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Retro Sta-Level, CL1b, MC77, Distressor EL8 - processed files Dynamics Processors (HW)
Old 8th April 2010
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Retro Sta-Level, CL1b, MC77, Distressor EL8 - processed files

I wanted to share some processed files I made by running thru a bunch of compressors I've had on hand over the past year or two.

DOWNLOAD ALL FILES FROM THIS LINK.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mw62pqr0s3...Files.zip?dl=0

1) Retro Sta-Level (attack time set to double for all examples)
2) Retro 176 (added Aug. 8, 2012)
3) TubeTech CL1B
4) Purple Audio MC77
5) Purple Audio Action (added Nov. 28, 2011)
6) Universal Audio 1176 (reissue)
7) Universal Audio 6176 (same setting as MC77 & 1176 even tho panel markings are different)
8) Urei 1176LN Revision F (added june 16, 2012)
9) Urei 1176 Blue Stripe Rev B (restored, calibrated for stock factory spec)
10) CAPI FC526 Fet Comp (1731 DOA's) (added Oct 13, 2015) Also, added 2:1 ratio and ABI "all buttons in"
11) Emperical Labs Distressor EL8
12) Anamod AM660 (added Sept. 9, 2011) Note: "TC" stands for time constant which is the attack and release setting.
13) Urei BL-40 (added Sept. 15, 2011)
14) Urei La3a vintage (added Sept. 15, 2011)
15) Universal Audio La3a (added Dec. 27, 2011)
16) dbx 163 (old one from 70's freshly recap'ed)
17) Ashley SC-50 Blackface
18) Aphex Expressor 651 w/ Jim Williams Mod (added Nov. 28, 2011)
19) JoeMeek VC1 (added Dec. 9, 2011)
20) Anamod ATS-1 (added Dec 30, 2011) I threw this one in for fun!
___ Plugins___
21) Bomb Factory BF76 (1176 emulation)
22) Massey CT4
23) Waves CLA-76 Blacky Blackface (notated as ...CLA76Bk)
24) Waves CLA-76 Bluey Blue Stripe (notated as ...CLA76BS)
25) Waves CLA-3A La3a

I took a vocal file from the 3d Audio "Mic Pre CD" and ran it out of ProTools HD, thru a Lynx Aurora at 24 bit, 44.1khz, thru the compressor, then back thru the Lynx into PT again. I made several files for each comp with various settings.

I've also included a vocal file that I ran thru the D/A, A/D but without any compressor. This way you are hearing ONLY what the compressors are doing without any added changes from the conversion process.

The file labeling is pretty simple but here's a brief description:
ratio is listed as 2.1 rather than 2:1 b/c a colon was not allowed.
A= attack
R= release
GR= gain reduction. I listed what the MAX GR was (on the loudest section) per unit. I tried to hit the comps hard, as to reveal their sound a bit more obviously, based upon what I thought each unit could handle. For instance, the StaLevel can easily do 20db of GR and still sound great, actually better, while the Distressor can crap out at half that much.

I hope you find this helpful.

More on the file source:
The original recording is from the 3D Pre CD by 3D Audio, which showcases 30+ preamps on female voice and acoustic guitar. They are copyrighted and are only used by securing written permission from Lynn Fuston and 3D Audio. The original recordings are available for download at http://www.3daudioinc.com/3db/showth...-Vocal-Samples and the CD is available at osCommerce

I have purchased 3 of the various shootout CD's from 3d Audio and they are all great, IMO. Lynn is really making great products.
Attached Files

Voc 3d Audio - Lynx Aurora24bit, 44.1 DA-AD.wav (3.43 MB, 11166 views)

Voc Sta-slw R, GR 20db.wav (3.43 MB, 11136 views)

Voc Sta-med R, GR 20db.wav (3.43 MB, 10600 views)

Voc Sta-fast R, GR 20db.wav (3.43 MB, 10826 views)

Voc-CL1b 2.1 Fixed A-R, GR 10db.wav (3.43 MB, 10140 views)

Voc-CL1b 6.1 Fixed A-R, GR 10db.wav (3.43 MB, 9793 views)

Voc-CL1b 10.1 Fixed A-R, GR 10db.wav (3.43 MB, 8639 views)

Voc-CL1b 10.1 Fixed A, Man fast R, GR 10db.wav (3.43 MB, 9404 views)

Voc MC77 4.1 A1 R7, GR 15db.wav (3.43 MB, 9859 views)

Voc MC77 4.1 A3 R5, GR 15db.wav (3.43 MB, 9208 views)

Voc MC77 4.1 A5 R6, GR 15db.wav (3.43 MB, 9110 views)

Voc MC77 8.1 A1 R7, GR 15db.wav (3.43 MB, 9130 views)

Voc MC77 12.1 A6 R7, GR 15db.wav (3.43 MB, 9069 views)

Voc Dist, 2.1 A5, R4, Det HP, GR 8db.wav (3.43 MB, 9206 views)

Voc Dist, 4.1 A5, R4, Det HP, Audio HP, GR 8db.wav (3.43 MB, 9513 views)

Voc-Dist 10.1 A0, R10, Det HP, Audio HP Dist 2, GR 8db.wav (3.43 MB, 8678 views)

Voc BF76 4.1 A1 R7, GR 15db.wav (3.43 MB, 6958 views)

Voc BF76 4.1 A3 R5 GR 15db.wav (3.43 MB, 6755 views)

Voc BF76 4.1 A5 R6 GR 15db.wav (3.43 MB, 6748 views)

Voc BF76 8.1 A1 R7 GR 15db.wav (3.43 MB, 6717 views)

Voc BF76 12.1 A6 R7 GR 15db.wav (3.43 MB, 6737 views)

Voc - CT4 Fast atk, Fast Rel, GR -10db.wav (3.43 MB, 6715 views)

Voc - CT4 Fast atk, Slow Rel, GR -10db.wav (3.43 MB, 6603 views)

Voc - CT4 Slow atk, Fast Rel, GR -10db.wav (3.43 MB, 6587 views)

Voc - CT4 slow atk, slow Rel, GR -10db.wav (3.43 MB, 6619 views)

Voc dbx163 max GR 6db.wav (3.43 MB, 6715 views)

Voc dbx163 max GR 10db.wav (3.43 MB, 6680 views)

Voc dbx163 max GR 15db.wav (3.43 MB, 6746 views)

Voc-AM660 TC 1, GR -8db.wav (3.43 MB, 6957 views)

Voc-AM660 TC 2, GR -8db.wav (3.43 MB, 6970 views)

Voc-AM660 TC 2a, GR -8db.wav (3.43 MB, 6801 views)

Voc-AM660 TC 2b, GR -8db.wav (3.43 MB, 6826 views)

Voc BL40 La3side only max GR 10db.wav (3.43 MB, 6525 views)

Voc BL40 La3side GR -7db, 1176side GR -2db.wav (3.43 MB, 6397 views)

Voc Urei La3a GR 4db.wav (3.38 MB, 6759 views)

Voc Urei La3a GR 7db.wav (3.38 MB, 6882 views)

Voc UA1176 4.1 A1 R7, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 7085 views)

Voc UA1176 4.1 A3 R5 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6755 views)

Voc UA1176 4.1 A5 R6 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6933 views)

Voc UA1176 8.1 A1 R7 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6796 views)

Voc UA1176 12.1 A6 R7 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6869 views)

Voc-SC50 ratio 2,1 slow atk, med rel.wav (3.43 MB, 6542 views)

Voc-SC50 ratio 5,1 fast atk, fast rel.wav (3.43 MB, 6320 views)

Voc UA6176 4.1 A1 R7, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6645 views)

Voc UA6176 4.1 A3 R5 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6413 views)

Voc UA6176 4.1 A5 R6 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6384 views)

Voc UA6176 8.1 A1 R7 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6364 views)

Voc UA6176 12.1 A6 R7 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6399 views)

Voc Action 4.1 A3 R7, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6482 views)

Voc Aphex651JW 3.1, A40ms, R.4, GR -10db, softknee.wav (3.43 MB, 6284 views)

Voc Aphex651JW 6.1, A40ms, R1.5, GR -12db, softknee.wav (3.43 MB, 6342 views)

Voc Aphex651JW 10.1, A5ms, R.4 GR -16db, softknee.wav (3.43 MB, 6328 views)

Voc VC1 2 6.1 A4ms, R.3s, -3db GR.wav (3.43 MB, 6192 views)

Voc VC1 2.1, A4ms,R.5s, -3db.wav (3.43 MB, 6166 views)

Voc VC1 3 6.1, A.3, R.25S, -7db GR.wav (3.43 MB, 6262 views)

Voc UA La3a GR 4db.wav (3.38 MB, 6379 views)

Voc UA La3a GR 7db.wav (3.38 MB, 6361 views)

Voc UA La3a GR 10db.wav (3.38 MB, 6388 views)

Voc ATS1 351,GP9.wav (3.43 MB, 6243 views)

Voc ATS1 351,456.wav (3.43 MB, 6237 views)

Voc ATS1 351,111.wav (3.43 MB, 6246 views)

Voc ATS1 A800,GP9.wav (3.43 MB, 6044 views)

Voc ATS1 A800,456.wav (3.43 MB, 6194 views)

Voc ATS1 A800,111.wav (3.43 MB, 6102 views)

Voc CLA-3a GR 4db.wav (3.38 MB, 6096 views)

Voc CLA-3a GR 7db.wav (3.38 MB, 6149 views)

Voc CLA-3a GR 10db.wav (3.38 MB, 6090 views)

Voc CLA76Bk 4.1 A1 R7, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6134 views)

Voc CLA76Bk 4.1 A3 R5 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6121 views)

Voc CLA76Bk 4.1 A5 R6 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6033 views)

Voc CLA76Bk 8.1 A1 R7 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6091 views)

Voc CLA76Bk 12.1 A6 R7 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6016 views)

Voc CLA76BS 4.1 A1 R7, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 5988 views)

Voc CLA76BS 4.1 A3 R5 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6038 views)

Voc CLA76BS 4.1 A5 R6 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6088 views)

Voc CLA76BS 8.1 A1 R7 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 5997 views)

Voc CLA76BS 12.1 A6 R7 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 5975 views)

Voc 1176revF 4.1 A1 R7, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6133 views)

Voc 1176revF 4.1 A3 R5, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6088 views)

Voc 1176revF 4.1 A5 R6, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6077 views)

Voc 1176revF 8.1 A1 R7, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6140 views)

Voc 1176revF 12.1 A6 R7, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6026 views)

Voc 176 2.1 A-fast, R-fast, Int off, 8db GR.wav (3.43 MB, 6268 views)

Voc 176 2.1 A-fast, R-fast, Int on, 8db GR.wav (3.43 MB, 6174 views)

Voc 176 8.1 A-med, R-med, Int off, 12db GR.wav (3.43 MB, 6118 views)

Voc 176 8.1 A-med, R-med, Int on, 12db GR.wav (3.43 MB, 6220 views)

Voc 176 4.1 A-slw, R-fast, Int off, 12db GR.wav (3.43 MB, 6181 views)

Voc 176 4.1 A-slw, R-fast, Int on, 12db GR.wav (3.43 MB, 6237 views)

Voc 1176BlStripe 4.1 A1 R7, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6150 views)

Voc 1176BlStripe 4.1 A3 R5, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6134 views)

Voc 1176BlStripe 4.1 A5 R6, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6008 views)

Voc 1176BlStripe 8.1 A1 R7, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6090 views)

Voc 1176BlStripe 12.1 A6 R7, 15db max.wav (3.43 MB, 6158 views)


Last edited by littlesicily; 3rd September 2017 at 05:06 AM..
Old 8th April 2010
  #2
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Downloading all.Thanks. I love this kind of post, let me hear machines that otherwise I couldn't. There´s no better way to learn than hear. I didn't know about the CDs with samples either. Maybe it worths to give it a try.
Old 8th April 2010
  #3
Lives for gear
Thx!
Old 8th April 2010
  #4
you are welcome. please post any thoughts you guys have. all 4 comps are well respected and do a great job on this source.
my personal favorite is the retro sta-level. it's F A T .
Old 8th April 2010
  #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by littlesicily View Post
you are welcome. please post any thoughts you guys have. all 4 comps are well respected and do a great job on this source.
my personal favorite is the retro sta-level. it's F A T .
I agree.
Old 8th April 2010
  #6
One thing to note:

Mixing a vocal through a comp and tracking a vocal through a comp usually yields different results. Its why when mixing you have to experiment some times to see what combination of EQ's and comps work best on a lead vocal.

When tracking its usually a different process.

Bottom line: Just because something excels upon playback doesn't mean it will work just as well when its being tracked.
Old 8th April 2010
  #7
Insightful AND correct. I hope the listeners will take that into consideration. My purpose in sharing these files is to let some GS's hear some of the characteristics and sounds of these boxes.

Thrill... would you like to comment on your experience with any or all of these comps?

Quote:
Originally Posted by thethrillfactor View Post
One thing to note:

Mixing a vocal through a comp and tracking a vocal through a comp usually yields different results. Its why when mixing you have to experiment some times to see what combination of EQ's and comps work best on a lead vocal.

When tracking its usually a different process.

Bottom line: Just because something excels upon playback doesn't mean it will work just as well when its being tracked.
Old 8th April 2010
  #8
Quote:
Originally Posted by littlesicily View Post

Thrill... would you like to comment on your experience with any or all of these comps?
I still own 3 of them(Distressor, MC77, original Sta-level) and have owned a couple of CL1B in the past. Personally i prefer to mix vocals/bass with the Distressor and the Sta-Level and prefer to track vocals/bass with either the CL1B or the MC77.

(But these are my preferences and mean absolutely nothing except to me).heh
Old 8th April 2010
  #9
Do you make those choices based upon tonal qualities or comp curves?

Quote:
Originally Posted by thethrillfactor View Post
I still own 3 of them(Distressor, MC77, original Sta-level) and have owned a couple of CL1B in the past. Personally i prefer to mix vocals/bass with the Distressor and the Sta-Level and prefer to track vocals/bass with either the CL1B or the MC77.

(But these are my preferences and mean absolutely nothing except to me).heh
Old 8th April 2010
  #10
Quote:
Originally Posted by littlesicily View Post
Do you make those choices based upon tonal qualities or comp curves?
Both.

Having used them a bunch i pretty know what to expect. This is also why i kept them around. I know when something comes up and i need a specific sound i know where to turn to.
Old 27th April 2010
  #11
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I like the Distressor, i think it would fit well in the mix! wow.... weird thought they were dirty from what people say, was it on optical?
Old 27th April 2010
  #12
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Originally Posted by SoZo View Post
I like the Distressor, i think it would fit well in the mix! wow.... weird thought they were dirty from what people say, was it on optical?
There were 3 different settings for the Distressor. The 3rd one with the 10:1 ratio was set as opto.
Old 27th April 2010
  #13
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I think the Purple sounds the sweetest on that voice, singing those words, with that emotion. That kind of surprised me.

The Distressor is 2nd. The other two seemed a bit heavy handed for that passage.

Note: I do not own any of those 4 compressors.
Old 28th April 2010
  #14
Thanks !

I liked the STA best ,it sounded natural and the hi frequency range felt more preserved .
If it was a rock vocal I would probably go with the Distressor .
Old 28th April 2010
  #15
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Sta level
Old 28th April 2010
  #16
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The mc77 at 8:1 was the only comp of the bunch that actually controlled her performance enough to be usable during mixing a full production. The Sta-level sounded big, but didnt control the dynamics as well. If the mc77 had a sidechain/big switch like my Drawmer 1969, it would be the winner for me. Or just run it thru a Pultec after the mc77. The mc77 is too aggresive at 8:1 for tracking though. I choose the Sta-level during tracking. The Distressor was way to essy and spitty for her performance.
Old 6th June 2010
  #17
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Thank you for the post. The files with STA Level sound as if they are recorded with much more expensive vintage microphone.
Old 7th June 2010
  #18
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The Retro ROCKS!
Old 12th November 2010
  #19
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to my ears the MC77 controls the peaks best, still giving a warm sound. The Distressor is very precise but I hear a bit too much ssss and I hear it a bit harsher than the others..The Retro sounds big..but some peaks are quite evident..And the CL1B is nice ,very nice..Warm, big and precise.But If I would have to choose one only ,deciding from this samples, my choice would go for the MC77. But the Retro really makes a big sound...Guess it can make thin or weak tracks to sound really warmer and thicker.
Thanks for this useful thread.
Old 12th November 2010
  #20
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only time enough to compare the sta and cl1 ... loved the sta (which i happen to own heh).
thought worth pointing out though that the sta is reducing 20db compared to the cl1 @ 10db.
this can certainly explain some of the tonal difs.
n'est pas?
Old 2nd April 2011
  #21
Added BF76 files

I added the Bomb Factory BF76 plugin with the same settings as the MC77 to hear the differences. New files added in opening post.
Old 2nd April 2011
  #22
The BF76, first sample is quite similar in sound to the Cl1b with 6.1.
Old 4th April 2011
  #23
Massey CT4 files added

Massey CT4 files added to opening post
Old 4th April 2011
  #24
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The Retro STA Level is totally bad ass.
Old 4th April 2011
  #25
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The Retro STA Level is totally bad ass.
I agree! If I could only have one comp for recording vocals, it'd be the Retro STA.
Old 4th April 2011
  #26
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I tested the file in my old tube comp
Attached Files

voc_comp.wav (4.39 MB, 4996 views)

Old 4th April 2011
  #27
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I tested the file in my old tube comp
What comp is it?
What D/A, A/D did you use?
Settings... max gain reduction?
Old 4th April 2011
  #28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thethrillfactor View Post
One thing to note:

Mixing a vocal through a comp and tracking a vocal through a comp usually yields different results. Its why when mixing you have to experiment some times to see what combination of EQ's and comps work best on a lead vocal.

When tracking its usually a different process.

Bottom line: Just because something excels upon playback doesn't mean it will work just as well when its being tracked.
Your post got me thinking. I've noticed something similar, but I wonder if it has more to do with the mindset of the operator than the gear actually responding differently during mixing vs tracking.

Different headspace, different goals = different results.

I'm guessing that's what you mean, but I'd be interested to hear if you think that the gear reacts differently to signal coming from converters or tape vs a live take...
Old 14th April 2011
  #29
vintage dbx 163 files added

I just acquired a pair of old dbx 163 comps and had them recap'ed. Added files to opening post.
Old 16th April 2011
  #30
so what do u guys think of these examples?
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