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Waldorf Streichfett Keyboard Synthesizers
Old 7th March 2014
  #121
I don't think it's gonna be all that much analog in such a small package... But it has such a small footprint so you can forgive this little unit being digital!
And then there's 2pole which i guess you can use to add that analogue warmth with.
I'm a digital hater honestly. And i would still recommend a Blofield unit to my friend! As Waldorf specialise in digital/hybrid synths with quite a long history of making them!

And they do know how to make it easy programmable - you don't have to spend months getting used to program their particular synth! Their matrix ergonomics are pretty cool.
And with this rocket type format they easily fit several functions just in one knob!!! How cool is that? So you get a hands on control of such a capable unit with knob per several functions and after 3 to 6 hours you already know your little box as you know your 5 fingers!

I'm not mentioning this box is meant for making vintage porn soundtracks and has sexy purple letterings on it
Old 7th March 2014
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So...instead of a fully featured Rocket, we get a...modern String Synthesizer (with a weird name). Why Waldorf? Why?
Perhaps this is the lead up to something bigger.

When Korg released the Monotron, no one thought that it would lead to the MS-20 Mini. Hell, I'm sure lots of people didn't think it would lead to the Monotribe. But Korg started small, built things up over time, and then released the Mini. Perhaps this is what Waldorf is doing.

Or, as others have said, they need to get the money to release something big and amazing, and making smaller, AFFORDABLE synthesizers might be the way to go for them for now.
Old 7th March 2014
  #123
up on the waldorf website



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Streichfett combines the best of the now extinct species of String Synthesizers of the 70s and early 80s. Its dual sound engine features a fully polyphonic strings section and a monophonic solo section, which is essential for recreating how adult movies sounded thirty years ago. The Ensemble Effect handles lubrication of the String Section, while the Effects section adds adjustable Phaser or Reverb. Alternatively, the Effect section can be used to animate the strings registration, allowing spectacular sound morphs.

The Solo Section offset presets named Bass, E-Piano or Clavi, and just like in your typical string machine, the sound has little to do with that name. Instead, these are shimmering and slightly percussive sounds that blend well with the string section.

Although the User Interface is simple and easy to comprehend, it controls a rather complex sound engine which is capable to delivers rich and creamy pads unlike any other instrument.

Twelve patches can be stored and selected in the Memory section, USB and MIDI are of course on board.
Old 7th March 2014
  #124
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I'm on the fence about whether they could cram it all into the space and for that price, it seems barely possible. The possibilities are.
You forgot about ACB!!!
Old 7th March 2014
  #125
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Best product description. =)

Nice, and somewhat strange, in a good way, move by Waldorf I think.

Looking forward to hear how it sounds. The layout is good!




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Specifications

Fully polyphonic Strings Section with Violin, Viola, Cello, Brass, Organ and Choir presets
2'nd Layer with Violin/Viola Voicing
Ensemble Effect for String Section
Typical String Envelope Generator with Crescendo and Release
Monophonic Solo Section, offering Bass, E-Piano, Clavi, Synth and Pluto sounds
Dedicated Tremolo for Solo Section
Switchable Envelope generator with variable Sustain setting and Attack/Decay (Release) function
Effect Section with Animate, Phaser or Reverb
Layer or Split for Solo Section
Dedicated balance knob for quick adjustment of layered/split sounds
Fully programmable with 3 x 4 memory locations
Controls
Volume Pot
Strings Section with organic preset select, Crescendo and Release pots
3-state Octave switch (Base/Both/8va)
3-state 2'nd voice switch
Ensemble Effect pushbutton
Solo Section with organic solo sound select pot
Tremolo pot
3 state split switch (splitpoint low/mid/layer)
2 state sustain switch
Balance pot with center detend
Effect Section with 3 state switch (Chorus/Phase/Animate)
Effect Depth pot
3 state switch for memory bank position (A, B, C)
4 pushbuttons for program number (1 to 4)
Full MIDI/USB Control

Connections

Stereo Audio out (Left/Stereo, Right/Mono)
Headphone out
USB MIDI
MIDI in/out
Old 7th March 2014
  #126
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What other string machines were produced in last 15 years? Probably none?
Old 7th March 2014
  #127
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Love stringers.
The lines between analogue and digital are blurred in stringers.
Typically a high freq oscillator goes into a Top Octave Generator (TOG) digital IC. This spits out the 12 frequencies of the top octave. Then each of these 12 is digitally divided in half and in half and in half for all the octaves.
These wave forms are all square waves. These are all sent through the worlds simplest VCA for each key.. These are also all individually converted into Saw wave forms buy a capacitor.. Then blended together. Throw in a BBD chorus and you have a solina. Throw in another VCA and Arp VCF with env generator and you have an ARP Omni.
Old 7th March 2014
  #128
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"...essential for recreating how adult movies sounded thirty years ago."

So it's a Wah Wah pedal?
Old 7th March 2014
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I'm glad they put it in the monophonic voice to reckon the Crumar string machines I've owned in the past…that section of the instrument was quite fun. This looks interesting but unless this is just like silly cheap ($199 or less) I will pass, I've never valued string machines very highly or found them very useful (except the bass section).
Old 8th March 2014
  #130
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I think people may be getting ahead of themselves. The Streichfett will likely have digital oscillators to provide the necessary polyphony. And I if I had to wager, I would bet that the effects will be digital as well.

It may still sound great. But I don't think this will be an all-analog string machine like classic units from the 70s and 80s. But I hope I am wrong.

EDIT: I just read the specs on Waldorf's site. The fact that the unit includes reverb strongly indicates that the effects are digital. And I'm starting to wonder if the sounds are sample-based.
Yeah - I'm definitely excited about this regardless, but it does look like this is going to be an all-digital machine, at least from the little information that's out there now; the rocket's original description from Waldorf when it was announced pretty clearly stated that it had analog filters, and my guess is that if any part of the synth WAS analog (even the effects section) they would say so in their official specs list. I mean, if it's all digital I probably need this even less (especially since I already have a Blofeld), but darn it, its just so cute and purple (and cheap-ish) and my logic is being short circuited...

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I'm glad they put it in the monophonic voice to reckon the Crumar string machines I've owned in the past…that section of the instrument was quite fun. This looks interesting but unless this is just like silly cheap ($199 or less) I will pass, I've never valued string machines very highly or found them very useful (except the bass section).
According to sonicstate, it's going to be priced at 235 Euro, so I guess it's the same price as the Rocket ($330). Still cheap, though not silly cheap. I feel like a large portion of this synth's value is going to hinge on how the effects sound (hopefully way better than the blofeld's, as much as I love that synth) - if they're good, I'll be a little bummed out that there's no external input, but whatever; I feel silly complaining about anything at this price, especially considering that I would never have imagined as of two days ago that anyone would actually manufacture a new string synth in 2014.
Old 8th March 2014
  #131
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F*CKYEAH.

I'm in! My rig design just changed again....

Will it ever end?
Old 8th March 2014
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According to sonicstate, it's going to be priced at 235 Euro, so I guess it's the same price as the Rocket ($330). Still cheap, though not silly cheap. I feel like a large portion of this synth's value is going to hinge on how the effects sound (hopefully way better than the blofeld's, as much as I love that synth) - if they're good, I'll be a little bummed out that there's no external input, but whatever; I feel silly complaining about anything at this price, especially considering that I would never have imagined as of two days ago that anyone would actually manufacture a new string synth in 2014.

At $330 this would cost exactly 10x what I paid for my Crumar Performer…

Its interesting that someone would make a modern string synth, at a price higher than silly cheap though...eh I get the feeling that they're just trying to release a cheap polyphonic synth while everyone else is still hitched on cheap monos…
Old 8th March 2014
  #133
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I think people may be getting ahead of themselves. The Streichfett will likely have digital oscillators to provide the necessary polyphony. And I if I had to wager, I would bet that the effects will be digital as well.

It may still sound great. But I don't think this will be an all-analog string machine like classic units from the 70s and 80s. But I hope I am wrong.

EDIT: I just read the specs on Waldorf's site. The fact that the unit includes reverb strongly indicates that the effects are digital. And I'm starting to wonder if the sounds are sample-based.
I assume its digital, but if it sounds great...so what?

Plus the footprint and price are very manageable.

Edit: Would certainly run this through outboard pedals. Strymon Big Sky on this would blow minds!
Old 8th March 2014
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EDIT: I just read the specs on Waldorf's site. The fact that the unit includes reverb strongly indicates that the effects are digital. And I'm starting to wonder if the sounds are sample-based.
You never know, it might be the world's tiniest spring reverb...
Old 8th March 2014
  #135
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You never know, it might be the world's tiniest spring reverb...
Hahahaha we can only hope! 'Yes, .1 second of decay time here we come!' I do have to say that digital or not, the size/format of this is a huge draw; I've never had a stringer partly because I have a tiny studio and just can't justify dedicating all that space to a huge, heavy, limited synth. Having a neat little dedicated desktop module to do that task is a lot more enticing, for sure.

Even if it is all digital - if you think of Waldorf's new desktop line as a set, you could always route the Streichfett through the Rocket's filter in, and could thus have a pseudo-version of the digital osc/analog filter paraphonic that some people on this thread were hoping for. Of course, without an attack setting for the envelope that might not work so well... oh well, whatever; can musikmesse just arrive already so I can watch a demo video and start mentally spending money (or justifying why I don't need it) based off of some crappy recorded-off-the-camera's-mic and encoded to youtube audio?
Old 8th March 2014
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+1
I hope it wouldn't cost disproportionally high in USA
Old 8th March 2014
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dammit classic gearslutz

new synthesizer rumored or announced = 138791889374 page thread
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dammit classic gearslutz

new synthesizer rumored or announced = 138791889374 page thread
Soo true. Maybe we can turn it into an analog vs digital debate as well hrmmmm
Old 8th March 2014
  #139
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Guys... Waldorf has finally opened their own forum!

Waldorf Music Forum :: Category Index


No more mailing list... I mean it's still there for archiving... but this is much better.
wow... can't believe it, after all these years..
Old 8th March 2014
  #140
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If it can nail a Solina I'm in. If it can nail a Solina through a Small Stone even better. For the price I might just be in anyway
Old 8th March 2014
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At $330 this would cost exactly 10x what I paid for my Crumar Performer…

Its interesting that someone would make a modern string synth, at a price higher than silly cheap though...eh I get the feeling that they're just trying to release a cheap polyphonic synth while everyone else is still hitched on cheap monos…
Yes, how dare they charge more than $33 for this.

I, too, am outraged!!!

Old 8th March 2014
  #142
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Yes, how dare they charge more than $33 for this.

I, too, am outraged!!!

Hey, I'm pretty sure there isn't a single synth that I wouldn't buy for $33 bucks!
Old 8th March 2014
  #143
all about how it sounds...sounds like an Omni?...want it....sounds like a vst plugin...nope..no thanks.
Old 8th March 2014
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At $330 this would cost exactly 10x what I paid for my Crumar Performer…

Its interesting that someone would make a modern string synth, at a price higher than silly cheap though...eh I get the feeling that they're just trying to release a cheap polyphonic synth while everyone else is still hitched on cheap monos…
I have to agree with you. I paid $200 for my Crumar Performer back in the day and it was glorious. But there are a number of VST's that do a good enough job (in the mix) now. Unless this is super special, I'll also pass. That being said, I hope it's great, digital or not. I'm just skeptical it will be worth it.
Old 8th March 2014
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This looks super cool. Not that it entirely matters but is this analog? Divide down type affair or fully digital?

One of my saddest synth losses was only a couple of months ago when someone was almost giving their rocket away for $240 - what an idiot I am!!
Old 8th March 2014
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This looks super cool. Not that it entirely matters but is this analog? Divide down type affair or fully digital?

One of my saddest synth losses was only a couple of months ago when someone was almost giving their rocket away for $240 - what an idiot I am!!
I'd say zero chance of this being divide down analog.

Futureman84 sums up what's going on if it were vintage dividedown other than there are usually tone shaping filters to further color the sound, it wouldn't be necessarily raw squares or saws. And one can do "staircase waves" with the simple mixing of multiple octaves in proportion rather than waveshaping one square. But the above is sort of trivia, it's not going to do all those tone colors and "register" settings with analog circuitry and one could argue, back in the day the richness is not so much the the divide down source which was usually bland. Looks like Waldorf are taking no chances, they seem to have all sorts of sources, a mono line on top, though with few parameters and an effect.

umm - re the post from dogma above, at $295 street retail that presumably used Rocket was 80% of new. Neither ripoff nor something to regret missing.
Old 8th March 2014
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Are they going to make a teaser featuring how nice it goes on a vintage adult movie ?
Old 8th March 2014
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Are they going to make a teaser featuring how nice it goes on a vintage adult movie ?
We can only hope.

Even if it is digital it might be good if it is popular, so those MFB guys might actually get serious.
Old 8th March 2014
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I can imagine this with the Roli seaboard...
Old 8th March 2014
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I can imagine this with the Roli seaboard...
Now THAT'S a demo I'd like to see!
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