What's the worst sounding filter you've heard?
Old 11th December 2012
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What's the worst sounding filter you've heard?

What's the worst sounding filter you've used? Hardware/software/sampler/etc

I think the worst filter I ever used is the one in the Akai MPC 2500. I used the resonance once, and quickly turned it down again. Damn it that filter hurt my soul!

The only other really bad filter I can remember was the one in the Kawai K4. Actually it wasn't that bad but it really fell apart when maxing out the resonance.

The filters in Kontakt 4 leaves me quite cold as well. Haven't tried the new filters in K5 yet though.

/C
Old 11th December 2012
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Electribe EA-1
Old 11th December 2012
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sh201, fantoms..
triton series .. plastic grainy crap.
kawai k5k

but the worst above all are NI KONTAKT... this has to be said loud n clear. its pile of ****. if there werent for other reasons why i have to use it... i.e. it became the de facto standard in big libs, hlwd mockups..fukitt.
Old 11th December 2012
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all software ones
Old 11th December 2012
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Yeah, MPC2000 filter is pretty bad. No wonder they made the MFC42 and sold it as an "add on". They should have marketed differently because it is actually a nice rack mount filter module.
Old 11th December 2012
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Old 11th December 2012
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Man, I wouldn't have put any of those (above) in my top-10 ****e list. I would have to saw some of the first generation VSTs really were the crap - stuff has come so far since then, even in freeware VSTs that you can't even compare...
Old 11th December 2012
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Pretty much any of the non-resonant non-self oscillating digital filters.

I have a love-hate relationship with the Akai AX-60's filters... harsh and hard to control at times but it does things to sound that no other filter I know does. Many would say it's the worst filter they've ever encountered until they get to know it. Sadly, most don't have the patience to give it a chance.
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I have a love-hate relationship with the Akai AX-60's filters... harsh and hard to control at times but it does things to sound that no other filter I know does. Many would say it's the worst filter they've ever encountered until they get to know it. Sadly, most don't have the patience to give it a chance.
Funny you mention the AX60, as I was about to give my vote to its filter without hesitation. I used it briefly in the early '90, and had a total repulsion for its sound. (not just the filter btw... ). I guess I would be willing to give it another chance, if I had the the occasion to do so.
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AX-60 has a great filter... not for novices..
Old 11th December 2012
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AX-60 has a great filter... not for novices..
I'm not a novice... well, I am at GS, but not with synths. The AX60 story goes like this: It was year '91 or so. My PPG Wave 2.2 died just a few days before burying myself into a studio for about 15 days, to record some theatre show soundtrack. (side note: My other main synth at that time was a Rhodes Chroma, with proprietary computer interface - to an Apple IIe!)
PPG authorized service told me, we have to replace a board, and we have to order it from Germany - no chance to fix the thing in time. So the store gave me a 'complimentary' synth to momentarly replace the PPG. That was the AX60. Aaaarrgghh!! Easily the worst-sounding synth I've ever played. After using it for a couple of days in the studio, i walked into the store, asking for something better. So they gave me an AX80, which I found acceptable for my needs.
That brief experience with the AX60 left me disgusted. I know a few people appreciate it, I just don't.
Old 11th December 2012
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Ensoniq VFX

Non-resonant crap...

The filter just felt like turning the volume up and down, ugh.
Old 11th December 2012
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Oh, sorry didn't mean to offend.

I tried a friend's AX-60 many years ago.. and I was also disgusted as well.
After years of experience I tried again,... beautiful synth.

I suggest you try it again too.. I prefer it to anything DSI has made.
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Oh, sorry didn't mean to offend.

I tried a friend's AX-60 many years ago.. and I was also disgusted as well.
After years of experience I tried again,... beautiful synth.

I suggest you try it again too.. I prefer it to anything DSI has made.
No offense at all! I just wanted to tell that story.
Interesting what you say about DSI... while I'm a big cold to their 'pure analog' stuff, I love the Evolvers (I have made a whole bank of sounds for my MEK). Btw you've definitely piqued my curiosity about the AX60... I will try one again if given the chance.
Old 11th December 2012
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Boss DR-202 yuck!!! i hated that thing so much, i was so happy when i got $120 for it!


Nb
Old 11th December 2012
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MC-303 filter was poor. Not as bad as the EA-1 but still pretty bad.
Old 11th December 2012
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Ummm...yea not....sorry that is just ridiculous unless it is the ONLY set of synth filters you ever heard.
Old 11th December 2012
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Oh, the MPC filters really were disappointing. Regarding analogue filters, didn't like the Poly-800 filter (stock) that much. And the DSI LPF in 2-pole mode is just pants.

- CM
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all software ones
Old 11th December 2012
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I'm not sure if I care for the sound of the filter on the DSI Mopho. Maybe I just don't get it yet, or maybe I keep expecting it to sound like a korg or a moog or a something else.
Old 11th December 2012
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Alesis ION...Well...maybe it was the oscillators....
Old 11th December 2012
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Yeah the filter on the electribes is just silly. I just don't use it.
Old 11th December 2012
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Goto 4:25 of the video below...
YUK!


Even Nick had a laugh in the video.
Old 11th December 2012
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The filter in my coffee machine. It's made out of paper!
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The filter in my coffee machine. It's made out of paper!

Come to think of it my coffee maker sounds pretty gash! Dunno if its the filter though.
Old 11th December 2012
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Yeah the filter on the electribes is just silly. I just don't use it.
i recently bought a Korg ES-1 and Roland MC-307 for my son (just turned nine years old)...

i never had any of the Electribes myself, just played with the first two for a few minutes when they were first released. i'm actually pretty impressed with the ES-1 (well, always was even without having used/owned one), and the filter didn't stick out to me as noticeably bad. i'll have to play with it a bit more to see what i think.

now, the filter on the 307 (and 303/505/etc?), that thing can get ugly. it's like there's a very slim range where it sounds decent, above or below that you've got to just hope for the best. again though, i haven't spent to much time with it at all, this was just a quick impression that i got from it.

for some reason, i can't think of another "bad" sounding filter at the moment. i remember not being happy with the filter on the SP-202 after a while, but i don't even remember what it sounds like now. i guess there's a lot of filters that can sound bad at certain settings. a good number of softsynths would fall into this category (but definitely not all, for f's sake), with Tassman being quite a nasty offender at high resonance.
Old 11th December 2012
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korg r3 filters were pretty sad
Old 11th December 2012
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Many 90s VAs like Nord Lead, JP8000, etc.
Cold and lifeless.
Old 11th December 2012
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Probably the Red Sound Darkstar. In fact, it's also the most godawful synth I've ever had the displeasure to own.
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Quasimidi Raven. So utterly appalling that it makes practically anything else sound good by comparison.

Ensoniq EPS had no resonance but was pretty effective for some applications nonetheless.

Whoever said JP8000 I don't agree. Certainly unusual but that is not a bad thing.
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