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Six cardio SDC pairs on grand piano
Old 1st June 2017
  #331
I send you the key by PM on yesterday.
Old 2nd July 2017
  #332
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All very similar. In my experience louder sources tend to bring out more separation between cheap crappy SDCs and nice ones. That being said, I think I liked 4 the best on this source. 5 seemed a little harsh, even on this quiet piano piece... All very usable. Thanks for the shootout, and continuing to support it nearly a decade later.

PM please.
Old 23rd August 2017 | Show parent
  #333
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Legendary effort man! Thanks.
A.
My tests on Gearslutz (completed list):
Comparison of 6 cardio SDCs | Comparison of 3 omni SDCs | Brauner Valvet vs. Neumann M149 | Rode K2 - FLEA 49 - Brauner Valvet Oktava MK012 vs. Schoeps CMC6-MK21 & RME Fireface 400 vs. Steinberg MR816X | FLEA 49 - FLEA 50 - Brauner Valvet | Brauner Valvet vs. Manley Gold | DAV Electronics BG1 vs. Steinberg MR816X | Vovox vs. Cheap cable | Nevaton MC48 - AKG C414B-XLS - Audio-Technica AT4047 - Schoeps CMC6-MK21 | Audio-Technica AT 4047 and 4050 - AKG C414 Ltd | Schoeps MK21 vs Rode NT5 cardio | Superlux S502, Oktava MK-012, DPA 4021 | DPA4060 vs. DPA 4021 (inside the piano) | Neumann M149 vs. FLEA 49 and Manley Gold Reference | Line Audio Design CM3 vs. Schoeps MK 21 | Line Audio Design CM3, Josephson C42 , Schoeps MK 21 | Fireface 400, DAV BG1, Fearn VT-2 (Schoeps MK 21) Fireface 400, Fearn VT-2, DAV BG1 (Beyer M 130, Beyer M 160) | Fireface 400, DAV BG1, Fearn VT-2 (Beyer M130) | AKG C300B + Fearn VT-2 vs. Brauner Valvet + Fireface 400 | Rode NT5 - Oktava MK-012 - Line Audio CM3 - Schoeps MK 21 | Audio-Technica AT4041 - Oktava MK-012 - Line Audio CM3 - Schoeps MK21 | Sontronics Apollo - Schoeps MK21 - Beyerdynamic M 130 | Neumann M149 - Manley Reference Gold - Rode Classic II | Manley Reference Gold vs Rode Classic II DPA 4041 vs. Neumann KM 133 D Neumann KM 133 D vs. FLEA 50 Preamps: DAV -_Line Audio - RME - Little labs et al. Avenson STO-2 - DPA 4060 - Schoeps MK 21 Line Audio CM3 - Josephson C42 - Schoeps CMC 621 - DPA 4021 Manley Reference Gold in living room vs. famous DG recording in good hall Neumann KM 143 D vs Schoeps CMC6-MK21 Neumann KM 184, KM 143, KM 133 Neumann KM 184 - Beyerdynamic M 160 - sE Electronics sE X1R Rode NT5 + NT45-0 - Oktava MK012-omni - Neumann KM 133 Avenson STO-2 vs Line Audio Design CM3 Behringer B-5 vs. Neumann KM 133 | Prodipe RSL vs. sE Electronics X1R| Sontronics Apollo, Prodipe RSL, Beyerdynamic M 130 Behringer B-5 vs. Neumann KM 184 Rode NT5 - Behringer B-5 - Line Audio CM3 - Neumann KM184 Neumann D-01 vs. Neumann M 149 Flea 49, AKG C414 B-XLS, Sontronics Apollo, Audio-Technica AT4047, Neumann M 149 Beyer M 130 vs. M 160 Behringer ADA8200 vs. Lake people F355 (1) Behringer ADA8200 vs. Lake people F355 (2) DPA 4021, Neumann KM 184, Neumann KM 143 D, Schoeps MK 21 + CMC 6

Last edited by didier.brest; 23rd August 2017 at 08:24 PM..
Old 27th September 2017
  #334
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Didier, great work! THANKS!
I please you for PM me the key? TNX again...
Old 30th September 2017
  #335
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Hello! On my hearing, the best 3 and 1, 3 - are more intelligent. Thanks for the test.
Old 2nd October 2017
  #336
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Thank you for all the tests! Literally a lifesaver!

Enjoyed 4 and 6 mostly. What are they?
Old 3rd October 2017 | Show parent
  #337
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I preferred 3 but also like 2 and 4. Key please!
Old 15th October 2017 | Show parent
  #338
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I've listened to the comparison. I like most recordings and they sound very similar to my ears. I like number 2 and 4 the most, and number 5 the least (sounds thin to me).

Please enlighten me =D

Cheers
Jost
Old 26th November 2017
  #339
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I preferred 3 the most. Please send the key
Old 26th January 2018
  #340
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Hey Didier,
Epic thread! On quick casual listen, I liked 3 the best. I liked 4,5, and 6 the least. It's interesting that there are some very different opinions on which ones sounded better or worse. Can you send me the Key? I'm really curious now.

Thanks!
Old 26th January 2018 | Show parent
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Old 10th February 2018 | Show parent
  #342
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Just wanted to thank Didier for this shootout.
I've made my mic choice according to this test.
Thank you!
Old 25th March 2018 | Show parent
  #343
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Thanks Didier.... My picks were 3,2, and 5. Each of which I would be happy to use, depending on the piano itself.
I thought that maybe 5 is the Rode which I've never liked on acoustic guitar but I like on piano.
It is great to see that after nine years your post is still of great value to us all.... I'm in Australia.

Can you send me the key please.
Old 26th March 2018 | Show parent
  #344
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Thanks for this test Didier.

I love my Tula mk012 s and i think i recognise their round mids and air in the 2nd clip , 2 and 3 are faves, 1 is less so, i hear a lot of hf noise in 6 , which may just have been pointing at your laptop fan but to me it sounds just like a harsh/noisy hyped mic .

5 i find brittle and thorny too. Am i guessing your ordering of them, is related to their sound qualities ? or is this psychoacoustic / power of suggestion ;-/

bests & dying to know so pls PM me the key

athanasios
Old 27th March 2018 | Show parent
  #345
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Many thanks for this test Didier !

I liked the 3 the most, I heard there more dynamics rendering...or maybe you just played differently, and the general tone was for me appealing.

Just my two hears...waiting for the key !

Merci !
Old 3rd April 2018 | Show parent
  #346
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I send you the key by PM on yesterday.

Hi Didier.... Can you send me the key or maybe it's time to put the info into the thread ??? Thanks Again
Old 8th April 2018 | Show parent
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Can I have the results too?

Thank you for the shootout!
Old 24th December 2018
  #348
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I only listened today. These are my impressions:

1 very good, balanced sound. open top.
2 cheaper sound. nasal, dry and dark.
3 good, neutral, a little bit dark.
4 very good. full sound..
5 constricted. distorion.
6 reasonably good, balenced sound. gives the impression of being closer in.

Please send me your key...
Old 29th December 2018
  #349
My tests on Gearslutz (completed list):
Comparison of 6 cardio SDCs | Comparison of 3 omni SDCs | Brauner Valvet vs. Neumann M149 | Rode K2 - FLEA 49 - Brauner Valvet | Oktava MK012 vs. Schoeps CMC6-MK21 & RME Fireface 400 vs. Steinberg MR816X | FLEA 49 - FLEA 50 - Brauner Valvet | Brauner Valvet vs. Manley Gold | DAV Electronics BG1 vs. Steinberg MR816X | Vovox vs. Cheap cable | Nevaton MC48 - AKG C414B-XLS - Audio-Technica AT4047 - Schoeps CMC6-MK21 | Audio-Technica AT 4047 and 4050 - AKG C414 Ltd | Schoeps MK21 vs Rode NT5 cardio | Superlux S502, Oktava MK-012, DPA 4021 | DPA4060 vs. DPA 4021 (inside the piano) | Neumann M149 vs. FLEA 49 and Manley Gold Reference | Line Audio Design CM3 vs. Schoeps MK 21 | Line Audio Design CM3, Josephson C42 , Schoeps MK 21 | Fireface 400, DAV BG1, Fearn VT-2 (Schoeps MK 21) | Fireface 400, Fearn VT-2, DAV BG1 (Beyer M 130, Beyer M 160) | Fireface 400, DAV BG1, Fearn VT-2 (Beyer M130) | AKG C300B + Fearn VT-2 vs. Brauner Valvet + Fireface 400 | Rode NT5 - Oktava MK-012 - Line Audio CM3 - Schoeps MK 21 | Audio-Technica AT4041 - Oktava MK-012 - Line Audio CM3 - Schoeps MK21 | Sontronics Apollo - Schoeps MK21 - Beyerdynamic M 130 | Neumann M149 - Manley Reference Gold - Rode Classic II | Manley Reference Gold vs Rode Classic II DPA 4041 vs. Neumann KM 133 D | Neumann KM 133 D vs. FLEA 50 | Preamps: DAV -_Line Audio - RME - Little labs et al. Avenson STO-2 - DPA 4060 - Schoeps MK 21 | Line Audio CM3 - Josephson C42 - Schoeps CMC 621 - DPA 4021 | Manley Reference Gold in living room vs. famous DG recording in good hall | Neumann KM 143 D vs Schoeps CMC6-MK21 | Neumann KM 184, KM 143, KM 133 | Neumann KM 184 - Beyerdynamic M 160 - sE Electronics sE X1R | Rode NT5 + NT45-0 - Oktava MK012-omni - Neumann KM 133 | Avenson STO-2 vs Line Audio Design CM3 | Behringer B-5 vs. Neumann KM 133 | Prodipe RSL vs. sE Electronics X1R | Sontronics Apollo, Prodipe RSL, Beyerdynamic M 130 | Behringer B-5 vs. Neumann KM 184 | Rode NT5 - Behringer B-5 - Line Audio CM3 - Neumann KM184 | Neumann D-01 vs. Neumann M 149 Flea 49, AKG C414 B-XLS, Sontronics Apollo, Audio-Technica AT4047, Neumann M 149 | Beyer M 130 vs. M 160 Behringer ADA8200 vs. Lake people F355 (1) | Behringer ADA8200 vs. Lake people F355 (2) | DPA 4021, Neumann KM 184, Neumann KM 143 D, Schoeps MK 21 + CMC 6 | Neumann KM 183 vs. Schoeps MK 21 | Neumann KM 183 vs. Neumann KM 133 D

FSMS test of omni SDCs:
DPA 4006 - Earthworks QTC30 - Josephson C617 - Sanken CO-100K - Schoeps MK5 - Studio Projects C4 | Rode NT55 - Oktava MK-012 - Avenson STO-2 - Audix SCX10 - CharterOak M900 - Mojave MA-100 - Microtech Gefell M296

Last edited by didier.brest; 30th January 2019 at 09:51 PM..
Old 23rd January 2019
  #350
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Hi,
My first post I really only like 3, please could you send me the key?
Thank you
Old 22nd April 2019
  #351
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Hi, great job with the comparison! I think I prefer no 6 and 4. May I have the key?
Old 11th May 2019 | Show parent
  #352
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Didier, could you PM me with the results, please?

Thanks for the shoot-out.

(There's something that picked me up about the #3 , but I'm not sure if it's about the playing or the mic - kinda more emotional.)
Old 5th September 2019
  #353
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Didier, thanks for shoot out as well!
My preference goes to no3, but likes few others as well. Looking to buy more sdc soon, so this is very helpful.

Would you pm me?

Thanks!
Old 30th November 2019
  #354
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Hi Didier,

I was looking for SDC comparisons recorded on a German grand piano. I almost gave up, especially since that is such specific criteria, and then I found this thread! That Steingraeber sounds terrific. Can you provide the key?

Below is what I think the order is, based on the WAV files. To me, listening to the wave files made a big difference. I've included a couple of comments as well.

1 MK-012?
2 C42?
3 My favorite. In the repeat of the first section you can clearly hear that it is played softer, and maybe with the una corda pedal? Also treble is beautifully rendered, with the first G sharp in the right hand decaying for much longer than with the other microphones. Is this the MK21?
4 Co2?
5 Ouf! I'm not sure what's going on, but this one doesn't sound good at all. Almost like there is some distortion. NT5?
6 AT4041?
Old 1st December 2019 | Show parent
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Can you provide the key?
Done by PM.


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and maybe with the una corda pedal?
Likely yes.
Edit: Most certainly, because one can hear the noise of the pedal being pushed.

Last edited by didier.brest; 1st December 2019 at 11:07 AM..
Old 15th April 2020 | Show parent
  #356
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Really great job Didier!!!
I heard many times the audios and I prefer #4 , #1 and #2
I think #5 is more metallic and not a lot of harmonics.
#6 bass is not very good.
#3 is nice sound, but I can’t heard the real colour of sound of this great piano.
Sorry my poor English.
Please, can you send me key?
Thank you.
Old 10th May 2020 | Show parent
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Great post

Like 1 & 3. It's a great idea and post. Can you please PM me the key?

Thanks!
Old 2nd June 2020 | Show parent
  #358
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Awesome job, Didier!
Can you please PM me the key?

Thanks!
Old 19th August 2020 | Show parent
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I would like the key, and also the key to the omni test as well, please.
Old 2nd September 2020
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Hi, please send me the results, great shootout!
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