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News: Gearslutz and all small sites to be gone by 2012?
Old 2nd June 2008
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News: Gearslutz and all small sites to be gone by 2012?

I Power

I'm not sure how accurate this information is, but its infuriating.

I can't believe that the Internet that furthers all of mankind so much through the abundance of information (like forums such as this one), may be reduced to a few mainstream channels like Television.

If this is true and actually happens...

I don't even know.
Old 2nd June 2008
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thats hillarious
Old 2nd June 2008
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Did you watch the vid?

I mean- I am the first person to acknowledge that you shouldn't believe the **** you hear on the net. Most of it infact, is usually wrong to some degree (just like word of mouth).

However- I do seriously see a huge potential profit from this if ISP's, who have complete control over our internet access, agree with eachother to pull off this sort of program. If they did, they would make tons of money.

Of course, I can't see how anyone would be happy about it- but if the ISP's own our connection to the internet, and they group together to squeeze us for money- It doesnt sound so far fetched to me.

It's definately within the realm of possibility. And from a business point of view- it would certainly be a profitable move.

Besides- I haven't heard much from the ISP's lately- so they must be up to something!
Old 2nd June 2008
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sounds a bit Chicken Little to me, but there is some truth to corporations choking us with their purse strings.
I have a slightly more optimistic view, I think data and information desire to be free flowing and as technology has grown and become more easily accessed and sophisticated the dissemination of ideas and knowledge has become more far flung and widespread. Of course it's the access to content that people have always had control over, whether it's books, newspapers, tv or internet. Corporations have been able to stifle or suppress things in the media they publish, but the internet has been the wild west for content (for good and bad). ISPs are making money already, I can foresee a time when they will want to charge based on usage, but business flourishes when people have choice (200 cable channels, really? who actually uses all of that?) so I don't think they will have too much incentive to limit what we can see. These schemes though usually always seem to have the effect of restricting access to the poor, who then remain poor due to lack of educational resources, because by charging for usage they are making the system less democratic.
Old 2nd June 2008
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sounds a bit Chicken Little to me.
I have to agree.
They predicted that right now the US government would outlaw hard storage of data. This never happened.
I remember Y2K and how the whole world thought life would be forever changed. The only thing that changed was my cash register crapped out. It moved the decimal point two spaces.

The people and industry would never let this happen.
Old 2nd June 2008
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2012, we'll all either be dead or will have serious survival issues anyway.
Old 3rd June 2008
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well "they" predict all sorts of things. Sometimes "they" are right, sometimes "they" are wrong.. So Y2K and data storage have nothing to do with this.

It does seem a little crazy the more I think about it but if all ISPs agreed to do this, I think they could pull it off.
Old 3rd June 2008
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well "they" predict all sorts of things. Sometimes "they" are right, sometimes "they" are wrong.. So Y2K and data storage have nothing to do with this.

It does seem a little crazy the more I think about it but if all ISPs agreed to do this, I think they could pull it off.

do you honestly think IP's will be around in 4 years
Old 3rd June 2008
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I think it would be cool to invent something totally free to who ever
and piss a bunch of greedy fucs off
Old 3rd June 2008
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The more I think about it, I don't see how the ISP's would be able to continue this practice, as with the ever increasing advances in wireless technology- I dont think it will be long before ISPs from other countries will be able to service the US. so even if the US ISP's coordinate this- we can still get our service from other suppliers? I dont know- the more I think about it, the more rediculous it seems. I can't imagine the legislators not stepping in and telling the ISPs to screw themselves by trying to squash the single greatest advancement in computer technology thus far.
Old 3rd June 2008
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This is a crock. My ISP already charges me plenty! They will just keep raising the price. The content isn't going away, it is only growing.
Old 3rd June 2008
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If it was only about the money, I wouldn't be too worried about it. (Yeah, this coming for the guy who uses 'Follow the Money, Follow the Money' for a mantra.) I think the real issue here is information. Information is power, and all the various governments (US included) don't want The People to have that power. They especially don't like us comparing notes -- "...they let you do WHAT in Botswana? Man, were getting hosed over here!"

How could They do it? Just ask the average person in China. Wait, you can't. You have no access to them, and they have none to you. Their government likes it that way. Make no mistake, our government would like it, too, but it's a tougher sell in the US. Here, they're going to have to get the spin just right in order to sucker the Sheeple into buying it. When you start hearing about a bunch of 'Internet Kiddie Porn' sites getting busted, and maybe some sort of 'Cyber-Terrorist' attack on the Nightly News, bend over and get ready: They are going to have to 'protect' US from all the evils of the Internet.
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actually allot of money is spent on educating people

its bad education thats not good
Old 3rd June 2008
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I have to agree.
They predicted that right now the US government would outlaw hard storage of data. This never happened.
I remember Y2K and how the whole world thought life would be forever changed. The only thing that changed was my cash register crapped out. It moved the decimal point two spaces.

The people and industry would never let this happen.
No, not true. The ONLY reason it didn't happen yet is because they couldn't do that yet, because the circumstances aren't right. Most important is that AT&T WANTS TO DO IT. The moment the ISPs have control over the content, it's the people AND industry that will be faced with a de facto situation, one without alternatives. The ISP will milk companies big and small, and on the other side, have the consumers pay as well. Plus they can regulate content. For them it's a win-win situation, please realise that they are not in the business to guarantee impartiallity, or independence of customers.

Old 3rd June 2008
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2012, we'll all either be dead or will have serious survival issues anyway.
Also, (and I hate to further the bad news, but) there will more than likely be a rookie salary cap put in place in the NFL by then and a potential lock-out that could feasibly take place because of it during the 2011 season, which as we all know, spills into 2012 when you factor in the postseason.

Strange days are ahead of us. This lockout will take place and we won't even be able to access the internet to read up on it . . . at the same time dying from global warming, broke from gas prices, suffering through another Hilary campaign, and watching the Mayan Calendar come to an end. It's looking pretty grim.
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2012, we'll all either be dead or will have serious survival issues anyway.
Lol
that's a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy isn't it?

I'd like to think I'll be part of a smaller, but saner society that is better prepared for long term development, than the consumer monstrum that demands our labour right now.
Old 3rd June 2008
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Check into the Mayan calendar...they were light years ahead of us.

History & info - the Mayan calendar
Old 3rd June 2008
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Also, (and I hate to further the bad news, but) there will more than likely be a rookie salary cap put in place in the NFL by then and a potential lock-out that could feasibly take place because of it during the 2011 season, which as we all know, spills into 2012 when you factor in the postseason.

Strange days are ahead of us. This lockout will take place and we won't even be able to access the internet to read up on it . . . at the same time dying from global warming, broke from gas prices, suffering through another Hilary campaign, and watching the Mayan Calendar come to an end. It's looking pretty grim.
heh
Old 3rd June 2008
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the future is depend on what people believe

theres all kinds of nuts that change the future by telling people tales
( bible ) some people are Dependant on dead soles
imagine how fulfilling their frame of thought is
ultimately succeeding more dead people


the mind is very interesting don't ruin it by believing stupid things
Old 3rd June 2008
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Mayan-Shmayan.

Life existed billions of years before humans and some dumb archaic calendar can't predict the end of the world. We are lightyears ahead of the Mayans, they knew nothing compared to us now. They couldn't even look at the sun without ruining their eyes. We can with our telescopes and filters and hell, we can even see it from outside of our atmosphere.

Anyways....
Listen to Matt.
Old 3rd June 2008
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Mayan-Shmayan.

Life existed billions of years before humans and some dumb archaic calendar can't predict the end of the world. We are lightyears ahead of the Mayans, they knew nothing compared to us now. They couldn't even look at the sun without ruining their eyes. We can with our telescopes and filters and hell, we can even see it from outside of our atmosphere.

Anyways....
don't Listen to Matt.
OMG you are SO WRONG...the Mayans/Egyptians did everything without the modern tech. we have today and we still don't know how they did it.
machines do EVERYTHING for us nowdays...therefore we have slowly been dumbing ourselves down...
Old 4th June 2008
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OMG you are SO WRONG...the Mayans/Egyptians did everything without the modern tech. we have today and we still don't know how they did it.
machines do EVERYTHING for us nowdays...therefore we have slowly been dumbing ourselves down...
were the Mayans into sacrifice ?
also did the Egyptians practice slave labor?
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were the Mayans into sacrifice ?
also did the Egyptians practice slave labor?
yes
Old 4th June 2008
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I'm sorry, the mayans didnt have computers, they didnt have cars, they didnt have refridgerators, they didnt know anything about bacteria, viruses, cancer.

The Mayans don't know **** compared to us. Maybe humans are getting lazier in general, but we still know more accurate information than the Mayans ever did.

Given, the Mayans were advanced FOR THEIR TIME, they wouldn't stand a chance in todays world- they'd be just like every other indigenous peoples. They certainly wouldn't be "smarter" than you or me.

All the Mayans have is a superstitious calendar. and they hurled themselves down the steps of that calendar- real intelligent.
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I'm sorry, the mayans didnt have computers, they didnt have cars, they didnt have refridgerators, they didnt know anything about bacteria, viruses, cancer.

The Mayans don't know **** compared to us. Maybe humans are getting lazier in general, but we still know more accurate information than the Mayans ever did.

Given, the Mayans were advanced FOR THEIR TIME, they wouldn't stand a chance in todays world- they'd be just like every other indigenous peoples. They certainly wouldn't be "smarter" than you or me.

All the Mayans have is a superstitious calendar. and they hurled themselves down the steps of that calendar- real intelligent.
OMG we ARE getting dumber!
sheesh.
Old 4th June 2008
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OMG we ARE getting dumber!
sheesh.
Especially when we replace easy to type phrases with acronyms and incorrectly use capitalization in place of italics for emphasis..
Old 4th June 2008
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Especially when we replace easy to type phrases with acronyms and incorrectly use capitalization in place of italics for emphasis..
That is true. Well oF couRse y.m.m.v. heh
Old 4th June 2008
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go ahead bash away...be a#%holes.

hide behind the forum and bash your frustrations out on any person who opens the door.

pretty mean, ya'll can be behind this wall...

If we met in person I don't think you'd be talking to me this way...fuuck
Old 4th June 2008
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2012, we'll all either be dead or will have serious survival issues anyway.
i hope aliens come.


i only have two words to describe that video.

1. hippies

2. hoaky
dfegad
Old 4th June 2008
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I'm sorry, the mayans didnt have computers, they didnt have cars, they didnt have refridgerators, they didnt know anything about bacteria, viruses, cancer.
perhaps you should do a bit more research on these sorts of topics before making such bold statements.

of course the mayans didn't know about cancer. that's because "Cancer was practically unknown until compulsory vaccination with cowpox vaccine began to be introduced."

which i believe was around 1774. long after ancient civilizations (such as the mayans) disappeared.

in short, cancer was likely *genetically engineered* by humans....

****just like aids was*****

and feel free to dispute that, so i can prove you wrong again.

=D

Last edited by GILFOIL; 4th June 2008 at 10:14 AM.. Reason: it's early.
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