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Waldorf Streichfett Keyboard Synthesizers
Old 5th January 2015
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Holger Steinbrink, the handbook author, didn't say a word about this topic. I am quite sure they are unbalanced.
You are right, I asked directly to Waldorf and they answered:

"Outputs are unbalanced only.

Thank you very much for contacting Waldorf Support, and have a great day :-)

Kind Regards,

Daniel Krawietz - Waldorf Support".
Old 5th January 2015
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[QUOTE=milkbath;10570069]Nick posted up his look at Streichfett.


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Great Demo!
Old 5th January 2015
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Love this guys reviews.
Old 5th January 2015
  #604
What would the VST alternative to a Streichfett be? Is there anything out there that sounds as good in VST format? I'm a little reluctant to get anymore Waldorf products after my experience with the Blofeld. Just too buggy and unreliable. If it worked properly I'd have loved it.
Old 5th January 2015
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What would the VST alternative to a Streichfett be?.
I hope that Waldorf is going to release a VST version of Streichfett, as they did with Blofeld and Largo.
Old 5th January 2015
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What's the VST version of the Blofeld?
Old 5th January 2015
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Largo is the VST of the Bofeld (mostly)
Old 6th January 2015
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They're still different enough... Largo doesn't sound exactly the same as Blofeld, and it doesn't have all the features Blofeld has.
Old 6th January 2015
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Yes, if there was actually a fully featured VST version of the Blofeld, I'd be all over it. Must take a look at Largo.
Old 6th January 2015
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Love my Streichfett but why, considering that its various controls generate and respond to MIDI CCs, does it not respond to MIDI volume CC?
Old 7th January 2015
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A question to those who have enjoyed both the Blofeld and the Streichfett -- can the Blo approach the Streichfett's sound palette, e.g. with some help from the labor Don Solaris put into his analog voltage patch collection and some external FX?

I own neither but would like to own one (at least for now) of the two Streichfett has impressively immediate loveliness but the Blofeld has so much versatility.
Old 7th January 2015
  #612
Hopefully someone that owns both can come and inform you better but having owned and used the Blofeld and listened to a lot of the Streichfett demos I'd say no. I don't recall getting anything out of the Blofeld that reminded me of the synths the Streichfett reminds me of.
Old 7th January 2015
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A question to those who have enjoyed both the Blofeld and the Streichfett -- can the Blo approach the Streichfett's sound palette, e.g. with some help from the labor Don Solaris put into his analog voltage patch collection and some external FX?

I own neither but would like to own one (at least for now) of the two Streichfett has impressively immediate loveliness but the Blofeld has so much versatility.
I own both, and though you might be able to get some of the sounds that Streichfett makes out of the Blofeld, the working and 'magic' of the Streichfett is entirely different to the Blofeld.

The Streichfetts 'combines two sound sources' one that has continuous (even animated) morphing of Violin, Viola, Cello, Brass, Organ, Choir and the other of a solo instrument combined with the signature Ensemble Effect. So while you might be able to make a sound that resembles a specific fixed setting on the Streichfett, having that morphing chemistry and specific control over the sound would much harder.
Old 7th January 2015
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I own both, and though you might be able to get some of the sounds that Streichfett makes out of the Blofeld, the working and 'magic' of the Streichfett is entirely different to the Blofeld.

The Streichfetts 'combines two sound sources' one that has continuous (even animated) morphing of Violin, Viola, Cello, Brass, Organ, Choir and the other of a solo instrument combined with the signature Ensemble Effect. So while you might be able to make a sound that resembles a specific fixed setting on the Streichfett, having that morphing chemistry and specific control over the sound would much harder.
Thanks, I suspected that the Blofeld would have trouble emulating that type of movement.

Nice work on your Streichfett-smeared Clockwork Orange theme, btw !
Old 9th January 2015
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I got a Streichfett for Christmas. Here's me goofing around with it last night.

Old 9th January 2015
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I got a Streichfett for Christmas. Here's me goofing around with it last night.

Nice job! good to see a little showcase of the Casio to!
Old 26th January 2015
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The ability to "animate" this knob is a strong feature, but also one of the points where the Streichfett has some limitations. You can NOT edit depth and speed of the effects independently, not even via MIDI controllers.
I just wanted to point out that this statement is not entirely correct - while you can not simultaneously edit Animate/Phaser/Reverb depths on the streichfett hardware (as these three parameters share the same knob, designated by a 3 position switch) - you can indeed edit these parameters "independently" via MIDI controllers as Animate/Phaser and Reverb depths all in fact are assigned different CCs.

I have not spent much time advertising my editor for the Streichfett but it has sold incredibly well since I released it last fall immediately after the Streichfett was released. The editor is called "monstrumFett".

This editor gives you a number of beneficial features including breaking out these three parameters to their own specific knobs in software as well as the ability to save/load your patches to disk, randomize parameters and assign parameters to an X-Y controller.

monstrumFett works as a standalone editor or as a VST and is fully compatible with OS X, Windows AND Linux.

Here's a screenshot of the editor, available for $29.99 from www.monstrummedia.com:

Old 26th January 2015
  #618
My quoted statement might have been a bit fuzzy - what I meant was, that you can't edit the effect's parameters (e.g. animate speed and depth) only the depth knob which rides through different effect settings. "msepsis" is correct - there are dedicated MIDI-controller numbers for Animate, Phaser and Reverb. But that's it.

Nice gfx, the monstrumFETT, although I find 30$ a bit on the high side for mapping some CC#s...
Old 26th January 2015
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I wish Waldorf would add some more CCs to control phaser speed, feedback, etc., for example. This is really missing.
Old 26th January 2015
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I use this (it's free and it works well), thx HrastProgrammer

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Hello,

I developed a simple Windows editor for Streichfett. This is a 32-bit application but should work on x64 as well. Strictly speaking, Streichfett doesn't really need an editor because the user interface is straightforward and everything is accessible through the front panel. But I prefer to have an additional tool for precise editing and patch/bank management. This was also a nice test - to see how the user interface I developed for my Tranzistow synthesizer works for other applications.



Download here:

http://www.hrastprogrammer.com/hrast...treichfett.zip

The usual disclaimer ... If you don't like it then don't use it, simple as that. Also, those who fancy photorealistic user interfaces will have to look elsewhere, I am afraid, or at the Streichfett itself

Short instructions:

All Streichfett parameters are here + the ability to name patches (of course, names are not stored on Streichfett, only inside a bank file on the computer).

Those A1..C4 buttons on the top select the appropriate patch (both on the editor and Streichfett).

MIDI Channel, Device ID and SysEx Delay are, more or less, straightforward and don't need additional explanation. I found a 100ms SysEx Delay (default) to be satisfactory in all cases.

MIDI Input ... MIDI device to receive data from Streichfett.

MIDI Output ... MIDI device to send data to Streichfett.

MIDI Thru ... Incoming data from this MIDI device will be sent through "MIDI Output" device. I needed this additional port to connect a keyboard controller etc. because Streichfett driver is not multiclient (two applications cannot open the same port). Of course, you can connect the keyboard to Streichfett MIDI IN directly.

Load Bank ... Load a bank file stored on the computer.

Save Bank ... Save a bank file on the computer.

Banks are stored in Windows INI format - just a simple text.

Receive Bank ... Receive a bank from Streichfett (bank = all 12 patches).

Receive Patch ... Receive a currently selected patch from Streichfett (edit buffer).

Send Bank ... Send a bank to Streichfett.

Send Patch ... Send a currently selected patch to Streichfett and save it.

Import Patch/Bank ... Import a bank file from system exclusive file.

Export Bank ... Export a bank file to system exclusive file.

Export Patch ... Export a currently selected patch to system exclusive file.

While editing, all parameters changed inside editor are sent to Streichfett but nothing is saved on the synthesizer until you execute "Send Patch" or save the patch on Streichfett directly. Furthermore, all parameters changed on Streichfett are automatically reflected inside the editor.

That's it ...
Old 26th January 2015
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I use this (it's free and it works well), thx HrastProgrammer
You are welcome
Old 29th January 2015
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Hey Don Solaris, i dont know if you knew but Attack Mag has your video on their best of digital synths article: Ten Of The Best: New Digital Synths - Attack Magazine
Old 31st January 2015
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Anybody is still having the clipping issue with the Streichfett?
This morning when I was playing it togheter with my Nord C2D I started to hear some low clipping in my Genelec M030 monitors.
I double-checked and the noise was coming from the Streichfett.
It doesn't make those little pops with every patch, just with some and it seems randomly (I played the same 3-4 bars again and again and it was clipping always on different notes).
It's very low, but now that I discovered it I can hear it even if the main volume of the Nord C2D Pipe Organ is higher then the Streichfett's one.
Old 6th April 2015
  #624
Ordered one of these after hearing some demo's ... groovy stuff !

Put my Tetra up for sale...
Old 8th April 2015
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I've been playing with it now for a couple of houres and I kinda like it.

It's plastic.
It's digital.

But it can really produce some interesting and musical sounds.
The sound quality is not really great, but it's ok, nothing that a touch of EQ won't fix, no hiss or humm and though unballanced provides a nice level output.
The user interface is fun and fast and lets you come up with a nice sound really quick.
I'm running it over MIDI not the USB, have not heard any glitches or notes misfiring sofar.

Cool toy !
Old 8th April 2015
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Cool toy !
Indeed.

Got my Streichfett 6 weeks ago. Still having loads of fun with it. It can whip out some amazing, CS80-esque synth string sounds.

Waldorf has released some pretty nifty toys as of late, that's for sure.
Old 8th April 2015
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Waldorf has released some pretty nifty toys as of late, that's for sure.
I have the three - Rocket, Pulse 2 & Streichfett - and I'd be hard pressed to tell you which is best: they each have their own character and are all capable of great sounds.



All sounds from the Pulse 2, Streichfett & Rocket.
Sequencer: Korg EMX
Old 8th April 2015
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I've been playing with it now for a couple of houres and I kinda like it.

It's plastic.
It's digital.

But it can really produce some interesting and musical sounds.
The sound quality is not really great, but it's ok, nothing that a touch of EQ won't fix, no hiss or humm and though unballanced provides a nice level output.
The user interface is fun and fast and lets you come up with a nice sound really quick.
I'm running it over MIDI not the USB, have not heard any glitches or notes misfiring sofar.

Cool toy !
Lately I've been playing with the SOLO part - which is (for those who don't own one) polyphonic also (as is the STRING part). You can run this without the strings. If you play with the Decay knob, you can get some really short envelopes and some interesting effects adjusting this with the reverb via some ARP or sequence. Then you adjust the tone knob (very slightly) and it acts almost like a filter. Interestingly the Tremelo is kind of a funky vibrato ping pong delay effect.
Old 8th April 2015
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Played some more last night...

When you hear it by itself it's not that special.

But when you mix it in the background on one of your tracks, and start twisting those knobs it is really awesome !
A friend came over and asked "can you do this airy phasey hammond like sounds ?" ,,,well it took me about 20 seconds until he sayd "yes ! ... that's it !"
Instant string porn in a box.

"Will it blend ?" ... YES ! this thing blends very very well.

I'll say it's a keeper ! .... Now I might get me the Rocket also.
Old 8th April 2015
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"Will it blend ?" ... YES ! this thing blends very very well.

I'll say it's a keeper ! .... Now I might get me the Rocket also.
And it blends so well with simple analog pads - amazing!
A keeper for me as well.

You will definitely have fun with the Rocket, as long as you tell yourself that you don't need full ADSR (for bass/lead sounds "sustain on or off" is enough!).
Try fastening the "launch" button with tape or similar (I use a weight with little rubber feet) plus generous amounts of delay and reverb for some great drones!

I think I'll get me a 2-Pole as well - you can't have too many external filters!
Waldorf really should add more instruments with that form factor - what about a step sequencer or FX?

Cheers,
Bert
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