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Priest unrepentent after crucifying nun
Old 19th June 2005
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Priest unrepentent after crucifying nun

More proof that religion sucks....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4107524.stm

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...9098341918B265
Old 20th June 2005
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Originally Posted by De chromium cob

as much as I agree that this is a heinous act, the statement you make is a bit like me linking to a charles manson story and saying , man, people without religion suck.

This is not what the God of jacob intended, IMHO.


* Please tell me I didnt just start another religion thread...........
Old 20th June 2005
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as much as I agree that this is a heinous act, the statement you make is a bit like me linking to a charles manson story and saying , man, people without religion suck.

.......
One of the ways Manson brainwashed his followers was to say that he was the second coming of Jesus. http://ygraine.membrane.com/enterhtm...es_Manson.html
Old 20th June 2005
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Yes, Religion sucks.

God is good.

why not put your energy into celebrating the positive aspects of life?

lot's of ugly in the world. Lot's of beautiful too.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Old 20th June 2005
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Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

The bathwater's disgusting and the baby is invisible (and probably doesn't exist).
Old 20th June 2005
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One of the ways Manson brainwashed his followers was to say that he was the second coming of Jesus. http://ygraine.membrane.com/enterhtm...es_Manson.html
Obviously, his point was not taken.

He simply meant what you are saying is equivalent to someone else saying:

insert heinous act that was done by insert evil unreligious person was awful. Man, people without religion really suck.

There are assholes everywhere. Teachers, police officers (especially them..), presidents, etc. etc. The next time a teacher molests a student (or any other ****ed up act), maybe we can start saying "further proof that people who major in education suck."

You made a serious blanket statement and owe some people an apology.

Old 20th June 2005
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Obviously, his point was not taken.

He simply meant what you are saying is equivalent to someone else saying:

insert heinous act that was done by insert evil unreligious person was awful. Man, people without religion really suck.
Yeah, I get what he was trying to say- I just don't think its valid. (and it certainly isn't valid in Mansons case)
Your so called "unreligious evil person" does bad things for monetary gain, anger, perversion, etc....But not very often in the name of being nonreligious. Religious people often do very evil things just because they got it in their heads that some invisible dude in the sky will think its a good thing to do (or at least that's what they blame it on).
Religion is the only thing in the world that can make outrageous claims with absolutely no proof whatsoever and still be taken seriously by society.


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You made a serious blanket statement and owe some people an apology.
That's too bad, 'cause those people aren't going to get one.
They offend me all the time and I've never gotten an apology....
Old 20th June 2005
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A lot of things are blanketed under the name of religion. Fundamentalists here in the States pose as great a threat to this country as radical fundamentalists abroad.

At a time when the faces of organized religions are on display by all the wrong advocates, it's understandable why a lot of people like cob are embittered.

But in the end, neither side's views are completely justified. For as many priests that are molesting boys, there are 10,000 others that thanklessly save the lives of inner city kids, raise a colossal amount of funding for global hunger, give the homeless a home, and numerous other actions that will always be overlooked for the few priests that molest boys.

And that principle applies to many things in life unfortunately.

But religious power has been taken way too far. This Good vs. Evil bull**** has been the cause of wars for centuries, but in this day and age, it's bound to self-destruct unless religious leaders in power are scaled back. And that's the truth.
Old 20th June 2005
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Originally Posted by De chromium cob
Religion is the only thing in the world that can make outrageous claims with absolutely no proof whatsoever and still be taken seriously by society.
Amen heh
Old 20th June 2005
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Originally Posted by De chromium cob
They offend me all the time and I've never gotten an apology....
yeah... no ****. we have some f'uckin baptist church running ads on kids cartoon stations here about going to hell and burning unless you take jesus blah blah blah... so now i have my kid asking about jesus and god.

impossible concept to explain to a 5yo when even the oldest and wisest on the planet doesnt REALLY have a clue as to what it REALLY is [if anything but the dillusion of man]

of course we tell him the guy in the commercial is a severly mentally distrubed person depserately in need of psychological help....

regardless, if porn cant be played on kids stations, than neither should religion.
Old 20th June 2005
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the big religion thread part 2............
Old 20th June 2005
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Amen heh

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Old 20th June 2005
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of course we tell him the guy in the commercial is a severly mentally distrubed person depserately in need of psychological help....
So you're telling him the truth.... That's the best approach! If only they would make those little Jesus wafers out of Lithium.....
Old 20th June 2005
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Luis Bunuel Made Films For Those Confused By Religion

In staying positive
I would say

I like the beard and I think the black headband really works with it
can this father daniel sing? can he shout?

alpha - i feel for you - i don't have any kids, but i can't imagine christian advertising
on a cartoon network......how do you explain that to your kid??

the story reminded me of the amazing french acress muni being nailed to the cross in "the milky way" by bunuel.....

- jack
Old 20th June 2005
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i'm adding to my previous post in saying that i had a vision while i was in the
shower... a vision of father daniel with ace frehley......(ace in full make up)
they were standing together, laughing, there was a breeze, they were smoking
crack cocaine...i don't know why i thought this ....i don't wish to offend either the
religious or any kiss fans.....
the day started strange... i woke up dreaming of a beige suede piano and there
was a woman i couldn't see playing it and singing "see what i can do with my suede
music box..."
Old 20th June 2005
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They offend me all the time and I've never gotten an apology....
I offered an apology in that other thread, and you acknowledged it. Is there more than one kind of they?
Old 20th June 2005
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****. this was not what I intended to start, and for the record, I am in no way looking for an apology.

Caj, you hit it on the head.

Religion/God/Philosophy/Athesim all have the same major problem, people have to interpet what they are all about, and then feel the need to convert all they meet to thier new found viewpoint... I have enough to do to try to live my own life according to my beliefs, and tech my own kids what I think they need to know without getting into someone elses life..... its just not who I am. It is a good day indeed to realize that you are secure enough in what you think/believe/etc. that you dont need to validate yourself anymore.. there are more than enough things in life that are clear cut right and wrong but still ignored to even start trying to focus on semantics, IMHO... lets deal with the obivious first. maybe if we can actually make peoples lives better ( feed em, clothe em, make em have a safe place to do whatever) then we can talk about the rest of it...
Old 20th June 2005
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you know, normally i wouldn't get involved in these discussions about religion and beliefs, i am not going to share my own beliefs but i will say this:

WTF!!!

i mean, like my mom, and probably just about every mom on the planet used to say, it's only funny 'till someone loses an eye, well, it's only religion until someone gets crucified and DIES.
now it's a religious belief that finds that macheavelian methods of "healing" are completely acceptable. and that without remorse.

ignorance+religion+power = 23 year old woman dead by crucifixion.

FM

i can't even sign this...
Old 20th June 2005
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I offered an apology in that other thread, and you acknowledged it. Is there more than one kind of they?
You have never offended me- that was cool what you said in the other thread but its the James Dobsons and Pat Robertsons et al (extremists basically) of this world that offend me. When they apologize and stop their extremist brainwashing bull****, then I'll be happy. Until then I'll fight their kind of small minded thinking with every fiber of my being.
Old 20th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by De chromium cob
So you're telling him the truth.... That's the best approach! If only they would make those little Jesus wafers out of Lithium.....
fact is, if i were a satanist... i would not be allowed to run ads on TV [especially kids stations], of course i dont believe in satan either. he is merely the nemesis in the fictional tale of god, heaven, the devil and hell wrapped up in a fairy tale book called the bible.


i also think we need to remove the bible from court proceedings as it is a corruption of church and state... me swear on a bible? means about as much as me swearing on a pile of ****.... god dammit.
Old 20th June 2005
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fact is, if i were a satanist... i would not be allowed to run ads on TV .
Boy would I love to have piles of money laying around so I could try....Then take the stations to court when they refuse to air them. What would be more funny than saturday morning pro satin commercials?! heh
"Hi kids, I'm SATAN and I've gotten a bad rap lately, but I'm really a pretty fun guy! Join my church or be condemned to eternity with a bunch of stuck up, no fun prudes!"
Old 20th June 2005
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is SATIN like the gay porn name for SATAN? now that would REALLY tweak those religious people.
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When they apologize and stop their extremist brainwashing bull****, then I'll be happy. Until then I'll fight their kind of small minded thinking with every fiber of my being.
Quote:
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Religion is the only thing in the world that can make outrageous claims with absolutely no proof whatsoever and still be taken seriously by society..
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Old 20th June 2005
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is SATIN like the gay porn name for SATAN? now that would REALLY tweak those religious people.
LOL! I tried to squeeze a post in real fast in while doing three other things and skipped the proof reading... You don't really want me to start spell checking YOUR posts, now do you? heh
Old 20th June 2005
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You have never offended me- that was cool what you said in the other thread but its the James Dobsons and Pat Robertsons et al (extremists basically) of this world that offend me. When they apologize and stop their extremist brainwashing bull****, then I'll be happy. Until then I'll fight their kind of small minded thinking with every fiber of my being.
No worries... I'm not trying to be all pissy about it either, the abuse of power (which is what I would call this insanity) is a fight well worth taking on. Like others have said, though, there is no semblance between this action and the practice of neighbourly love and compassion that many of us live out day to day.
(Mercedes, maannn.....)
Old 20th June 2005
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*sigh*
Old 21st June 2005
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Quote:
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You don't really want me to start spell checking YOUR posts, now do you? heh
no, but that one was too funny to pass up.


he's SSSA-TIN! watch your back,
he's SSSA-TIN! dont drop the soap....
he's SSSA-TIN! he likes the crack
he's SSSA-TIN! and he is the pope!

MJ sold his soul to satin for pop stardom
the little boys too young to know a hardon
while priests are speakin pig latin
they all love molesting like SSSA-TIN!

he's SSSA-TIN! watch your back,
he's SSSA-TIN! dont drop the soap....
he's SSSA-TIN! he likes the crack
he's SSSA-TIN! and he is the pope!
Old 21st June 2005
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Quote:
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(and probably doesn't exist).


I assume your referring to Jesus?
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