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Old 30th April 2011
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Apple Beats Microsoft’s Profits For The First Time In 20 Years!

For the first time in 20 years, Apple’s quarterly profits were higher than Microsoft’s.

Alhough Microsoft’s earnings last quarter were up overall, revenue from the Redmond company’s Windows operating system, a key moneymaker, fell 4.4 percent. The sagging Windows sales were mitigated by Microsoft Office sales, which was Microsoft’s top performing sector for the quarter. Experts attributed the declining Windows sales to the rise of tablet computers, which have cut into the sale of personal computers. While tablets have sold well — especially Apple’s wildly popular iPad, Microsoft has struggled to serve up a viable tablet competitor or tablet operating system.

“People could think about the tablet as a replacement for their traditional PC,” said Harry Wang, director of mobile research at Parks Associates. “In some circumstances it could significantly impact PC sales because of cannibalization.”

With tablet sales showing no sign of slowing, Microsoft risks losing more and more money if it doesn’t adapt to new patterns of consumer computer buying. Eighty percent of the personal computer market runs Windows, but Microsoft’s share of the tablet market is zero percent, according to Parks Associates, a technology research and consulting firm.

When it comes to tablets, Apple, which netted $5.99 billion in revenue last quarter to Microsoft’s $5.23 billion, is the indisputable king. Sales of the iPad, which competitors and critics initially derided as a novelty item, have led Apple to hold onto 75 percent of tablet market share. iPad sales were lower than expected last quarter, but the company noted that it had sold every single iPad it produced, suggesting that demand for the device is still exceptionally high. Experts forecast Apple will ship 45 million iPads in 2011, tripling the 15 million tablets it sold in its nine months out in 2010.
Why should Microsoft care? More iPad sales mean fewer PC sales.
“Tablets could impact up to 30 percent of PC sales in the US alone.” Harry Wang, director of mobile research at Parks Associates, projected.
Even though the tablet market is booming, Microsoft has expressed doubts about investing heavily in the market.

In a recent interview, Craig Mundie, Microsoft’s global chief research and strategy officer, said, “I don’t know whether the big screen tablet pad category is going to remain with us or not.”

The longer Microsoft waits to enter the tablet market, the harder it will be for the company to crack into an aggressively expanding market, analysts warned.

“These things don’t happen over night. They take effort; they take planning,” said Michael Gartenberg, an analyst with Gartner. “They’re going to have to react at an even faster pace if they want to capture the hearts and minds of consumers.”

Tablets are not all Microsoft has to worry about. Though it revamped its mobile operating system, Windows Phone 7, last February, the software was late to the game, according to analysts. Windows Phone 7 arrived three years behind the iPhone, which debuted in 2007 and well after Google’s Android had already gained significant market share. Microsoft has partnered with Nokia in an attempt to reclaim the mobile market, but Nokia itself is quickly losing share to nimbler rivals, many of which use the Android operating system.

As Apple's Profits Surpass Microsoft's, All Eyes Are On iPad
Old 6th May 2011
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yes!!!!!!
Old 6th May 2011
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Hahahaha!
So the money grubbing corporation that sells over priced, pretty crippleware out performs the company that sold it's soul and develops sophisticated trojan catchers.

I'm seeing iPads show up in school classrooms now and I have a serious concern over this. We're creating a society of consumers in place of a society of programmers. India and China will bury the US in technological development in the next decade. While our kids play Angry Birds on a system that took computing back 5 years their kids will be writing code that could hack and steal our credit card info.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-iPads or anti-Apple, they're all just tools or toys and have their appropriate applications and places for use...
Old 6th May 2011
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Aren't they really the same thing these days? Apple's new climb to the top started with a Microsoft stock purchase which saved Apple from the trash bin in the 90s. Now Mac has the same parts as any PC.... Intel processors, FoxCon motherboards, NVidia... yawn... etc.

Gone are the days of meaningful differences. Now both are money grubbing companies compeating for the mentally challenged masses.

Totally agree with the "society of consumers" commentary. Very few people know much about the computer systems they advocate. It's just a personal identity crutch.
Old 7th May 2011
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Aren't they really the same thing these days? Apple's new climb to the top started with a Microsoft stock purchase which saved Apple from the trash bin in the 90s. Now Mac has the same parts as any PC.... Intel processors, FoxCon motherboards, NVidia... yawn... etc.

Gone are the days of meaningful differences. Now both are money grubbing companies compeating for the mentally challenged masses.

Totally agree with the "society of consumers" commentary. Very few people know much about the computer systems they advocate. It's just a personal identity crutch.
If it interests you at all, read Douglas Rushkoff's "Program or Be Programmed." He puts forth a fairly compelling case for how computer technology and social media will shape us rather than us shape it if we become complacent users of technology and not active developers. Apple is already doing this with their App Store, which works well for mobile handheld computing I suppose, but when you have actual computers running these crippled versions of software people are only using expensive computers within a narrow field that's constrained not by what they want, or could do, but by what a company will sell them. We need the sophistication to participate for technology to remain democratic and we're losing that edge quickly.
Not trying to be gloom and doom, but I think this is what is being heralded by this news. That said I think the Mac OSX is a great step over anything Windows has done. Apple at least has a deep commitment to design.
Old 7th May 2011
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Apple at least has a deep commitment to design.
By that do you mean they have really nice looking cases?
Old 7th May 2011
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Hahahaha!
Easily amused are we?

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So the money grubbing corporation that sells over priced, pretty crippleware out performs the company that sold it's soul and develops sophisticated trojan catchers.
Grubbing? I think you meant "Grabbing"
Over priced? Crippleware? People buy the stuff because they like it and it suits their needs. No one forces them. So Apple must be getting something right to be doing so well these days.

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I'm seeing iPads show up in school classrooms now and I have a serious concern over this.
Perhaps you should attend class more often.

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We're creating a society of consumers in place of a society of programmers.
Who wants a "Society of programmers" ? Not me thats for sure.
These days the majority of people just want to use the stuff, not program it before they can use it.
Still, if programming is your thing, Apple has various development kits and terminal/command line nerdery that you can make use of.

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India and China will bury the US in technological development in the next decade.
They are already good for manufacturing. But development? I don't think so.

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While our kids play Angry Birds on a system that took computing back 5 years their kids will be writing code that could hack and steal our credit card info.


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Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-iPads or anti-Apple,
No, of course not

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they're all just tools or toys and have their appropriate applications and places for use...
Toys? Thats like saying "They are tools or instruments of porn" because people can even use Apple kit to access picts of naked people with a selection of root vegetables inserted into their backsides..
Apple is essentially still selling computers. It's up to you what you use it for.
And like it or not, Pro audio computing is still dominated by Macs. So a music tech forum is about the last place you'll get away with trolling Apple.
Old 8th May 2011
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Easily amused are we?



Grubbing? I think you meant "Grabbing"
Over priced? Crippleware? People buy the stuff because they like it and it suits their needs. No one forces them. So Apple must be getting something right to be doing so well these days.
Yeah that's not really my point, but if you're fine with paying more for something that does less, by all means.


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Perhaps you should attend class more often.
*sigh*


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Who wants a "Society of programmers" ? Not me thats for sure.
These days the majority of people just want to use the stuff, not program it before they can use it.
Still, if programming is your thing, Apple has various development kits and terminal/command line nerdery that you can make use of.
Good for you. Program or be programmed.


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They are already good for manufacturing. But development? I don't think so.
That's already changing, on both sides.


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No, of course not
*sigh*


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Toys? Thats like saying "They are tools or instruments of porn" because people can even use Apple kit to access picts of naked people with a selection of root vegetables inserted into their backsides..
Apple is essentially still selling computers. It's up to you what you use it for.
And like it or not, Pro audio computing is still dominated by Macs. So a music tech forum is about the last place you'll get away with trolling Apple.
Reading comprehension my boy, that's what I said, they're all tools and I was mainly referencing iPads, not Macpros. Keeping my points in context helps you avoid knocking down the strawman you've created out of my post.
I didn't say anything about the value of Macs in pro-audio computing, the trolling is your baggage you're lugging to the party. I even stated they're just tools (wow! I agreed with you!). If you don't see the danger in the way technology is being restricted and marketed, fine. Just leave your obsession with porn out of this.
Old 8th May 2011
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Jeremy C +2
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Old 8th May 2011
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Harry Wang!!

LOL!!

Is that article real?
Old 9th May 2011
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thanks jeremy, the book you suggested is very interesting
Old 18th May 2011
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I like freedom flexibility and choice. I choose Windows due to that flexibility and exisiting tools that are not available on apple. Have a macbook pro but MS OS get's used a lot more than OSX...again availibility and choice of what is out there. Reliability since Windows7 for me is superb and haven't had a BSOD since upgrading faulty ram over a year ago. Looked into Linux whilst open source, free and usable again not enough to keep me pumped.

Also I travel abroad a reasonable amount and will buy a sim card for that country, iphone is locked and dictates what i must pay whilst abroad for my calls.

I like the look of a lot of apple products but to put it in politcal terms and sillyness

Microsoft = Democracy/Diplomacy You can you choose
Apple = Dictatorship/Communism You must You will

heh
Old 18th May 2011
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ahahah that's one of the most silly and hilarious statement I ever heard!

The only one reason why you can find more thing for windows compared to OSX is because windows is 90% of the market and OSX 10%

About democracy and dictatorships..... man, OSX is a open software, meaning you can change it if you are able to program, Windows is an encrypted software, meaning you can't change anything of it because you can't see the code

If there is a democracy and a dictatorship it is exactly the opposite, windows is "you must" do thing as windows want, osx "you can" do things as osx tells you, but if you don't like you can change it, that's the only one that can be completely customized, that's why so many people do apps that are so flexible and so specifically designed to solve a problem, because they can adapt everything to their programming needs and tell to the computer to do what they want how they want

Old 22nd May 2011
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Old 22nd May 2011
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"The iPad is nothing more than a "Fad" device"
Steve Ballmer CEO Microsoft April 6, 2010

Microsoft believes Apple iPad is nothing more than a fad | Live Technology Guide
That's why they are always playing catch up over past decade. No vision. We all knew Microsoft's attempts like Zune and Windows phone
were doomed from the beginning.

or like the ill-fated Zune and Windows Phone 7, has Microsoft missed the boat once again in developing products people want to use?
Old 22nd May 2011
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I recall the old debates about Macs or PC's for the classroom--I used to tell people the only reason for school systems to purchase PCs was if they expected the students to go into the IT fields, haha. Then you used to hear the argument, "the business world is all PC's so why should kids learn on Macs"? The obvious answer for me was, since PC's are always an imitation, at least superficially, of the Mac GUI, with about a 4-5 year lag, that's actually an argument to purchase Macs.

At any rate I always saw the debate as one of two distinct business models: I think Apple, usually but not always succeeding, just wanted to be the cutting edge best, cutting through all the unnecessary garbage so the user never had to, generated from the personal and passionate drive of Jobs himself.

On the other hand, MS dominated the market with a strategy of being a cash-cow for the colossal support, service, maintenance, security, and training industries it generated. IT would always in turn recommend Wintel, in a feedback loop.

I've always appreciated being a beneficiary of the Apple model, although I sense some blurring of these lines nowadays that the competitors and games are changing.
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