Duran Duran Save a prayer arpeggio
Old 27th December 2013
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Duran Duran Save a prayer arpeggio

How to achieve this sound ?
I don't need exactly the same sound, but the same mood & groove

What synths ?
except the JP8 ( the one used )

What effects ?
sure a chorus & a delay, but this delay seems hard to recreate

The sequence :

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Maybe it's just a coincidence (or a common motif between the two songs), but I think you're remembering the beginning keyboard part to "Save a Prayer", except that you transposed it up a major fifth (it's actually D, E, F, A, C, A, C, [A] IIRC).
Thanks for posting your sounds
Old 27th December 2013
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This was done with an SH-2. Any 2-osc synth can do it, though to get the real tone you need 2 osc and sub or 3 osc. It's a combination of square and pulse waves set octaves apart run thru chorus and delay (in this case the RE-501 Chorus Echo) and at the end he adds some portamento to make it all bendy. Most soft synths can do this sound as well.
Old 27th December 2013
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Most soft synths can do this sound as well.
Yeah it comes with OP-X Pro II in the famous presets bank.

Old 27th December 2013
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Old 27th December 2013
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its actually not an arpeggio, its a sequence. It just uses delay, its pretty easy to re-create with any digital delay effect. I agree with the Synthman above....check out the you tube video its pretty cool.

Stephen
Old 27th December 2013
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I used to a have a patch on the K1 I liked for this.
Old 27th December 2013
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A bunch of years ago I programmed a similar patch on a CZ-101 using the 8 step envelopes to create the delay.
Old 27th December 2013
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A bunch of years ago I programmed a similar patch on a CZ-101 using the 8 step envelopes to create the delay.
Nice! Ah, the 101. My first synth back in 86(I think). One of the first sounds I tried to recreate with it was the lead from "Blade Runner Blues". Seems funny when I think about that now.
Old 28th December 2013
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Watch "Novation Supernova saves a prayer" on YouTube -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP1a...e_gdata_player
While the guy's patches sounded almost spot on, that was a really horrible tutorial. He doesn't mention how the initial patches were built up. It was pretty much just "you take this sound, add this effect, and there you have it."
Old 8th January 2014
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Recreated the intro sequence using Elektrostudio SxMJune softsynth.

Old 8th January 2014
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Recreated the intro sequence using Elektrostudio SxMJune softsynth.

well done.
Old 8th January 2014
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This was done with an SH-2. Any 2-osc synth can do it, though to get the real tone you need 2 osc and sub or 3 osc. It's a combination of square and pulse waves set octaves apart run thru chorus and delay (in this case the RE-501 Chorus Echo) and at the end he adds some portamento to make it all bendy. Most soft synths can do this sound as well.

Was it the RE-501? I always thought it was the 201... but you very well may be right, I can't remember where I got my initial info.

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Old 8th January 2014
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On tour in '84 and in the My Own Way video you can see he had the SRE-555 racked up with the SBF-325s and SPH-323. In the studio he has even to this day an RE-501.
Old 8th January 2014
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Two different sounds

I think the base sequence is JP8, the lead solo is the SH?
Old 8th January 2014
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I think the base sequence is JP8, the lead solo is the SH?
Nick Rhodes has confirmed in interviews that the sequenced part was done with the CSQ-100/SH-2 combo and that the Jup-8 does the lead line. The
high strings are from the Crumar performer.

Here's a live performance from '82:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6zF4vTwh3Y
Old 8th January 2014
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On tour in '84 and in the My Own Way video you can see he had the SRE-555 racked up with the SBF-325s and SPH-323. In the studio he has even to this day an RE-501.

Gotchya, thanks What's the differences between the RE-501 and 201 delay-wise (assuming that's what he was using it for, and not the reverb or chorus).

-a
Old 8th January 2014
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Delay is the same, but SRE-555 and RE-501 offered improved S/N ratio and noise reduction so they are more "clean" sounding than the 201. For those that want that dirty dubby sound the 201 is the one to get. But part of the joy of the 555/501 is the chorus - it's a really nice analog chorus similar to the SBF-325 chorus.
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While the guy's patches sounded almost spot on, that was a really horrible tutorial. He doesn't mention how the initial patches were built up. It was pretty much just "you take this sound, add this effect, and there you have it."
I think the OB plug-in sounded more spot on than the Supernova. IMO that is.
Old 9th January 2014
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Delay is the same, but SRE-555 and RE-501 offered improved S/N ratio and noise reduction so they are more "clean" sounding than the 201. For those that want that dirty dubby sound the 201 is the one to get. But part of the joy of the 555/501 is the chorus - it's a really nice analog chorus similar to the SBF-325 chorus.
Thanks

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