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For the last time where can I find deep/punchy kicks? Keyboard Synthesizers
Old 20th August 2013
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For the last time where can I find deep/punchy kicks?

Been looking for a legit sample library with deep, punchy, ready-to-go kicks for a minute, but haven't been able to find much at all. Gave up on trying to layer kicks as I lack the knowledge/skill, monitoring, etc. to do so. Please someone help!!!

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Old 20th August 2013
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Hey the best way to get the sound you want is to import the track url your DAW and then find a section where the sound is playing by its self and chop it if the there is some spill from another sound you can gate it and use a little low pass filter

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Old 20th August 2013
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You can actually sample the kick from the beginning of that youtube clip if you don't want to search further.

Or you can search the forums. Maybe check out Vengeance essential house packs. Seems to me that's a really basic kick. Probably included in Live or Logic or even Garageband.

Giving up is not a good attitude if you feel you lack the skill / whatever to do things the way you want to.
Old 20th August 2013
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How about low-pass filters, EQ...compressors???
Old 20th August 2013
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I found Wave Alchemy Drum Tools 01 to be a great source of techno drums, check the demos.
Old 20th August 2013
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Giving up? Whats next you want ready to go synth melodies along with ready to go bass lines with ready cymbles and everything else.

You can get the deepest kick in the world from some sample pack, but it wont fit in your music. Create your own stuff. Layer kicks, compress them, put some filters etc', you lack the knowledge now but if you won't work your way up you'll never have it. No one is born with some crazy engineering skills, it takes time and a **** load of effort. My first track sounded like a fart, second one as well, 10 tracks in I suddenly see a tremendous change from the first one. Same will happen to you, train your ears do lots of trail and error and that's it. Equipment is only an excuse, you have people on this forum that own a laptop, a soundcard and a pair of headphones and sound amazing.

Once again, you can find a kick that sounds great on it's own, or in some track, you'll put it in your track and it will sound bad, you'll blame the kick? Learn.
Old 20th August 2013
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there are so many reasons why that is a bad idea

wave alchemy synthdrums or syncussion has many fat kicks, theres dozens of libraries which have the kind of kicks in those tracks...though you my find the real trick lies in how you mix a track around those kicks, no one wants to hear that though, no one wants to hear that it might take time, lots of time, knowledge ,skill, and a little talent.
Old 20th August 2013
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What DAW you use?
In Logic you can create really deep kicks with ultrabeat. In Live you get good kicks from Operator.
Old 20th August 2013
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Synthesize them from scratch on an analog-style synth.

It's not as hard as you think, and once you get a basic starting template down, you'll be able to fully customize it in realtime, while your song is playing, with far more flexibility than working soley with samples. You can also always layer in some samples in if need be.
Old 20th August 2013
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It's quite possible I've simply never owned a good synth for this, but at least according to my experience, synthesizing quality kicks with a standard subtractive synth is really difficult. The results often either sound like just a sine wave with a pitch envelope (which might be what you're looking for, but in reality often lacks punch and presence), or like a wet fart.
Old 20th August 2013
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Honestly, regardless of the source, the tricks for kicks are as follows:

1. Layer
2. EQ

You probably have a dozen great sources for kicks already, be they samples, analog or plugins.
Old 20th August 2013
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This.
I was long searching for really deep punchy kicks and snares myself until I just gave up. Instead I focused on programming better than ever before and on my production techniques. It paid off big time.
I now am able to create the most deep meaty kick drums I always wanted and then some. With the use of some great saturation and FX plugins its amazing what came out.
All with full control.
I went off further creating great bass and FX patches and more so ever since production wise I also got better in time.
I may be thinking of rolling it all into a Live pack at some point.
Old 20th August 2013
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You know, I haven't been on this forum very long but it is kind of ridiculous how many threads get started for where or how to get "deep, punchy kicks". Like, of all the things in dance music, finding good drums is just about the easiest and most fun thing to do - and certainly shouldn't require help from a message board. You like a certain kick in a tune? Go buy a lossless version of it and chop the damn kick right out of it! No one will ever know or care. Or buy any one of a thousand sample packs with those very descriptors right on the front. I'm sure you could steal them from the internet just as easily if that's how you roll.

I'm far from perfect and ask plenty of dumb questions here too, but c'mon people, have at least a little bit of dignity. Maybe just try to scroll down a few inches of screen and see that there are already several other inane threads about deep+punchy bassdrums. But the truth is you should just borrow, steal and experiment. That's how dance music has been working for decades and it really isn't that difficult if you try.
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For the last time :P

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If you're getting "wet fart" sounds, I'd say something has gone terribly wrong on the quest for a good kick.

I've used the ES2 synth in Logic to create kicks and ended up with great results that got used on many commercial releases. It's not just the synth though, but an effects chain that follows which always contains an EQ, compressor and sometimes a lowpass, resonant filter.

Ofcourse there are many cases where only samples of a real kick will do. Even in these instances, synth-generated sounds almost always get mixed in to provide additional body or lower frequencies.
Old 20th August 2013
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Sometimes I use a sample from a hard landing on a 737..For real (used to work in the airlines)
Old 20th August 2013
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you should stop making music right now, do us all a favor.
Old 20th August 2013
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Can you be more specific as to which ones from Wave Alchemy? I'm tired of shuffling out money on substandard sample packs.
Old 20th August 2013
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And use a kick that's at 64kbps? No thanks.
Old 20th August 2013
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No it is very hard believe me. And I don't like the idea of making drums from a synthesizer.
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For the last time, which packs? Be specific.
Old 20th August 2013
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+1
Old 20th August 2013
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Or buy a 909...
Old 20th August 2013
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I'm pretty sure they offer free samplers/tasters of each of the sample packs so you can try them a lot out for the cost of creating an account. But, far and away the Synth Drums pack has garnered the most attention, at least 'round these parts.

I bought the Claps & Stacks set as well it's pretty nice but obviously not for kicks.
Old 20th August 2013
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bpm is a great, as is battery and kontakt
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XFER Deadmau5

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Old 20th August 2013
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I dunno. Is this a good pack for the style of of music I'm making?
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