Wow

I will NEVER understand this quoting of Reverb prices as gospel.

Reverb is THE WORST reference you could possibly use to gauge what people are actually willing to pay for anything.

The price is jacked up 40-60% on EVERY Reverb listing.

The company takes a HUGE profit on EVERYTHING sold through them. To try and account for that 50% mark up on sales between one person and another is just silly.

STREET PRICE = at least 1/2 of reverb price.

For instance, when I owned a JDXA (Since sold) I paid $800 for it.

Think about it, any retail outlet you know who has one has been trying to sell it for YEARS I know two local music stores who were forced to take a JDXA along with the initial JDXI shipment (Roland has an odd retail policy if you want any of their stuff you have to take ALL of their stuff. Those two JDXA's have been sitting unsold for 8 YEARS NOW!

On Craigslist they NEVER sell,

But people think that can get two grand for them?

Come on, you should understand how Reverb works well enough to realize they do not set the market for any item.

The best way to find out what people are paying for anything is the "Completed sales" tab on eBay......and searching it now......There you go, there's your price.

$750 May 21, 2020
$899 April 24, 2020
$1300 or best offer (So we don't know what it sold for, but its less than $1300)
$1170 (The dummy had it priced at $900 but then kicked in extra to make sure he got it, but he could have had it for $900)

This is REALITY not the fantasy world of reverb. The JDXA is worth LESS than $1000 dollars, despite Roland charging three grand when it was released

Here is the proof. read it and weep. Don't let anyone tell you that synth is worth over $750, it isn't. And I predict it will go even LOWER.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...&LH_Complete=1

Not directly. There are a number of external MIDI routers which could achieve the same result via round-robin assignment. There are some VST-based MIDI processors which do the same thing ... so if you hooked up 2 JD-XAs to a laptop ... etc.

OK ... so the digital part Coarse Tuning steps in semi-tones. So does my Prophet REV2. This is expected behavior, as that's how it's designed to work.

If the Analog part behaves differently ... not sure what the actual issue is. MiniMoogs work that way ... Odysseys, SH2, Jupiter-8 ... a long list.

Midi routers? Thanks I will explore this some more.
I wonder if 2 jdxas could talk to each other directly over midi or usb without a computer?

It would be cumbersome but 8 analog jdxa voices would be the ducks nuts, maybe I could chop the keys off one and modulise it..

They can talk to each other just fine over MIDI, but there is no polychain feature.

You'll need a router or computer to make polychain happen.

You guys got me confused. Totally contradictory answers.

ZT Scheer, do you mean that sine waves on Minimoogs and odyseeys, etc., sound squarish?

No thats just wrong

Auction prices are low..like 1 bid sales...thats because its the middle of a pandemic. BIN prices are much higher...and they were before folks were in lockdown or desperate to sell gear.

So yeah you can hunt for a bargain but outside of a worldwide pandemic this is not an $800 synth..It was $1300 to $1500

It does not appear that you understand what we are discussing.

Well I asked if the extreme suttering behaviour on the digital part was normal.
You replied, that digital part Coarse Tuning steps in semi-tones is expected behaviour. I assumed you meant that stuttering behaviour was normal. Did you meant otherwise?

terrible.dee, said it was not. and gave example of many digital synths that behave smoothly while sweeping the coarse knob.

That's what I meant by contradictory answers.

Thank you anyway for replying.

Those answers would only be contradictory if they were noting the exact same synthesizers.

Let's also be clear about terminology. "Stuttering" is a term only you seem to be using. "Stepping" is not the same thing ... at all.

Well, those answers were referring to the same class of objects: Digital Synths.

If statement 1 affirms that the displayed behaviour is expected in digital synths, and statement 2 affirms that the displayed behaviour is not expected in digital synths, then there is a clear contradiction.

Words refer to objects, in this case a specific event. I attached vivid examples of the event in question, in visual and acoustical mediums (a picture of the waveform, and a audio file), in order to avoid possible misrepresentations.

If you listen and see the examples I provided, then stuttering more closely signifies the event in question, rather than stepping.

A trillion sided Polygon, technically is still a Polygon, but in practical terms it more closely resembles a circle than a Polygon.

Same in our case, the stepping is so brutal (as terrible.dee stated) that suttering more closely resembles the event in question.

Roland JD-XA,... WOWZA.
Roland JD-XA,... WOWZA.

I reattach the previously attached files.

No, I listed one synthesizer ... not the entire class of "digital synthesizers".

I never asserted that such behavior is present in all digital synths, or that all digital synths were identical in this respect.

A first principle of logic is to check your premises before assuming or concluding that a contradiction exists.

Many digital instruments or effects have coarse tuning controls which step in semi-tones. In such cases, they are not intended to be used as performance controls per se ... at least not if you want a smooth glide from one pitch to the next, etc.

This may not be the behavior you personally want or desire, but it does not constitute a design or manufacturing defect.

You seem to have gone full Dunning-Kruger regarding both synthesizer design as well as (pretty elementary) logic. This is the part where you should stop pontificating and opining, and start learning,

This. If anything, it is surprising that the analog coarse tune is smooth despite being semitone-stepped.

As said before this synth does have some other flaws, from the PWM artifacts in the supernatural oscs to the digital noise in the anlog path which comes from the leds but can't be eliminated. If this knob behaviour troubles you when you sweep it, then use the pitch bend or the modwheel or don't do it.

No need to insult buddy; I came here in a friendly manner, and I could continue refuting your arguments (in a civil way, and keeping a friendly tone of course), but that's not the point of this thread, so I won't go deep about it.

There is no insult in calmly observing that you are a bit out of your depth. It doesn't make you a "bad person", and I am absolutely not calling you stupid.

You're just at that point where you understand more than the average person on the street, but not as much as you imagine you do, and not as much as someone who is really into this stuff, and has been for decades.

So, here you are trying to argue as if there is some flaw or manufacturing defect with a product, when it behaves in a manner typical to all sorts of instruments of its type. Frankly, it's not even limited strictly to digital instruments. That's where your partially-informed expectations are bumping up against the limits of your experience. Again ... not a "crime", but that's still the end of the curve you are on at this point.

If you don't see that yet ... OK. It'll result in a lot of frustration for you, and perhaps that's an inevitable part of growth.

any JD-XA owners here also own the JD-800 or 990? if so, do you feel like there are any similarities? does one have an advantage over the other sonically? sorry if this has been discussed in this thread already.

This other thread should be useful:
JD-800 vs JD-Xa: romplering comparison?

is there some sort of global midi setting? it seems that the different parts really bounce around between patches.

Can one still order an overlay for the JD-XA from Roland for free or a fee? Before i get the synth, i would like to know.

I don't think they are doing them any more. However, I noticed on a fb JDXA page the guy from Synth Graphics has done another run of the ultra cool JP inspired overlays.

Pricey, but worth it imo. Transforms my XA.

http://www.synthgraphics.com/jd-xa.html

Some 3rd party ones appear on Ebay now and then, just a FYI.

Wow! The white one is really cool! It's so often that Synthgraphics is out-of-production it's a nice surprise that these are actually available. Makes me want to hunt for a deal on a used JD-Xa!

Hey guys, does anyone knows how to send CV Out from the JDXA to a modular synth?

Nevermind, i got it working. Had to set in System Settings the midi channel whose output would send CV/Gate messages.

The calibration it’s great. Can get very accurate results by tweaking the CV/Gate Out Ref Note, Scale, and Fine Tune Settings.

i thought i already posted this but maybe im losing my mind. anyway my thoughts...

this thing is unbearable to look at without the overlays. im not really sure whats going on in Roland land but im really shocked that the shiny panel design made it into mass production. like a team and everyone had to ok this? i didnt think they could do much worse than the monster green but they managed to exceed expectations.

on the other hand, it sounds great. hands down, top notch in that department. they did an amazing job and again they managed to exceed expectations. best sounding roland synth since the v-synth IMO (very different yes) but also one of ugliest in the companies esteemed history.

Everyone told them at the NAMM where they showed the prototype. Still they held onto this horrible design.

gluttons for punishment

For what it's worth, I got mine about this time last year. Used, around $1300. It was in good shape. The synth is challenging but fantastic. Amazing tones, and so much power. I've not explored it's depths at all but the sounds already on board and on the Roland site have given me tons to work with to do anything I want. I should have got it sooner. Unfortunately, I was new to synths when this was released and placed too much faith in Nick Batt when he bashed this thing in the SonicLab review.

He didn't bash it at all.