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Waldorf Streichfett Keyboard Synthesizers
Old 14th August 2014
  #421
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Thank you, Blame.
You're welcome! And yes, thanks to Blame also for posting it

I'd intended maybe doing a quick sweep through the sounds sans effects, but got caught up in playing the thing some more and endlessly tweaking

I've done a bit of a comparison against my Solina: the brass sounds nothing like the Solina and the strings sound vaguely similar, but not what you'd call close.

I've just now done a very quick A/B with my Logan and it does sound a lot closer to that. I think though that the strings don't have enough high end compared to those two. But then there are so many other string machines out there and it's probably better to have a broader appeal by having its own sound rather than narrowing it down to very closely emulate one or two classic units.

Personally, I think it's a bit strange to call it a string synthesizer when less than half the Registration knob is string sounds. For me, they could have cut down on the choir and choir/organ/brass/'cello combinations and had more variations on the string sounds, especially within the violins. It's more of a general divide-down tribute than a pure string machine homage.

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Not just suitable for seventies porn music, but also seventies Italian horror :P Goblin do you hear me, time for a new album!
Old 15th August 2014
  #422
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OMG that last patch...

Yup, that one is great.
Old 15th August 2014
  #423
Hey, I've got mine yesterday. Yay! (sorry, no demo videos from me - "Ain't nobody got time for dat?!")
I've been fiddling around with it for some hours now - and I'm starting to love it. At the beginning I noticed a bit of the typical waldorf sound (thin, partly harsh treble) but today I seem to get used to it. The Streichfett could use some analog dirt/cream though.

All in all: It has its limitations - but it's also an inspiring machine with lots of fun to be had and definitely worth the money.

I like the basic string/divide down sound very much. I think they nailed the "raspy" bit very well. You have to fiddle with the "registration" knob very carefully as it does really hefty changes to the sound. The ability to "animate" this knob is a strong feature, but also one of the points where the Streichfett (I really would have liked "Pussy Galore" or "Mr. Stringer" better...) has some limitations. You can NOT edit depth and speed of the effects independently, not even via MIDI controllers. So if you have the sweet spot for your animation you'll have to live with the speed/depth combinations the one "Depth" knob gives you.
The same applies for the phaser. But at the end of the Depth knob's way there is a stretch where the wobbly fast phasing turns into manual mode obviously. So you can sweep the phaser manually by turning the knob from 2:30 to 5 o'clock. Phaser can sound nice when it's slow - but I don't like the sound when higher resonance/FB is applied. (But I'm spoiled: I have built a Schulte Compact clone from Jürgen Haible's schematics...)
I rather like the reverb. It's lush and big, especially at the long/deep settings.
The ensemble and chorus effect is good but also very strong (depth not editable, on/off only.)
The solo section (8 Voice as opposed to the fully polyphonic string section) is very nice too and surprisingly flexible in sound. The "Tone" knob does drastic changes here too.

If you can get your mind away from "Oh, it doesn't quite sound like my Solina/Logan/ELKA/Roland/-insert stringer here-!" you quickly get some pleasing results. I have saved four new presets in the last half an hour. :-)

Can it replace my ELKA Rhapsody? Well, yes and no. There is some difference in sound, but I also noticed, that three of the keys of my ELKA behave strangely again and the ELKA doesn't have a sustain pedal function. So point taken for the waldorf there. You get stringer sounds and FX in a really small and inexpensive box.
The presets use tons of FX, you could turn them off. I'll have to test the Streichfett with external FX yet, but I think the basic sound is there, so it should do well.

It can do lots of different string ensemble sounds, but despite the choir registration it doesn't come near a VP-330.
I' curious how you guys will like it.
Old 15th August 2014
  #424
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I went shopping for a mono analog today, had 16 candidates, and guess what went home with me?

The Streichfett!

I got it, I love it!
Let's see how long the honeymoon will last The sound indeed is a little bit Waldorfy-harsh, and I wish the Ensemble would have a dry/wet control, but anyway, I will make good use of this, and it's a lot for the money
Old 15th August 2014
  #425
Had a little time to play around with it and I just couldn't resist trying a bit of Clockwork Orange Theme:



Solo: Minibrute, Body: Streighfett, Bass: Blofeld
Old 15th August 2014
  #426
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Where are people buying these in the states?

Are they available somewhere? The U.S. distributor doesn't appear to have a storefront to purchase one.

(pout). lol
Old 16th August 2014
  #427
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Had a little time to play around with it and I just couldn't resist trying a bit of Clockwork Orange Theme:



Solo: Minibrute, Body: Streighfett, Bass: Blofeld
Thank you!
Old 16th August 2014
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I have a feeling there is going to be a rash of new tunes by artists
Featuring "string ensemble synth" sounds out there.....
Old 16th August 2014
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I have a feeling there is going to be a rash of new tunes by artists
Featuring "string ensemble synth" sounds out there.....
It's either that, or the hoover...
Old 16th August 2014
  #430
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Played in the shop today. Have to say I really like the range of sounds, even the synth type tones that you can blend with strings. Really easy to experiment and create something new. As others have said, don't buy it to clone other string synths but for its own sound. It can't touch the strings on my Crumar Performer but does its own thing quite well. Now on the negative side I felt the build quality was not on the level and not even comparable with the Blofeld. Knobs very wiggly and switches and buttons felt cheap to me. And lack of power button is always annoying. I hate my Minitaur for that one too. I also was able to consistently get stuck notes when switching octaves on the controller keyboard when notes were playing. Overall though I'd buy one at some point.
Old 16th August 2014
  #431
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Thank you, Blame.
Yes, thanks Blame for linking to that. Here's another from me, I hope this helps answer some more of the curiosity:



ETA: Bizarre, my post seems to have miraculously appeared now, back in time. Oh well, never mind. Not as long as remembered, er, so to speak!

Last edited by Quirq; 16th August 2014 at 06:28 PM.. Reason: Addendum
Old 16th August 2014
  #432
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Streichfett v1.06 Audio Demos

Ok there you go. This is the latest 1.06 firmware, however there will most likely be another one. I've just submitted two bug reports to Stefan regarding audio clipping, hoping these will be solved soon.

Also i think it would be cool that the Split function actually splits the keyboard. At this stage it just limits the Synth voice on which keys will it play, while String section plays on all the keys. Hmmm.... not the type of Split i prefer. I mean, isn't it more logical to have a true split, where you play the string on one section and solo on another? Anyway....

Right, here are the demos for Gearslutz membes:
  • Heaven.mp3 Here is some gentle morphing in action, plus synth section later.
  • 4 Stage.mp3 I've actually used external phaser for this one, simply because for this type of music i prefer this sort of phasing.
  • Three Layers.mp3 Ok in here i've layered three sounds using Reaper. Centered sound uses a combination of internal and external phaser (PH3).
  • Hypnotic.mp3 Interesting binaural texture. Use headphones. Some reverb was added near end.
  • Chord Drone.mp3 Some more animation in action. At the end i pull up the reverb knob to the max.
There will be a youtube demo some three weeks from now. I will focus mostly on layering and practical examples, with detailed gear that was used for each track/sound.
Old 16th August 2014
  #433
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This is the latest 1.06 firmware, however there will most likely be another one.
Does the unit do anything to confirm that the firmware update has been successful?

I played the file at it after I'd had a good play, straight out of the box. It did seem to sound a little different afterwards (I think a little quieter IIRC), but there didn't seem to be anything to indicate that you'd flashed it, so I wasn't sure whether it had worked or just that there was no way of knowing.

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  • Heaven.mp3 Here is some gentle morphing in action, plus synth section later.
  • 4 Stage.mp3 I've actually used external phaser for this one, simply because for this type of music i prefer this sort of phasing.
  • Three Layers.mp3 Ok in here i've layered three sounds using Reaper. Centered sound uses a combination of internal and external phaser (PH3).
  • Hypnotic.mp3 Interesting binaural texture. Use headphones.
  • Chord Drone.mp3 Some more animation in action. At the end i pull up the reverb knob to the max.
There will be a youtube demo some three weeks from now. I will focus mostly on layering and practical examples, with detailed gear that was used for each track/sound.
Just listened to all those, absolutely superb and looking forward to the YT demo
Old 16th August 2014
  #434
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Does the unit do anything to confirm that the firmware update has been successful?

I played the file at it after I'd had a good play, straight out of the box. It did seem to sound a little different afterwards (I think a little quieter IIRC), but there didn't seem to be anything to indicate that you'd flashed it, so I wasn't sure whether it had worked or just that there was no way of knowing.
There was a VEGA$ mode playing (limited show though) during the upload. That was the only indication.

One thing i always do when doing midi dumps is to change sequencer speed from default 120 to 60. Then i start the playback and let the unit slowly take the data. Which in this case resulted in a nice LED train animation (kind of a VEGAS mode). I've then turned off the unit and booted it again.

I am getting clipping though when phaser is in fixed mode. Image with exact settings in attachment.

Offtopic: first post has to be confirmed by moderator, which i just did. So it's up in the GS interwebs now, few posts above. And thanks for the great Youtube demo.
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Old 16th August 2014
  #435
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Could someone do a quick demo with just the choir sounds at all? Shame its not in a similar vein to VP330. Been looking for some sort of hardware equivalent, even roughly, for ages.
Old 16th August 2014
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There was a VEGA$ mode playing (limited show though) during the upload. That was the only indication.

One thing i always do when doing midi dumps is to change sequencer speed from default 120 to 60. Then i start the playback and let the unit slowly take the data. Which in this case resulted in a nice LED train animation (kind of a VEGAS mode). I've then turned off the unit and booted it again.
Thanks. I think it probably hadn't updated the first time.

I've just done it again (slightly differently) and the active memory light flashed, mostly off with a blip on. I also heard a very brief note to signal the end of the file (don't recall hearing that the first time, either, but I was rather excited heh). So apologies to everyone for not demoing the latest firmware, I honestly thought I was

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I am getting clipping though when phaser is in fixed mode. Image with exact settings in attachment.
I think I can hear the clipping you mentioned, it doesn't seem very frequent but there's a noticeable click every once in a while at those settings.

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Offtopic: first post has to be confirmed by moderator, which i just did. So it's up in the GS interwebs now, few posts above. And thanks for the great Youtube demo.
I thought that was the case, I just began to think maybe something had gone wrong when it hadn't appeared after 24 hours. Thanks and thanks
Old 16th August 2014
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4 Stage.mp3 I've actually used external phaser for this one, simply because for this type of music i prefer this sort of phasing.
Wauw... thats soo close to the oxygene/equinoxe sound. What Phaser did you use?

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I am getting clipping though when phaser is in fixed mode. Image with exact settings in attachment.
Yeah getting some clipping as well with the phaser, send a support request to Waldorf.
Old 17th August 2014
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Part 2 covers the basic sound of the Solo section:

Old 17th August 2014
  #439
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Also i think it would be cool that the Split function actually splits the keyboard. At this stage it just limits the Synth voice on which keys will it play, while String section plays on all the keys. Hmmm.... not the type of Split i prefer. I mean, isn't it more logical to have a true split, where you play the string on one section and solo on another? Anyway....
You actually can presuming your master keyboard supports split (eventually reading the manual helps :P):

In case any MIDI channel from 1 to 14 is selected, the
Solo section can be triggered independently of the Strings
section on the next channel, with split settings being ignored.
So in order to e.g. play Strings on MIDI channel 1
and Solo on MIDI channel 2, proceed as follows:
• Press and hold all four Memory buttons and play any
key on your master keyboard on MIDI channel 1 to
set the MIDI channel.
• Set Balance to the middle position so you can hear
both Strings and Solo.
• Press and hold the lowest key on your MIDI master
keyboard and select "Low" with the Split switch. This
sets the split key very low and prevents Solo to be
heard, if you play Strings on MIDI channel 1.
Now you can play Strings on MIDI channel 1 and Solo on
MIDI channel 2.
Old 17th August 2014
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If I don't have one of these soon, I'm going to have a medium sized tantrum.

Even without effects, etc, this thing sounds REALLY excellent. I reckon it'd be great for some very dark sounding atmospherics. Especially going through an Eventide Space or similar.

Thanks for the demo's. :-)
Old 17th August 2014
  #441
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I have been playing with it more than with many other new items before. It's soooo fun, and sounds good, different, useful.
I have completely different kind of song ideas with it than by jamming with other synths.
I love it.
Old 17th August 2014
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I have completely different kind of song ideas with it than by jamming with other synths.
That's partly why earlier keyboard music sounded different Hopefully three decades of propaganda about paraphonic instruments being automatically second-class, inherently 'cheap' and ultimately useless might finally be coming to an end.
Old 17th August 2014
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If I don't have one of these soon, I'm going to have a medium sized tantrum
Havnt you heard? They are all sold out until 2019
Old 17th August 2014
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That's partly why earlier keyboard music sounded different Hopefully three decades of propaganda about paraphonic instruments being automatically second-class, inherently 'cheap' and ultimately useless might finally be coming to an end.
Hopefully not. I want to buy a couple more for cheap.
Old 18th August 2014
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Where can I order one of these in the US? I can't seem to find a site that has them shipping..
Old 18th August 2014
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Where can I order one of these in the US? I can't seem to find a site that has them shipping..
Apparently they can't be found in the U.S. yet, but I called Sweetwater and they say they are getting them at the end of the month. Keeping my fingers crossed!
Old 18th August 2014
  #447
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I wonder how you Americans pronounce it :P
Surely harder to say than "Tanzbär"
Old 18th August 2014
  #448
They have them in stock here in Oslo. GASing heavily!!
Old 18th August 2014
  #449
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I wonder how you Americans pronounce it :P
Surely harder to say than "Tanzbär"
We pronounce it "Waldorf... uh, you know, that string synth thing."
(at least that's how I said it to Sweetwater when i called them. They couldn't pronounce it either!)
Old 18th August 2014
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I wonder how you Americans pronounce it :P
Surely harder to say than "Tanzbär"
I pronounce Streichfett as "strike-fet".
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