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I'll cease with the **** you statements the moment you stop telling my "YOU Have this problem" Dr. Phil They occur because as you critique me I dont believe you're worthy of my intellect. YOU have already said you dont read the entire post.
I read the posts ... some of the vitriol I skim.
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Economics is about alot more than money.. It's about equal educational spending, it's about having money to spend for drug treatment, IT's about a child having a better life. It's about funding for higher education. It's about being able to better raise your kids because you can provide for them adequately.
Blacks were given everything but economic equality.
No one has ever been given economic equality ... I am not a Rockefeller, or a Hilton ... is that a race problem? Am I crying foul?
It's our lot in life to have inequity from birth and to work on JOY form there ... JOY is not about money.
You ASSUME that equality is a God given right ... and it's not. It's a good goal for a social service worker or a leftist politician. So run for office.
On the way to any goal, being a GOOD person is key. How many opportunies are missed by black Americans because their attitude is harmonious with the entitlement and conspiracy you preach?
Here's a mind blower ... Just for fun, imagine a planet where we all CHOOSE our parents ... how does that spin your theories? Maybe we choose the whole damn thing for the challenge and reasons only knowable after death and to God?
But back to your points ... the problem with black America is in
individual families. Look no further than anyones family for all their issues and MAJOR limitations. If I knew yours better I'd be eating away at your assumptions by exposing your family history and what it did to you. All "theories" are motivated by family pain and family lessons. Society is another word for family. But Family is FIRST
A consumer based culture will wreck havoc on people if they lack fundamental values from a sense of family. This is NOT economic and it's not about unfair opportunity...
My mother is from a dirt poor trailer in Kentucky, and
a poor white woman born in 1939 had no head start on any poor black male born after 1965.
Face it ... you're crying "EQUALITY!" and you're an economist in a regulated free market. Humorously ironic, or painfully hypocritical, I'm not sure which. Maybe they let you believe in equality in economic college these days? I'm shocked.
As far as white women making more of Affirmative Action ... maybe they were ALSO due something, as women, for THOUSANDS of years of injustice.
So take a number ... you'll get your turn if you dont blow it with arrogance and anger from conspiracy theories and entitlement energy.
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We still make comparatively less, we still have more people in prison and in poverty. I believe Economic equality was denied for a reason and this is to a large degree the ultimate cause of many of the problems that we have. If you dissagree then fine. But dont knock my wish for economic equality.
Economic equality was never "denied" in some conspiritorial fashion. It's RESISTED, but that's just power talking.
So your major premise is flawed. No conspiracy, just animals.
You see as RACIAL what is ultimately ANIMAL ... hoarding is pervasive, it's PREDICATBLE. It's BIOLOGICAL, not social.
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Hell I'm only seeking EQUALITY. why is this a bad thing?
It's not bad, but it's an IDEAL, and by defintion NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
And in the meantime we can feel ENTITLEMENT or ACCEPT life and work for JOY (which is not money). Your view promotes a racially motivated conspiracy theory and a reaction to same. That's dangerous and ignorant.
White people as a whole are not smart enough or cooperative enough with each other to plan to keep you down or to execute any plan.
Yet you assume this.
Teenagers AND terrorists EXPECT justice and lash out when it is not available on their timeline ... adults accept the SLOW pace and FEAR based nature of EVERYBODY.
Thus my connection between Teenagers, Terrorists and the Idealism, Conspiracy Theories and Anger you speak from.
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Black America is comparatively in a worse position as a whole than the rest of America. I offer solutions for those problems.
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I have yet to read what your proposed solution is, you seem to only be good for pointing out what you feel my flaws are DR. Phil. Where are your solutions????
You're seemingly blind to the MANY offerings of solutions ... they are all over these posts. In between the lines.
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Black america has unique problems
Unique or MORE important?
Our solutions are only as good as our premises... thus I look first to the premise in my critiques. MANY of your assumtions are flawed, so the solutions are not as soluable as they could be with better assumptions.
Everyone has "unique problems", and if you want to put black Americas unique issues ahead of any other minorities unique problems, or ahead of Americas unique problems in the world, or ahead of any INDIVIDUALS unique problems ... I wont go there. In the end, every transaction is between individuals and all problems are important IF we can effect them positively.
Any individual, given sufficient education or intelligence will prosper. And this education begins and ends in the home. The rest is paper education, theories and ideas that are NOT real. Some live it, those who cant, teach.
You see the world as black and non-black. I see it as human beings ... individuals ... dealing with each other and learning prejudice and expectations in family systems BEFORE they enter the social systems ... and after all that, dealing with each other individually with opportunities and through injustices and inequity.
Take a number! Lots of injustice. To work on it - noble. To expect it - naive. To predicate from a conspiracy to keep blacks down - dangerous.
This is the same bull**** the Christian Right uses against Liberals, Karl Rove for example, "They hate us, they're out to destroy our way of life". Come to think of it it sounds like the battle cry of the jewish forum member as well "they want to destroy us."
The sad truth is, everyone is afraid of what is 'different' to them, and when we act on fear for power then EVERYONE loses. Insisting that our IDENTITY lies in our differences as you do is not helping anyone.