I just read the whole damned thread

For the people who didnt read , there was 4 mixes posted. 1 rough itb , 1 summed itb but passed through 8816, 1 vicoden influenced rough otb, and 3 years later a polished otb 8816 mix

The final polished mix far surpassed the others imo, new to this thread please listen to the 4th mix

I personally dig the sound of summing mixers, and im thinking about getting one. I know i love the sound of the 8816, but i am keeping a close watch on the sigma. ( it will come down to the sound quality)

Can anyone comment on the a/d option for the 8816? How does it compare to other converters?

I hear it to man!! you cant make people hear what they cant hear, and they will try to tell those who can its just placebo and so the story goes....

Man, nice work, i've just got the album on itunes. Very, very nice production, mix and musicians. Did everything made in Neve 8816?

We're can I find Nebula MWC??

Wow but… It doesn't surprise me at all that some people can't hear the difference. To me the difference is Very noticeable. Think about when when you make a change in the mix that your client can't hear. You perceive it very clearly but they can't differentiate at all and they just say " whatever you thinks best go with it cause I can't tell you did anything." It happens all the time. Some people just can't hear it! to some people it comes across as a feel. I own a MixDream and a Dangerous 2bus and they both very clearly impact the sound of the mix in different ways.

Really there hasn't been a valid comparison here, and I have no idea how this summing mixer sounds as a result.

Let's review: First the OP posted an ITB mix, then and ITB mix sent to the mix buss of the device. Note: both mixes were SUMMED ITB. Then the OP revised the mix, added outboard gear and actually summed through the device, guaranteeing a totally different result with WAY more variables changing than just the one we needed for a valid comparison.

Google Todd Burke Recording Engineer. He does a brilliant shootout that gets to the heart of the matter and posted it in on his blog. he had no agenda - he was using borrowed devices and wasn't trying to prove anything one way or the other.

The differences are not subtle.

I'd post a link, but GS might ban me for doing so.

You first have to make an ITB mix. Then you have to calibrate all the I/O of the summing devices involved such that level changes are not introduced. Then you have to send stems out and actually have the summing mixer sum the ITB stems without changing any other variable. If you want to push the mixbuss and reduce the output, I suppose that's fair, but the internal balance between the stems has to stay put.

Interesting old thread. I heard an obvious difference on an iPad mini.

Hi guys.

i got the unit a few days ago thinking it would fit nicely into my setup.

Found myself doing a 4 day connectivity research which has led me to doubt if this thing is worth the effort of not.

I kinda like the idea of having the analog hands on feel and sound (although a midi controller is necessary anyway) and the CR section which i wanted to get anyway. Also it may be possible to expand i/o to 16 using the Neve D/A converters with and option card. Has anyone tried that?

Contacted Lynx as well as AMS Neve in regards to setting up the unit.
Lynx were not sure and AMS no reply...

Specs:
Lynx AES16e + Aurora 8
AMS Neve + 25pin HD to 25pin cable
3 pairs of monitors
Preamps and stuff
PC Windows 7/ Cubase 10.5/Mixbus/Ableton

Any insights on how to make this easier integration?

I own one. It's worth it. It sounds great. You'll need at least 16 outputs on your audio interface, preferably 18 the way I use it. The extra 2 outputs are for your monitoring setup. The 8816 has outs for speakers BUT you really want to hear the return back to your computer and software monitor that. That way you really hear what you're getting and not the pre A/D sound and can put on buss plugins if you want.

Dsubs are expensive, converter channels are expensive, but summing is one of the few things you can do that takes NO subjective skill and not much time to get a better sound. People might argue that, whatever. You have it, might as well try. You can still get a feel for it with 8 outs if thats all you got.

Dsubs are expensive - Do you have the ADS option card on the 8816? How do you connect you converter to it? XLR, optical? Does the card enable getting the full 16 channel i/o with an AES connected?

You can still get a feel for it with 8 outs if thats all you got. - Right now i cant get anything as the 25pin mogami connector i got with the unit does not go into XLR.

Thanks for the kind words,
Working on it!

I use a Phoenix Nicerizer for analogue summing. Couldn’t live without it.. but it’ll be living with a Little Red Bustard from now on..

Haven’t tried the Red Bustard yet...

Summing otb makes a lot of difference to my ears here..

Etto

OneLove.

Zz.