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22 ways to record a drum set with 1 mic
Old 23rd August 2019
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22 ways to record a drum set with 1 mic

Hi everyone!

I went and compared 22 ways of mic'ing a drum set using a single mic, and here's the result:

Most of the info are at the beginning of the video, so please check that out!
I'm also attaching the uncompressed grooves for your consideration, which I believe are the heart of this test.
Every snippet was normalized to -30dB RMS, and to -24dB RMS for the video.

I used a severely modified Apex 460, the main modification was substituting the double triode amp, with the second triode acting as a cathode follower, with an EF86 wired as a single triode amp, and adding a negative feedback circuit to reduce the output impedance.
Since now it looks a lot more similar to a U67 (even though it sounds a lot different) I called it "Apex 467"

At the following link you'll find the Logic session files: https://mega.nz/#F!PYRXhQZK!lrwRxSYxXjEIasKN5xhFOQ
There are three project alternatives in the Logic file, the first one is the raw session, the second one has the normalized snippets, and the third one is the one I exported for the video, with the single hits separated from the grooves.
In there you'll also find a snare mic track and a kick mic track, and the now useless session notes (in italian, good luck making any sense of them ).
The snare mic is an AKG D3700 cheap-ish hypercardioid dynamic vocal mic tilted towards the upper hoop of the snare, it acts more like a "shell" mic than a "head" mic.
The kick mic is a Line CM3 inside a hole in the bass drum reso head, inserted inside the head rather than "at the door" and pointed towards the outer diameter of the batter head.

The snare mic is unused in the video and the kick mic is only used a couple times in the third (groove with fx) section, always noted when it's on, but I wanted to have as many options as possible when comparing the main mic positions, to use as single mic or as single overhead, so hopefully you'll find those useful as well.

The drum set is an Indonesia made, first series Yamaha Stage Custom (poor man's Recording Custom) in 22/12/13/16 sizes from I think 1995-1996, the snare heads are the usual 10mil single ply coated head on top and 3mil hazy on the bottom, the toms are Evans G2 2*7mil double ply coated heads on top and 7mil single ply clears on the bottom, the floor tom is the same G2 on top and a 7mil single ply coated on the bottom, and the bass drum is an Evans EMAD2 2*7mil with a small externally mounted foam ring on the front and a Remo Powerstroke 3 10mil single ply head with a small internal dampening ring.
The muffling on the drums was minimal - a blanket in the bass drum resting against the batter head, some rings on top of the floor tom beater head (on my left), and some moongel on the snare batter head only when I thought that the mic position picked up too much overtones from it (mostly when the mic was more or less level with the snare).

Hopefully I haven't forgotten anything, but let me know if I have and I'll be sure to add whatever I forgot

Also let me know which position/polar pattern you liked best and why, what do you think would work in what particular situation, and so on and so forth!
Attached Files

Single mic drums_01_75cm above the snare cardioid.wav (7.46 MB, 71 views)

Single mic drums_02_75cm above the snare hypercardioid.wav (7.43 MB, 68 views)

Single mic drums_03_75cm above the snare subcardioid.wav (7.43 MB, 66 views)

Single mic drums_04_10cm above the bass drum omni.wav (7.69 MB, 65 views)

Single mic drums_05_20cm above the ride subcardioid.wav (7.40 MB, 72 views)

Single mic drums_06_20cm above the ride cardioid.wav (7.44 MB, 69 views)

Single mic drums_07_in front of the set 50cm away 120cm high fig8.wav (7.68 MB, 68 views)

Single mic drums_08_in front of the set 30cm away 190cm high fig8.wav (7.42 MB, 67 views)

Single mic drums_09_in front of the set 30cm away 190cm high hypercardioid.wav (7.38 MB, 67 views)

Single mic drums_10_in front of the set 30cm away 190cm high cardioid.wav (7.37 MB, 65 views)

Single mic drums_11_in front of the set 30cm away 190cm high omni.wav (7.41 MB, 68 views)

Single mic drums_12_in front of the set 30cm away 190cm high subcardioid.wav (7.40 MB, 66 views)

Single mic drums_13_in front of the bd 15cm away snare height omni.wav (7.41 MB, 62 views)

Single mic drums_14_in front of the bd 15cm away snare height cardioid.wav (7.11 MB, 65 views)

Single mic drums_15_in front of the bd 15cm away snare height hypercardioid.wav (7.42 MB, 64 views)

Single mic drums_16_in front of the bd 15cm away snare height hypercardioid-fig8.wav (7.44 MB, 63 views)

Single mic drums_17_between the snare and the bass drum 10cm lower than the snare omni.wav (7.38 MB, 65 views)

Single mic drums_18_between the snare and the bass drum 10cm lower than the snare subcardioid.wav (7.67 MB, 65 views)

Single mic drums_19_between the snare and the bass drum 10cm lower than the snare subcardioid-om.wav (7.39 MB, 65 views)

Single mic drums_20_above the drummers right shoulder cardioid.wav (7.47 MB, 66 views)

Single mic drums_21_above the drummers right shoulder subcardioid.wav (7.39 MB, 65 views)

Single mic drums_22_above the drummers right shoulder hypercardioid.wav (7.44 MB, 65 views)

Old 23rd August 2019
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mp3 files for quicker/more convenient listening and comparison using the gearslutz player
Attached Files

Single mic drums_01_75cm above the snare cardioid.wav.mp3 (863.4 KB, 47 views)

Single mic drums_02_75cm above the snare hypercardioid.wav.mp3 (875.7 KB, 47 views)

Single mic drums_03_75cm above the snare subcardioid.wav.mp3 (840.2 KB, 45 views)

Single mic drums_04_10cm above the bass drum omni.wav.mp3 (844.9 KB, 46 views)

Single mic drums_05_20cm above the ride subcardioid.wav.mp3 (840.2 KB, 46 views)

Single mic drums_06_20cm above the ride cardioid.wav.mp3 (856.7 KB, 45 views)

Single mic drums_07_in front of the set 50cm away 120cm high fig8.wav.mp3 (898.4 KB, 46 views)

Single mic drums_08_in front of the set 30cm away 190cm high fig8.wav.mp3 (871.1 KB, 45 views)

Single mic drums_09_in front of the set 30cm away 190cm high hypercardioid.wav.mp3 (874.0 KB, 47 views)

Single mic drums_10_in front of the set 30cm away 190cm high cardioid.wav.mp3 (864.5 KB, 45 views)

Single mic drums_11_in front of the set 30cm away 190cm high omni.wav.mp3 (833.5 KB, 47 views)

Single mic drums_12_in front of the set 30cm away 190cm high subcardioid.wav.mp3 (852.7 KB, 44 views)

Single mic drums_13_in front of the bd 15cm away snare height omni.wav.mp3 (845.6 KB, 45 views)

Single mic drums_14_in front of the bd 15cm away snare height cardioid.wav.mp3 (860.2 KB, 45 views)

Single mic drums_15_in front of the bd 15cm away snare height hypercardioid.wav.mp3 (901.6 KB, 44 views)

Single mic drums_16_in front of the bd 15cm away snare height hypercardioid-fig8.wav.mp3 (896.6 KB, 47 views)

Single mic drums_17_between the snare and the bass drum 10cm lower than the snare omni.wav.mp3 (815.8 KB, 47 views)

Single mic drums_18_between the snare and the bass drum 10cm lower than the snare subcardioid.wa.mp3 (838.7 KB, 45 views)

Single mic drums_19_between the snare and the bass drum 10cm lower than the snare subcardioid-om.mp3 (809.4 KB, 47 views)

Single mic drums_20_above the drummers right shoulder cardioid.wav.mp3 (884.5 KB, 44 views)

Single mic drums_21_above the drummers right shoulder subcardioid.wav.mp3 (863.6 KB, 45 views)

Single mic drums_22_above the drummers right shoulder hypercardioid.wav.mp3 (889.5 KB, 47 views)

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