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Three omni SDC paqirs on grand piano
Old 4th July 2009
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Three omni SDC pairs on grand piano

This is a complement to a previous shootout with 6 cardio SDC pairs. Same Chopin nocturne, same piano, same room, same mics placement. Here the mics are omni.

Avenson STO-2,
DPA 4060,
Oktava MK-012 with omni cap.

Tell here your mind about them and I will tell you by PM who is who.
Attached Files

7.mp3 (3.42 MB, 7373 views)

8.mp3 (3.53 MB, 7173 views)

9.mp3 (3.08 MB, 7044 views)


Last edited by didier.brest; 5th July 2009 at 06:59 AM.. Reason: Update of the download link because the original archiv included a mp3.
Old 10th July 2009
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I like 7 best at least it seems to have the least noise. Hope it is the one I am planning to purchase!
Old 10th July 2009
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Check your mail.
Old 13th July 2009
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Didier, Again you have done an outstanding job here.

#9 is too bright for my tast.

#7 and #8 are both fine; however I prefer#8 which is brighter than #7

Again, apprecite your key thru PM
Old 13th July 2009
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You've got it.
Old 14th July 2009
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Finally had a chance to take a listen.

First of all I prefer all the omnis over the six cardioids you made [or the the five cardioids actually, the subcardioid being between omni and card]

I think I preferred #9, sounded best, most balanced on both loudspeakers and headphones [not too bright for me].
Still
#8 had some magic on loudspeakers, but I find it a little veiled in the lower regions [could be the Oktava]

I need to emphasize that there are pros and cons in every sample - to really judge these microphones would need much more varied material, microphone placements etc.
Still very interesting comparisons!

Best,
Mads
Old 14th July 2009
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Mads, thank you for your listening and your report. You've got a PM.
Old 14th July 2009
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Didier,

I’d like to thank you again for the meticulously done high quality samples, which I find so much fun to listen to, and invaluable because now I know the characteristics of each mic presented here for my future purchase reference. The nice tones of your piano help tremendously too.

I am fairly new in audio recording and only do it occasionally (a couple of times a year for fun only), and do not have much of a mic collection but would like to expand it gradually. Your samples are the first that I found highly useful. The issues I often have with others’ samples are as follows:

(1) Saturated or otherwise compressed samples that muddy the characteristics of the mics;

(2) Recordings of narration that practically tell nothing about the mics because human (talking) voices have such narrow frequency bands (unless I get to compare the recording with the live person);

(3) Too much coloration from the room acoustics, etc.

By the way, PM me first when you are ready to sell your piano!
Old 14th July 2009
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Thanks for the shootout.

I prefer 8 or 9. More detailed than 7. I think 8 has great imaging, and 9 has a very clear sparkle to it. 7 is somewhat gritty in comparison.
Old 14th July 2009
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I just send to you the key.
Old 12th September 2009
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#8 has magic, 7 was a bit harsh, 9 was ok. If #8 are Octavas I am so buying them!!!
Old 13th September 2009
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You've got the key by PM. heh
Old 1st December 2009
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Well the omnis are better than the cardiods in your other test.

I liked the 9.

Please PM the answer.
Old 1st December 2009
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Smile

Done.
Old 3rd December 2009
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They all sound good, but I like 8 the best (clear and balanced), then 7 and 9 the least (a little to bright for me).

Please PM me the key.

Thank you!
Old 3rd December 2009
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Smile

Done.
Old 10th December 2009
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#8 ..........

#8 gets my vote......please send the key. Thanks! GPM
Old 10th December 2009
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Wink

You've got it.
Old 13th December 2009
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8 is way out in front here...I'd be thrilled if it isn't the DPA as I already have the other two. I presume it is the DPA though.

8, 7, 9 is my preference. Thanks in advance for the key.
Old 13th December 2009
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You have got it.
Old 13th December 2009
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first thanks


otherwise for me
8 was the most precise , natural and open so i says dpa
9 more colored but not nasty so maybe oktava
and 7 a bit resonant ; not as detailed and deep thus maybe Avenson

about the dpa do you find them noisy? for room ambiance,far field,...I'm really interested
Old 13th December 2009
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Check your PMs.

The self-noise from DPA 4060 is 23 dBA, which can be an issue only a very quiet source in a very quiet room. The Avenson noise is 5 dB higher.
Old 13th December 2009
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Thanks for doing these tests! It's a lot of fun.

My preference is: 8,7,9

Thanks in advance for the key!

Brian
Old 13th December 2009
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9, 7, 8 in order of preference, listening on a laptop with headphones. 9 sounds especially dark, slightly distant and distinctly russian. looking forward to the key.
thanks !

nice piece, nice piano, nice playing !
Old 14th December 2009
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Smile

Thank you. Check your mail box.
Old 14th December 2009
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Thank *you* for taking the time to do this comparison and make the results available to us.
Old 20th December 2009
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Hi Didier.Brest,

I never received the key for this test. It might have gotten lost in cyberspace. When you get a chance, could you send it to me again, either e-mail or PM?

Thanks,

Brian
Old 20th December 2009
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My fault! I missed your post.
Y've got it.
Old 3rd January 2010
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Thanks for this comparison - would love the answer key via PM!

The shame of it is was the jump in noise level for #8, which, for me, would make that one unusable. Would drive me nuts! Its a shame because I liked the tonal balance of 8 quite a bit, just that noise/hiss...........

8 noisiest, then 9, then 7?

Which, to your ears, sounds the most like the piano as you played it?

Overall, I'd probably take 9, sounds more open, but not too noisy. 7 didn't sound as good as 8 to my ears, but 8 was just too noisy.

(Did you ever close mic the piano with any of these? Just curious if the noise went away, or whether it was there even at low gain levels?)
Old 3rd January 2010
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Thanks for this audio file comparison. I much prefer file 8 since it sounds brighter yet smoother and more realistic than the other clips. Mic 7 and 8 sound pretty similar although I prefer 9 over file 7. So once again, to list my favorites.

1. Mic 8 is my favorite
2. Mic 9
3. Mic 7

Please pm me the key if you don't mind. Thanks again for the test.
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