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Pultec HW vs SW - Pulse vs Plugins
Old 22nd May 2019
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6, 3 and 5 for me. PM'd you for the results.

Thanks for doing this!
Old 22nd May 2019
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Thanks for the results, b0se.

Looks like I need to do a little shopping, now.
Old 22nd May 2019
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Thanks for the results, b0se.

Looks like I need to do a little shopping, now.
Very welcome
Old 28th May 2019
  #94
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Very good thread, thank you

My choice, I prefer (from top to bottom) :

1, 6, 2, 3, 5, 4, 7


Please, PM the results
Old 31st May 2019
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I hear no difference on studio monitors when just listening to overall sound rather then trying to pick up some microscopic nuances. I think #7 had a little less bass but if I bumped the knob by 0.5dB I'd probably make it sound exactly the same as the rest.

Bottom line: they're all the same.

Fretting over differences in these plugins is dumb and a waste of time (although I do appreciate OP effort to prove this point).
Old 31st May 2019
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I hear no difference on studio monitors when just listening to overall sound rather then trying to pick up some microscopic nuances. I think #7 had a little less bass but if I bumped the knob by 0.5dB I'd probably make it sound exactly the same as the rest.

Bottom line: they're all the same.

Fretting over differences in these plugins is dumb and a waste of time (although I do appreciate OP effort to prove this point).
What monitors? I can hear differences, although I agree to a point; using £3K HW isn't necessary.
Old 31st May 2019
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What monitors? I can hear differences, although I agree to a point; using £3K HW isn't necessary.
Mackie HR824 mk2. The difference are there only because you look for them. Play these to a random person and noone will tell. Not to mention in the context of the whole mix.
Old 31st May 2019
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Mackie HR824 mk2. The difference are there only because you look for them. Play these to a random person and noone will tell. Not to mention in the context of the whole mix.
Old story... You can say that about 99% of what gets discussed here. And it would be partly true. This does NOT make the pursuit of excellence and nuance irrelevant to the artist, though maybe to the bean counter. I easily hear what are significant differences to me. And my favorite was not the hardware, FWIW.
Old 31st May 2019
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Old story... You can say that about 99% of what gets discussed here. And it would be partly true. This does NOT make the pursuit of excellence and nuance irrelevant to the artist, though maybe to the bean counter. I easily hear what are significant differences to me. And my favorite was not the hardware, FWIW.
My thoughts as well. And, from most of the responses, it looks like there's a definite pattern of which clips most people are gravitating to. Coincidence?

Nuieve, the only thing I seem to agree with you on is the aliasing. I ran some tones thru the Rule Tec and it was the only one that I tested that was doing that. Now, I know that music is different than tones, but over many instances, all that hash adds up. I really like the tone, workflow and price so I hope they can clean that up soon.
Old 1st June 2019
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The Rule Tec devs have mentioned they're adding oversampling @ junior

@ Piedpiper - well said.
Old 1st June 2019
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I like 6 the best. My second favorite is 3. I don't really like 7. Other than that, they're all pretty close.
Old 1st June 2019
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Without telling who is who here in public, what would be an objective summary of this test? Do the results reveal that one or 2 files is prefered statistically to the others? Or is it more like 50/50 for all? The prefered ones were HW? SW?
It would be great to know As i don't have time to do the test but interested on what it prooves.
Thanks!
Old 1st June 2019
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Without telling who is who here in public, what would be an objective summary of this test? Do the results reveal that one or 2 files is prefered statistically to the others? Or is it more like 50/50 for all? The prefered ones were HW? SW?
It would be great to know As i don't have time to do the test but interested on what it prooves.
Thanks!
It's not to prove anything really. A simple test to see if my fave ITB plugins could match the sonics of the Pulse HW. To my ears, some can.

Results wise, option 6 is the most popular. If you'd like to know which is which PM me directly as I do not wish to reveal the results in the thread
Old 1st June 2019
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The Rule Tec devs have mentioned they're adding oversampling @ junior

@ Piedpiper - well said.
That's awesome news! Did they mention a time frame?
Old 1st June 2019
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It's better be 262144 bit oversampling, not just 64... 64 sounds absolutely terrible compared to 262144, I know everyone on GS can clearly hear it!!!
Old 1st June 2019
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I easily hear what are significant differences to me. And my favorite was not the hardware, FWIW.
And now you will be sent to the "re-education camp"!
Old 2nd June 2019
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Without telling who is who here in public, what would be an objective summary of this test? Do the results reveal that one or 2 files is prefered statistically to the others? Or is it more like 50/50 for all? The prefered ones were HW? SW?
It would be great to know As i don't have time to do the test but interested on what it prooves.
Thanks!

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Interesting statistics thus far.

1 and 6 are the biggest crowd pleasers, with 6 as king.

3 is essentially an overall 3rd favorite with 4 & 5 following, basically a tie.

6 is the only one not criticized of the bunch.

2 is mildly liked but not heavily criticized.

7 is the most criticized and least favorite of the majority.
Old 2nd June 2019
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It's better be 262144 bit oversampling, not just 64... 64 sounds absolutely terrible compared to 262144, I know everyone on GS can clearly hear it!!!
There's room for all of us here on this island. No need to proclaim the superiority of one point of view over another. My point was not to do that, but to proclaim the existence and validity of one other than yours.
Old 2nd June 2019
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There's room for all of us here on this island. No need to proclaim the superiority of one point of view over another. My point was not to do that, but to proclaim the existence and validity of one other than yours.
Hey... I was just joking. No offence. Any improvement is improvement. There's no end to perfection.
Old 3rd June 2019
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That's fer sher...
Old 6th June 2019
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I'd love to know which one was which.
Old 12th June 2019
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I'd love to know which one was which.
Sent!
Old 13th June 2019
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Pm me results PLEASE. I listened QUICK and liked #1 and #6 !
Old 13th June 2019
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PM please! Thx for doing this....
Old 13th June 2019
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Pm me results PLEASE. I listened QUICK and liked #1 and #6 !
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PM please! Thx for doing this....
Done.
Old 13th June 2019
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Done.
I've PMed but not received any results
Old 13th June 2019
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I've PMed but not received any results
Must have missed that - incoming :¬)
Old 13th June 2019
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Have you considered adding PureTeq to the mix? It's Acqua on N4
Old 13th June 2019
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Have you considered adding PureTeq to the mix? It's Acqua on N4
Already tried to, but the trial version was acting up. I may revisit it at some point (too busy at the moment), along with Purple2
Old 4 weeks ago
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New version of Rule Tec with antialiasing!

https://www.noiseash.com/downloads/
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