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Mix and Master Shootout ITB vs Burl Analog Summing
Old 3 weeks ago
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Mix and Master Shootout ITB vs Burl Analog Summing

Hi There,

This is my first time posting here and I would love to get some feedback and opinions about this mix and master that I just finished for a client. For a while I've been debating if I should for convenience, stay ITB since most of the time I am working in two or three different projects. I have done some comparisons with mixes that I do in between my ITB or summing it through my Burl B32 and converting it back with the B2 Bomber and sometimes I am not sure if the difference is enough to justify the extra hustle. Saturation plugins are getting so good that I keep thinking that I could just recreate the sound from the OTB mix with some plugins.

So here are some links for the mix and the master using three different process:

I mixed mainly in the box and printed that mix. Then route 10 different stems to the Burl B32. With the transformer engaged I printed one mix with the +6 and one without it. So now I have 3 mixes with gain mostly matched.

Then I mastered the 3 tracks using the same master chain for all the mixes.
Let me know if you can guess witch mix is what, your preference and why.

This will be interesting. Thanks a lot in advance!!

Mix and Master A
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hlhrlf8syz...x%20A.wav?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/38ickk8znz...r%20A.wav?dl=0

Mix and Master B
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l20r50bxkp...x%20B.wav?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qzrt6lxtfh...r%20B.wav?dl=0

Mix and Master C:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2hz5pkcw1t...x%20C.wav?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8wzsn5futv...r%20C.wav?dl=0


Let me know what you all think. Thanks a lot!!!
Old 2 weeks ago
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Hi,
thanks for providing the examples. Just compared them on my studio headphones and I like Master and Mix A the most. If I would guess, A is the ITB summing and B+C the Burl versions, because they sound related to each other. Am I right? Which DAW did you use for summing?
In general, the difference between the versions was not very big for my taste. So no matter which version is actually ITB or OTB, in this case I would save the money+time and go for the quicker workflow (summing in the box). I've heard bigger differences of ITB summing comparisons between different DAWs, so was kind of surprised how subtle the difference of your example appear to me... what converters did you use?
Cheers, Dan
Old 2 weeks ago
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Thanks a lot for your input Dan,

I will reveal what they are as soon as I get a bit more replies on this. I am using Protools Ultmate with the HDX as a DAW. I've been debating a lot about this ITB or OUT for while and I can see the pros and cons for both options. Lately some of the advantages that I have summing ITB started to win against going out. Ill let you know soon.

Thanks again!!!!
Pyata
Old 2 weeks ago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acuriousdan View Post
Hi,
thanks for providing the examples. Just compared them on my studio headphones and I like Master and Mix A the most. If I would guess, A is the ITB summing and B+C the Burl versions, because they sound related to each other. Am I right? Which DAW did you use for summing?
In general, the difference between the versions was not very big for my taste. So no matter which version is actually ITB or OTB, in this case I would save the money+time and go for the quicker workflow (summing in the box). I've heard bigger differences of ITB summing comparisons between different DAWs, so was kind of surprised how subtle the difference of your example appear to me... what converters did you use?
Cheers, Dan
Oh and I am using the Antelope 32hd to get out of protools and using the Burl B2 A/D to bring back in.
Old 2 weeks ago
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Ok cool, that's a high quality rig, Pyata!

Nice, I always liked the Pro Tools summing engine, so looking forward to the results
Old 1 week ago
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Hi,

Think A is ITB and B and C analog summing. Prefered B.

Best regards,
Daniel.
Old 1 week ago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danielbest1 View Post
Hi,

Think A is ITB and B and C analog summing. Prefered B.
Thanks for the feedback Daniel.
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