82,6 dB (L), 85,5 dB (R) Difference*: -73.0 dBFS (L), -73.8 dBFS (R)

ESI [email protected] XTe DAC ---> MSB Studio ADC master (DUJS)
Corr Depth: 46,0 dB (L), 48,0 dB (R) Difference: -65,3 dBFS (L), -66,7 dBFS (R)

Forssell MADA-2 ---> Antelope Pure2 (MattGray)
0.0 dB (L), 0.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.8 dBFS (L), -58.2 dBFS (R)

Ross Martin AES EIGHT 1794A DAC ---> Metric Halo ULN8 master (Actualsizeaudio)
-0.1 dB (L), -0,3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.8 dBFS (L), -58.2 dBFS (R)

Motu 24Ao ---> Antelope Pure2 master (leolycra)
-0.2 dB (L), -0.2 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference*: -56.8 dBFS (L), -58.1 dBFS (R)

MOTU 828mk2 USB ---> MOTU 828mk2 master (capn357)
0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,3 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference: -56.7 dBFS (L), -58.1 dBFS (R)

Forssell MADA-2 2-a ---> Texas Instrument PCM4222 Evaluation Module master (Mikathechou): 0.7 dB (L), 0.7 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,1 dB (L), 37,7 dB (R) Difference*: -56.5 dBFS (L), -57.9 dBFS (R)

Swissonic DA24 MkII ---> Black Lion Audio Sparrow mkII (living sounds)
0,6 dB (L), 0,6 dB (R) Corr Depth: 36,0 dB (L), 37,6 dB (R) Difference*: -56.4 dBFS (L) , -57.8 dBFS (R)

Benchmark DAC2 HGC ---> Mytek Stereo 192 ADC master (dheming)
1,1 dB (L), 1,0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 35,5 dB (L), 37,0 dB (R) Difference: -55,2 dBFS (L), -56,3 dBFS (R)

Metric Halo LIO-8 ---> Burl B2 Bomber ADC (Antoine Fabi)
LIO-8 or B2 WC master, -14 dB / -16 dB B2 input: 1,8 dB / 3,8 dB (L), 1,8 / 3,8 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 35,3 dB (L), 36,8 dB (R), Difference: -54.8 dBFS (L), -55,7 dBFS (R), Difference* (B2 WC master): -55.7 dBFS (L), -57.0 dBFS (R)
B2 AES master, -14 dB / -16 dB B2 input: 1,8 dB / 3,8 dB (L), 1,8 / 3,8 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 35,3 dB (L), 36,8 dB (R) Difference: -54.8 dBFS (L), -55,6 dBFS (R)

Genex GXD8 ---> Genex GXA8 (Antoine Fabi)
0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 35,1 dB (L), 36,3 dB (R) Difference*: -55.7 dBFS (L), -55.7 dBFS (R)

RME Fireface 400 ---> MOTU 828mkII, 2 tests: RME or MOTU clock (MusicManic)
5,1 dB (L), 5,2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 35,1 dB (L), 36,7 dB (R) Difference: -54.7 dBFS (L), -55.7dBFS (R)

Forssell MDAC-4 ---> Studer D19 master (funkakuchi on Pragmatic Audio)
0,1 dB (L), 0,1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 34,3 dB (L), 36,2 dB (R) Difference: -53.9 dBFS (L), -55.3 dBFS (R)

Lynx Aurora 16 ---> Focusrite Blue 245 master (funkakuchi on Pragamatic Audio)
0,04 dB (L), 0,02 dB (R) Corr Depth: 63,4 dB (L), 62,2 dB (R) Difference*: -53.4 dBFS(L) -52.5 dBFS(R)

Lynx Aurora ---> Texas Instrument PCM4222 Evaluation Module master
living sounds, DC filter off ?.
Synchro lock off: 0.1 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 65,6 dB (L), 63,8 dB (R) Difference*: -53.4 dBFS (L), -52.5 dBFS (R)
Synchro lock on: 0.311 dB (L), 0.317 dB (R) Difference*: -53.4 dBFS (L), -52.5 dBFS (R)
Mikathechou: 1.1 dB (L), 1.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,1 dB (L), 37,5 dB (R) Difference*: -51.2 dBFS (L), -50.9 dBFS (R)

Lynx Hilo master ---> MOTU 828mk2 USB (capn357)
2.3 dB (L), 2.3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,1 dB (L), 37,5 dB (R) Difference*: -51.2 dBFS (L), -50.8 dBFS (R)

MOTU 828 mk2 ---> Lynx Hilo master (capn357)
1.6 dB (L), 1.6 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 42,4 dB (L), 44,5 dB (R) Difference*: -51.2 dBFS (L), -50.2 dBFS (R)

Apogee DA-16X ---> Apogee AD-16X (Todd Loomis)
2.4 dB (L), 2.4 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 39,4 dB (L), 41,4 dB (R) Difference*: -50.7 dBFS (L), -49.9 dBFS (R)

Ross Martin Audio AES8 DAC to Ross Martin Audio PCM4222ADC master (Actualsizeaudio)
2.4 dB (L), 2.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 29,3 dB (L), 30,7 dB (R) Difference*: -49.7 dBFS (L), -50.9 dBFS (R)

Motu 24Ao ---> Lynx Aurora 8 (leolycra)
Motu master: -0.2 dB (L), -0.2 dB (R) Corr Depth: 34,7 dB (L), 36,6 dB (R) Difference: -46.3 dBFS (L), -46.1 dBFS (R) Difference*: -50.2 dBFS (L), -49.7 dBFS (R)
Lynx master: -0,2 dB (L), -0,2 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 34,7 dB (L), 36,6 dB (R) Difference: -46.3 dBFS (L), -46.1 dBFS (R)

Antelope Pure2 ---> Forssell MADA-2 (MattGray)
0.0 dB (L), 0.0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 29.7 dB (L), 31.3 dB (R) Difference*: -50.1 dBFS (L), -51.5 dBFS (R)

Lavry DA924 ---> Lavry AD122-96MkII clocked by Antelope Isochrone Trinity + Antelope Isochrone 10M (Winston Tones)
0,0 dB (L), 0,0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 29,6 dB (L), 31,1 dB (R) Difference*: -50.0 dBFS (L), -51.3 dBFS (R)

Forssell MDAC-4 ---> Forssell MADC-2 (first version) master (funkakuchi on Pragmatic Audio)
0,5dB (L), 0,5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 29,6 dB (L), 31,1 dB (R) Difference: -49,2 dB (L), -50,3 dB (R)

Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 ---> MOTU 828mkII, 2 tests: Focusrite or MOTU clock (MusicManic)
2,4 dB (L), 2,4 dB (R) Corr Depth: 34,2 dB (L), 36,0 dB (R) Difference: -46.6 dBFS (L), -46.6dBFS (R)

Audient iD22 ---> Behringer ADA8200 master (Hardtailed)
2,0 dB (L), 2,5 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 28,4 dB (L), 30,6 dB (R) Difference: -46.5 dBFS (L), -48.1 dBFS (R)

Forssell MADA-2 --->_Aurora_16-VT master (Mikathechou): 1.0 dB (L), 1.0 dB (R) Corr Depth: 32,7 dB (L), 34,5 dB (R) Difference: -46.2 dBFS (L), -46.2 dBFS (R), Difference*: -49.6 dBFS (L) -49.4 dBFS (R)

Tascaml UH-7000 ---> Lynx Hilo master (sm5)
1,0 dB (L), 1,0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 36,7 dB (L), 38,5 dB (R) Difference: -46.2 dBFS (L), -45.9 dBFS (R)

Audient iD 14 ---> Lynx Hilo (sm5)
5.8 dB (L), 5.8 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 25,4 dB (L), 27,1 dB (R) Difference: -45.3 dBFS (L), -46.2 dBFS (R)

Emotiva XDA-1 ---> Prism Lyra 1 (capn357)
0,0 dB (L), 0,0 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 25,8 dB (L), 27,7 dB (R) Difference: -44.7 dBFS (L), -45.5 dBFS (R)


Lynx Aurora 16-VT --->_Forssell MADA-2 master (Mikathechou)

1.1 dB (L), 1,1 dB (R) Corr Depth: 29,6 dB (L), 31,1 dB (R) Difference: -44.3 dBFS (L), -44.4 dBFS (R) Difference*: -48.0 dBFS (L), -48.3 dBFS (R)


MOTU 828mkII ---> RME Fireface 400, 2 tests: MOTU or RME clock (MusicManic)
0,3 dB (L), 0,5 dB (R) Corr Depth: 24,5 dB (L), 26,3 dB (R) Difference: -44.1 dBFS (L), -45.3dBFS (R)

Behringer ADA8200 ---> Audient iD22 master (Hardtailed)
2,8 dB (L), 2,9 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 28,5 dB (L), 30,1 dB (R) Difference: -42.9 dBFS (L), -42.8 dBFS (R)

MOTU 828mkII ---> Focusrite Saffire PRO 40, 2 tests: MOTU / Focusrite clock (MusicManic)
1,3 dB (L), 1,8 dB (R)Corr Depth: 25,9 dB / 25,8 (L), 29,9 dB (R) Difference: -42.2 / -42.1 dBFS (L), -44.4dBFS (R)

Tascam-DA3000 ---> Mytek Stereo 192 ADC master (dheming)
3,4 dB (L), 3,3 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 27,0 dB (L), 28,3 dB (R) Difference: -39.9 dBFS (L), -39.4 dBFS (R)

Digidesign Rack ---> Mytek Stereo 192 ADC master (dheming)
0,7 dB (L), 0,7 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 17,7 dB (L), 19,0 dB (R) Difference: -38.1 dBFS (L), -39.1 dBFS (R)

Metric Halo ULN8 DAC to Ross Martin Audio PCM4222ADC (Actualsizeaudio)
ADC master or DAC master: 0.0 dB (L), 0.1 dB (R)..Corr Depth: 17,1 dB (L), 18,5 dB (R) Difference*: -37.5 dBFS (L), -38.7 dBFS (R)

Atoll DAC200 --> RME Babyface master (didier.brest)
Corr Depth: 10,1 dB (L), 11,9 dB (R) Difference: -30,0 dBFS (L) -31.3 dBFS (R)

RME Babyface --> RME Fireface 400 (didier.brest)
Corr Depth: 16,6 dB (L), 18,4 dB (R) Difference: -29,4 dBFS (L), -28,8 dBFS (R)

Benchmark DAC1 phone output ---> Echo Audiofire 4 (david1103)
Corr Depth: 10,4 dB (L), 10,2 dB (R) Difference: -22,6 dBFS (L), -23,1 dBFS (R)

Unsynchronized mode. The DA and AD converters run each on its own clock. Measurement performed with sample rate drift correction activated in Audio DiffMaker and limited to the first half of the sample. Because the RMS level of this first half is 1 dB lower than the RMS level of the full-size sample, one must increase the difference RMS level figures by 1 dB for comparison with the synchronized mode.

Lynx Aurora ---> Texas Instrument PCM4222 Evaluation Module (living sounds). DC filter off.
Aurora clock at 44.1 kHz: 0.3 dB (L), 0.3 dB (R), rate adj=-0,0749 ppm. Corr Depth: 61,8 dB (L), 59,3 dB (R) Difference*: -54.8 dBFS (L), -53.9 dBFS (R)
Aurora clock at 88.2 kHz: 0.3 dB (L), 0.3 dB (R). rate adj=1,0352 ppm.Corr Depth: 65,9 dB (L), 69,9 dB (R) Difference*: -65.4 dBFS (L), -66.2 dBFS (R)

Benchmark DAC2 HGC ---> Mytek Stereo 192 ADC (dheming)
4,1 dB (L), 4,1 dB (R). rate adj=4,4143 ppm.Corr Depth: 36,1 dB (L), 38,1 dB (R) Difference: -56.9 dBFS (L), -58.2 dBFS (R)

Forssell MDAC-4 ---> Alesis Masterlink ML-9600 (funkakuchi on Pragmatic Audio)
1,1 dB (L), 1,2 dB (R). rate adj=7,8413 ppm.Corr Depth: 34,6 dB (L), 36,2 dB (R) Difference: -55.3 dBFS (L), -56.5 dBFS (R)

Lavry DA11 ---> Benchmark ADC1 (non USB, 2005) ---> Tascam US-366 (usernaim)
4,2 dB (L), 3,7 dB (R). rate adj=1,2144 ppm.Corr Depth: 33,3 dB (L), 38,7 dB (R) Difference: -52.2 dBFS (L), -57.8 dBFS (R)

Musical Fidelity V-Link ---> Benchmark DAC1 ---> TC Electronic Konnekt 8 (usernaim)
5,4 dB (L), 4,9 dB (R). rate adj=-1,5532 ppm.Corr Depth: 30,1 dB (L), 32,2 dB (R) Difference: -50.8 dBFS (L), -52.1 dBFS (R)

BenchmarkDAC2 HGC ---> Digidesign Rack (dheming)
5,5 dB (L), 5,5 dB (R). Rate adjustment unnecessary.Corr Depth: 35,5 dB (L), 37,9 dB (R) Difference: -49.4 dBFS (L), -49.2 dBFS (R)

Akai Z8 ---> E-MU 1212M (tiberius)
2,7 dB (L), 3,1 dB (R). rate adj=2,7931 ppm.Corr Depth: 27,3 dB (L), 29,7 dB (R) Difference: -47.9 dBFS (L), -49.6 dBFS (R)
JDS Labs ODAC ---> Echo AudioFire 4 (syns)
10,2 dB (L), 10,2 dB (R). rate adj=8,1413 ppm.Corr Depth: 26,5 dB (L), 28,6 dB (R) Difference: -47.2 dBFS (L), -48.6 dBFS (R)

MOTU Ultralite ---> Mytek Stereo 192 ADC (dheming)

1,5 dB (L), 1,5 dB (R). rate adj=0,0474 ppm.Corr Depth: 36,8 dB (L), 39,1 dB (R) Difference*: -46.9 dBFS (L), -46.2 dBFS (R)

ATOLL DAC 200 --> RME Fireface UFX (didier.brest)
2,3 dB (L), 2,4 dB (R). rate adj=8,8289 ppm.Corr Depth: 23,2 dB (L), 25,3 dB (R) Difference: -44,0 dBFS (L), -45,4 dBFS (R)

JDS Labs ODAC ---> RME Fireface 800 (syns)
5,3 dB (L), 5,3 dB (R). rate adj=-1,5467 ppm.Corr Depth: 23,2 dB (L), 25,5 dB (R) Difference: -43.8 dBFS (L), -45.3 dBFS (R)

Benchmark DAC2 HGC ---> Marantz PMD661 (dheming)
4,1 dB (L), 4,5 dB (R). rate adj=14,8525 ppm.Corr Depth: 23,0 dB (L), 25,1 dB (R) Difference: -43.8 dBFS (L), -45.2 dBFS (R)

Tascam DA-3000 ---> Mytek Stereo 192 ADC (dheming)
3,4 dB (L), 3,3 dB (R). rate adj=0,0426 ppm.Corr Depth: 27,7 dB (L), 29,3 dB (R) Difference*: -42.8 dBFS (L), -42.7 dBFS (R)

Benchmark DAC2 HGC ---> Tascam DA-3000 (dheming)
3,1 dB (L), 3,0 dB (R). rate adj=0,0750 ppm.Corr Depth: 24,0 dB (L), 25,9 dB (R) Difference: -42.5 dBFS (L), -43.0 dBFS (R)

Benchmark DAC2 HGC ---> MOTU UltraLite (dheming)
5,1 dB (L), 5,0 dB (R). rate adj=0,0102 ppm.Corr Depth: 21,7 dB (L), 23,6 dB (R) Difference: -42.3 dBFS (L), -43.6 dBFS (R)

Benchmark DAC2 HGC ---> (dheming)
8,3 dB (L), 8,2 dB (R). rate adj=-8,6552 ppm.Corr Depth: 16,4 dB (L), 18,5 dB (R) Difference: -36.9 dBFS (L), -38.3 dBFS (R)

ATOLL DAC 200 --> RME Babyface (didier.brest)
Rate adj=-4,3193 ppm.Corr Depth: 10,8 dB (L), 13,0 dB (R) Difference: -31,5 dBFS (L), -33,1 dBFS

For contributing to this test :
- download the test 2 x 44 kHz x 24 bit wav file (31 Mb),
- cable link the 2 DAC outputs to 2 ADC inputs,
- play back the test file to the DAC outputs and record from the ADC inputs,
- upload to mediafire or any other file sharing site the 2 x 44 kHz x 24 bit wav file from this recording and
- provide the download link here with information about ADC and DAC identities.
Your contribution is welcome even if your converter is already in the above list.
Thank you !

Last edited by didier.brest; 2 weeks ago at 08:17 AM..
Old 8th October 2018
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Thanks for this test!

I would like to see the new Apollo X interfaces tested. Anyone?
Old 9th October 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coucou View Post
Thanks for this test!

I would like to see the new Apollo X interfaces tested. Anyone?
UA ApolloX16 loopback,
Line out 1-2 ---> Line in 1-2,
mogami 2932 D-Sub cable

Apollo X16 loopback
Old 4 weeks ago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Philip Marinelis View Post
UA ApolloX16 loopback,
Line out 1-2 ---> Line in 1-2,
mogami 2932 D-Sub cable

Apollo X16 loopback
ADM: 36,53usec, 0,414dB (L), 0,408dB (R)..Corr Depth: 26,7 dB (L), 28,3 dB (R) Difference: -41.1 dBFS (L), -42.3 dBFS (R)
Matlab: 30.24 µs, 0.3954 dB (L), 0.3976 dB (R) Difference: -42.4 dBFS (L), -43.5 dBFS (R)

To be added to the next issue of the list of results.
Old 4 weeks ago
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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Philip Marinelis View Post
UA ApolloX16 loopback,
Line out 1-2 ---> Line in 1-2,
mogami 2932 D-Sub cable

Apollo X16 loopback
ADM: 36,53usec, 0,414dB (L), 0,408dB (R)..Corr Depth: 26,7 dB (L), 28,3 dB (R) Difference: -41.1 dBFS (L), -42.3 dBFS (R)
Matlab: 30.24 µs, 0.3954 dB (L), 0.3976 dB (R) Difference: -42.4 dBFS (L), -43.5 dBFS (R)

To be added to the next issue of the list of results.
So this scores lower than the Apollo 16 mkII (antichef)? I was really hoping UA would put out an Apollo on par with the Symphony or better. If you put any stock in this kind of test, UA seems to have taken a step back?
Old 4 weeks ago
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Focusrite Clarett 4 Pre Thunderbolt. Line out 1-2 to input 1-2 Vovox balanced cable 30cm.

Focusrite Clarett 4 Pre Loopback

Thanks for the test!

Last edited by Coucou; 4 weeks ago at 12:57 AM..
Old 4 weeks ago
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Originally Posted by didier.brest View Post
ADM: 36,53usec, 0,414dB (L), 0,408dB (R)..Corr Depth: 26,7 dB (L), 28,3 dB (R) Difference: -41.1 dBFS (L), -42.3 dBFS (R)
Matlab: 30.24 µs, 0.3954 dB (L), 0.3976 dB (R) Difference: -42.4 dBFS (L), -43.5 dBFS (R)

To be added to the next issue of the list of results.

Quote:
Originally Posted by davidbayles View Post
So this scores lower than the Apollo 16 mkII (antichef)? I was really hoping UA would put out an Apollo on par with the Symphony or better. If you put any stock in this kind of test, UA seems to have taken a step back?
It makes me wonder too. I also have an apollo 8 duo blackface and to me, in the studio, the X16 loopback sounds better but it might be expectation bias or the fact that I hear improvement where I thought the mkii was lacking and disregard any potential "colour" added? .
Unless, something is wrong with my setup and both are performing below their specs right now.

I'm posting my apollo 8 duo mkii loopback. If it scores much lower than the Universal audio Apollo 8 Quad (kmr) then I need to look at my setup. If not, then I need to look up my hearing

UA Apollo 8 Duo mkii link:
Apollo mkii loopback
Old 4 weeks ago
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On yesterday there was here a post from sm5. Why has it disappeared ?
Old 4 weeks ago
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No idea!

Either I somehow accidentally deleted it or there's some bug where it disappeared? I can't remember what I wrote specifically but one of the questions was:

There's something odd with the MOTU 828ES results:
All the results in this entire test such as my old lynx Hilo one the Corr. Depth are always lower than the Difference* Figures by a large amount ... The Hilo and 10T and Zoom F4 and Id14 being around 17-20dB difference. The only one with nearly the same Corr.Depth and Difference* Figures is the 828ES. This is out of looking at all the tests on here (maybe I'm missing one?) It's the only test where if one measured by Corr. Depth it would be in a way different position. All the rest as far as I can tell match up pretty much to where they should be either Corr. Depth or Difference*
Maybe I tested it wrong? It's just the odd one out that I can't figure out what's up with it as to why it would have such a different result from the rest.

(I tried RMAA test too with same MOTU interface and cables: Not saying either test is better than the other but just for purposes of knowledge - more information may be of use of what might be going on with the 828ES results here.)
MOTU XLR out to 1/2 TRS in. (the TRS 5/6 Out to TRS 5/6 In is like 1db DR lower but pretty much similar otherwise - all of the TRS actually)
Frequency response (from 40 Hz to 15 kHz), dB
+0.04, -0.12
Noise level, dB (A)
-119.3
Dynamic range, dB (A)
118.4
THD, %
0.00023
THD + Noise, dB (A)
-106.3
IMD + Noise, %
0.00071
Stereo crosstalk, dB
-117.0
IMD at 10 kHz, %
0.00111

The Graphs I have but I can't seem to upload pics on here :p

Here's the 10T (XLR OUT TO TO XLR IN)
Frequency response (from 40 Hz to 15 kHz), dB
+0.07, -0.19
Noise level, dB (A)
-109.2
Dynamic range, dB (A)
109.2
THD, %
0.00578
THD + Noise, dB (A)
-82.5
IMD + Noise, %
0.110
Stereo crosstalk, dB
-104.3
IMD at 10 kHz, %
0.019


One thing to note is the DR/Noise level for the 10T is only 91-95 vs 109
when using the 1/8" x1x2 to 1/8" in ... so this measurement shows the XLR to XLR is better. But the Diffmaker result shows the XLR is the worse performing one.
(Here's random link to Lynx Aurora (N) using same test: RightMark Audio Analyzer test : Lynx Aurora (n)
Which shows the 828es at least in this test compares pretty close if not better in some specs. There's probably lots of variables but yeah - more info seems good?


What does all this mean>? I have no idea :p

Anyways - thanks for the good thread/ and it's great to see all the fellow people who are also interested in AD/DA performance on here!
Old 4 weeks ago
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Quote:
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All the results in this entire test such as my old lynx Hilo one the Corr. Depth are always lower than the Difference* Figures by a large amount ... The Hilo and 10T and Zoom F4 and Id14 being around 17-20dB difference.
Corr. depth figure delivered by ADM is a kind of null depth. The true null depth expressed in dB equals the level of the original minus the level of the "null", which is the difference between the original and the time-aligned and gain-corrected copy:

true null depth in dB = level of the original in dBFS - level of the difference in dBFS

Level of the original here is about -17 dBFS. Then, for example, -41 dBFS difference corresponds to -17 - (-41) = 24 dB null depth. But this relation is only an approximate for the special null depth delivered by ADM, the exact definition of which I do not know. This approximate should be better for the Difference figures, related to the difference wav file delivered by ADM, than for the Difference* figures related to another difference file generated in Matlab (see for instance following post).

RMAA evaluates low-level components of the difference (noise, non linear distortion, stereo crosstalk). Most part of the differece may be due to linear distortion as claimed by some members. Measuring how flat is the magnitude of the frequency response, as done by RMAA, is not sufficient for evaluating this distortion. The phase of the frequency response may be more important.
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Focusrite Clarett 4 Pre Thunderbolt. Line out 1-2 to input 1-2 Vovox balanced cable 30cm.

Focusrite Clarett 4 Pre Loopback
ADM: 135,6usec, -0,721dB (L), -0,794dB (R)..Corr Depth: 24,2 dB (L), 25,7 dB (R) Difference: -41.9 dBFS (L), -43.0 dBFS (R)
Matlab: 129.67 µs, -0.7303 dB (L), -0.8003 dB (R) Difference: -43.4 dBFS (L), -44.6 dBFS (R)

To be added to the next issue of the list of results.
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UA Apollo 8 Duo mkii link:
Apollo mkii loopback
parameters: -1sec, 0,059dB (L), 0,058dB (R)..Corr Depth: 30,2 dB (L), 31,8 dB (R) Difference: -44.6 dBFS (L), -45.9 dBFS (R)
Matlab: -1.00000399 s, 0.0514 dB (L), 0.0530 dB (R) Difference: -46.3 dBFS (L), -47.4 dBFS (R)

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So this scores lower than the Apollo 16 mkII (antichef)? I was really hoping UA would put out an Apollo on par with the Symphony or better.
It almost scored as well as the two hundred dollar Behringer ADA8200.
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Antelope Discrete 4

Monitor outs to inputs 3-4 Vovox balanced cable 30 cm

Antelope Discrete 4 Loopback
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@ didier.brest

Do you mind testing my Impact Twin again?. I see mine performed much worse than another one listed. I guess I had used the preamp inputs so that this bad performance... This is from Monitor Out to Line In 1-2 Vovox Cables balanced.

TC Impact Twin LoopBack
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ADM: -373,9msec, 0,275dB (L), 0,264dB (R)..Corr Depth: 31,0 dB (L), 32,6 dB (R) Difference: -46.7 dBFS (L), -40.0 dBFS (R)
Matlab: -373.92193 ms, 0.2695 dB (L), 0.2619 dB (R) Difference: -48.2 dBFS (L), -49.3 dBFS (R)


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I see mine performed much worse than another one listed.
I don't know why AndG's test (2011) is 3 dB better than jeamsler's one.

Most part of the discrepancy between Difference figures for the difference file from ADM for you Impact Twin and Difference* figures from Matlab for jeamsler's one comes from Matlab computation being more accurate. Matlab result for your test done 5 years ago: -0.0568 dB (L), -0.0118 dB (R) Difference*: -49.5 dBFS (L), -50.5 dBFS (R)

For your new test of (supposedly) the same unit TC Impact Twin LoopBack:
ADM: -502,3msec, -1,219 dB (L), -1,206dB (R)..Corr Depth: 28,7 dB (L), 30,3 dB (R) Difference: -48,4 dBFS (L), -49,2 dBFS (R)
Matlab: -502.30969 ms, -1.2197 dB (L), -1.2055 dB (R) Difference*: -49.2 dBFS (L), -50.3 dBFS (R)

Matlab result for ben's unit tested in 2011: -4.70423 ms, -0.4876 dB (L), 0.0244 dB (R) Difference*: -49.6 dBFS (L), -50.9 dBFS (R)

I am going to keep your 2013 test and replace the Difference figures by the Difference* figures for you test and ben's one.

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Yes it´s the same TC unit.

What strikes me the most is that I was expecting the Discrete 4 to be much worse than the Impact Twin. From a subjective point of view, playing Pianoteq the difference in the DAC is huge in favor of the TC unit. So having both similar Matlab results makes me conclude that the Impact Twin has a great DAC and a poorer ADC whereas the Discrete 4 has great ADC and poor DAC.

I will post a loopback using both converters. Thanks for the test!!
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TC Impact Twin to Antelope Discrete 4 Loopback


TC Impact Twin to Clarett 4 Loopback


The Antelope file is around 6dB quieter than the original, whereas the Clarett is around 12dB quieter... Don't know if it can affect the test results, and if so to which scale... It was running the Monitor outputs at full volume into Line inputs.

Both units running on internal clock.
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According to this test the old Motu boxes are as good as the Top converters from Lynx and Antelope...

Anyone having used them both from a pure subjective point of view can confirm that? I am being tempted to throw in 150€ just to try it...
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Both units running on internal clock.
Then both these tests are in unsynchronized mode. I had to use the sampling rate correction in ADM, limited to the first half of the sample.

TC Impact Twin to Antelope Discrete 4 Loopback: -499,7msec, 5,914dB (L), 5,945dB (R). rate adj=4,9685 ppm.Corr Depth: 32,9 dB (L), 34,9 dB (R) Difference: -50.0 dBFS (L), -51.4 dBFS (R)


TC Impact Twin to Clarett 4 Loopback: -385,5usec, 11,641dB (L), 11,575dB (R). rate adj=-7,4296 ppm.Corr Depth: 26,9 dB (L), 23,2 dB (R) Difference: -23.9 dBFS (L), -22.6 dBFS (R)


Obviously ADM measurement of the second test went wrong because Difference is expected to be close to -18 - Corr. Depth . I do not know why. I don't have Matlab code for unsynchronised mode.
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