FINAL WORD: Moog Sub Phatty $999
Old 21st January 2013
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FINAL WORD: Moog Sub Phatty $999

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Old 21st January 2013
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That equates to about 750 euro - cheaper than the Slim Phatty. Seems too good to be true.
Old 21st January 2013
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Maybe it takes some getting used to but the proportion of the 2-octave keyboard vs. the wheel section really looks strange to me. It's screaming for at least 32 notes. I would also assume given the limited keyboard size and price this has the Minitaur's VCO range limitation.
Old 21st January 2013
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That equates to about 750 euro - cheaper than the Slim Phatty. Seems too good to be true.

I think you'll find that it actually equates to about 999 euro.
Old 21st January 2013
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^ yup Moog follows the Apple currency exchange rate of $1=1€
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At least the cutoff and resonance aren't the SAME knob this time
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749.89 Euros to be exact....

I'm in the USA, surprised the slim is so much overseas

Minitaur: $599
Slim Phatty: $795
SUB PHATTY: $999
Little Phatty: $1395
Old 21st January 2013
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^ yup Moog follows the Apple currency exchange rate of $1=1€
And that may well put alot of people off over this side of the ocean.

I was considering selling my SH-09 towards one of these, but if it ends up £999 against $999 they can forget it.

We really do get ripped off over here, particularly in UK.
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^ should be less in pounds (999€=£840) unless $1=£1?!! now that would be robbery..
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If the will do a Slim Sub Phatty for $699 or less I would be interested. The Sub takes too much valuable space for what it offers.
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749.89 Euros to be exact....

I'm in the USA, surprised the slim is so much overseas

Minitaur: $599
Slim Phatty: $795
SUB PHATTY: $999
Little Phatty: $1395

Very approximate conversion to a UK price is :-


Minitaur: $680-760
Slim Phatty: $970-1060
Little Phatty: $1675-1750
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At least the cutoff and resonance aren't the SAME knob this time
I think I suggested once to Moog when I visited them on the Messe that it should be possible for the Cutoff and Resonance button to be enabled at the same time, but I don't know if an OS update fixed that (if there were ever plans to do it). On the Waldorf Q rack this worked; you could press all the oscillator selection buttons simultaneously so that you could set waveform and tuning at the same time with just one row of knobs.

Besides, if they're two different knobs, you're not going to have any hands left for playing! (just kidding)
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the 25 keys are useless though imo.. they might as well made this a rack and cut off another 150-200 (but then it would cannibalize the slim) pretty sneaky
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^ yup Moog follows the Apple currency exchange rate of $1=1€
Have you ever heard of VAT?

And then there's the cost of shipping to Europe, which costs more than within the US.
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Besides, if they're two different knobs, you're not going to have any hands left for playing! (just kidding)

Ba doom tish!
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Have you ever heard of VAT?

And then there's the cost of shipping to Europe, which costs more than within the US.
i guess you have a point for Moog, but Apple produces everything in China so it's a thievery imo..
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i guess you have a point for Moog, but Apple produces everything in China so it's a thievery imo..
I thought that the all parts and pcb boards come from China (at least for the LP) and Moog is assembling everything together in the US.

If you want US build, you have to get something like DSI or studio electronics.
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^ should be less in pounds (999€=£840) unless $1=£1?!! now that would be robbery..
Yeah, but by the time you deal with import duty, VAT and stuff (importers/distributors still have do pay this kind of thing), I doubt it will work out much cheaper than £900.

It's begging for a desktop version, though!
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Only 25 keys! You really can't play leads and octave basses with 25 keys. 37 keys are the bare minimum.
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How many are they going to sell when Korg re-release the MS20 at 600 euro's as has been rumoured?!!!

I still want this, I really want a Moog, small keyboard is annoying, but its all costs/placement. If it was 37 keys, the phatty becomes obsolete.

Its still cheaper than a second hand Source

Bottom Line - Will it sound like £1000 worth of creamy Moog goodness?, if it does then thats all that matters.........just wish it was only £800, but if I wait and get 2nd hand........
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To all those complaining about the 2 octave keyboard - have you seen how many 2 octave MIDI controllers are on the market and how many people buy them to use as their main way of inputting notes (when they tire of the mouse)? As I've said before, there is a far larger market of non-players than players. Three octaves is "too big" for some.
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To all those complaining about the 2 octave keyboard - have you seen how many 2 octave MIDI controllers are on the market and how many people buy them to use as their main way of inputting notes (when they tire of the mouse)? As I've said before, there is a far larger market of non-players than players. Three octaves is "too big" for some.
yes , but on the other hand i'm not sure this 1000$ mono analog is really targeted at "non-players" ...
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yes , but on the other hand i'm not sure this 1000$ mono analog is really targeted at "non-players" ...
I mean all the "producers"!

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And that may well put alot of people off over this side of the ocean.

I was considering selling my SH-09 towards one of these, but if it ends up £999 against $999 they can forget it.

We really do get ripped off over here, particularly in UK.
its true I understand there are shipping costs but we are continually being effed by these imaginary conversion rates.

tired of it.
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its true I understand there are shipping costs but we are continually being effed by these imaginary conversion rates.

tired of it.
Me too...at least, manufacturers can announce both American and European prices...
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$999 converts to £629 +20% v.a.t means it should arrive at £800 IF they are fair.

which is 2 X the cost of the Arturia minibrute btw.
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the 25 keys are useless though imo.. they might as well made this a rack and cut off another 150-200 (but then it would cannibalize the slim) pretty sneaky
it would be a minitaur.
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Moog lists $1099 on the site. I know price will vary, but to order direct from Moog, that is the MSRP.
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