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HELP ME! Korg Mono/Poly or Sequential Circuits Pro~One? Keyboard Synthesizers
Old 16th September 2011
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HELP ME! Korg Mono/Poly or Sequential Circuits Pro~One?

So, I'm ready to get my first taste of Analog, and it's been a long time coming. Now, I know that I'll more than likely get suggestions for other machine other than these two, but for the sake of the question, I have to choose between a Korg Mono/Poly or a Sequential Circuits Pro-One. Both are the same price, and I want to make the right call here. Help me out Gearslutz.
Old 16th September 2011
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One of those is a mono synth. So it will only do one note at a time. That's the pro one which is good at leads and basslines.

I think that the mono poly will act as a poly synth so it will do chords as well as leads and basses.

It depends on what you need. Also you should play both the synths because if you can't tech the synth yourself, repairs are costly.
Old 16th September 2011
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I have owned both. Sold the Mono/Poly, kept the Pro-One. Why? Because in the context of my setup, and for the music I wanted to make, I thought (quite subjectively) that the Pro-One was better.

So I think the answer will really depend on what else you have and what sort of music you want to make. That said, I think the Mono/Poly wins for features, and the Pro-One wins for sound. I'll also say that the Mono/Poly strikes me as more of a specialist or "niche," machine, while the Pro-One is better suited to serve as a single mono workhorse -- esp. when it comes to bass tones. In other words, if you can only have one, you should go with the Pro-One. In my purely subjective opinion.
Old 16th September 2011
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The Mono/Poly doesn't sound very good at all. At least not when it comes to musical stuff. Kinda harsh, you know. Lot's of features though, so great for f/x, drones and similar stuff!!
Old 16th September 2011
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I've heard that most people prefer using the Mono/Poly's mono mode, as some have said that it's a great monophonic synth, and just an okay polyphonic. If you've used the Mono/Poly, coukd you clarify what the stigma is surrounding it's poor reputation as a polyphonic synth?

As for what I'm looking for, I'd like a machine that is able to give me both experemental/ambient sounds, while also being able to be a practical sound that isn't neo-psycadellic, when need be. I realize that may be a hefty order, but I'm just looking for which would best satisfy those criteria, not totally satisfy them.
Old 16th September 2011
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DSI Mopho?

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Old 16th September 2011
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If you've used the Mono/Poly, coukd you clarify what the stigma is surrounding it's poor reputation as a polyphonic synth?
Less a stigma than a technical limitation, which is that, in poly mode, all four voices travel through the one filter (in a true polyphonic, there are the same number of VCFs as voices*). So the sound comes out very thin and weedy. Cool for some applications, but definitely not a full-fledged analog polysynth sound.

* I think I have that right...
Old 16th September 2011
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here is a track using the interesting feature of the Mono/Poly which allows stepping through the 4 oscillators. very sick stuff.

http://asciibaron.dyndns.org/da_baro...d/sick_six.mp3

i could never redo the recording as i could never get it to sound like that again.

my vote - Pro One (i'm biased since i just bought a Pro One)
Old 16th September 2011
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Does the pro~one have a built in mini sequencer, like the mono/poly does?
Old 16th September 2011
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here is a track using the interesting feature of the Mono/Poly which allows stepping through the 4 oscillators. very sick stuff.

http://asciibaron.dyndns.org/da_baro...d/sick_six.mp3

i could never redo the recording as i could never get it to sound like that again.

my vote - Pro One (i'm biased since i just bought a Pro One)
Loved what you did with that arpeg. and the FX. For me that's what the MP is all about. You can take that same concept and move it into so many directions and sonic areas, with or without the FX. You can get very fat liquid evolving filter stuff, change the waveforms, change the mode, then back. Sample it. What you did there illustrates what can be done with that kind of a pattern as a foundation. The Pro One is the only Sequential Circuits synth that I like. so yes, it's about what you need in a mono.
Old 16th September 2011
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Does the pro~one have a built in mini sequencer, like the mono/poly does?
Both synths have an arpeggiator, but the Pro-One also has a simple sequencer (which the Mono/Poly does NOT have)...
Old 16th September 2011
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here is a track using the interesting feature of the Mono/Poly which allows stepping through the 4 oscillators. very sick stuff.

http://asciibaron.dyndns.org/da_baro...d/sick_six.mp3

i could never redo the recording as i could never get it to sound like that again.
Hey, sounds really good. Pretty different from anything I've done with a MonoPoly. What else is in the track? Are all the main synth parts MonoPoly?

I just got a ProOne. So far I think I slightly prefer the MonoPoly. I like both though. Not really a wrong choice here.

btw, what are the asking prices here. This could influence the recommendation.
Old 16th September 2011
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Does the pro~one have a built in mini sequencer, like the mono/poly does?
the Pro One has an arp (up, up/dwn, dwn) and 2 sequences that can hold a combined 40 notes. there is an improved CPU for sale that increases that number to 256 notes PER sequence, allows for tied notes, and it will save the sequences on power off.

the Pro One is pretty powerful and the additions of the new CPU, it's just killer.
Old 16th September 2011
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Hey, sounds really good. Pretty different from anything I've done with a MonoPoly. What else is in the track? Are all the main synth parts MonoPoly?
there is a Juno 106 and an R8mk2 - the 106 is doing the chord.
Old 16th September 2011
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man, this is getting even more difficult , but I wouldn't call it a bad thing. Thanks for all of the information, it's made me more comfortable with buying either one. As far as prices go, I've found someone selling a pro one for $1000, as well as someone else selling a Mono/Poly for $800. These prices seem like they have been super inflated in shuch a short time, but I guess that's what happens when hipsters ruin a good thing, or something like that.
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I've found someone selling a pro one for $1000
That's pretty close to the median price for a good condition Pro-One on today's (US) market. Check out this dude's record of eBay sales:

Pro-One Synth

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as well as someone else selling a Mono/Poly for $800.
That, by contrast, is a very good price. Mono/Polys have really surged in value over the last 18 months or so, most now going for over $1000. If it's a question of value and "risk," then, this is the better move, I think.
Old 16th September 2011
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man, this is getting even more difficult , but I wouldn't call it a bad thing. Thanks for all of the information, it's made me more comfortable with buying either one. As far as prices go, I've found someone selling a pro one for $1000, as well as someone else selling a Mono/Poly for $800. These prices seem like they have been super inflated in shuch a short time, but I guess that's what happens when hipsters ruin a good thing, or something like that.
i would not pay $800.00 for a Mono/Poly. you will get much more mileage from the Pro One - it's such a beast and the filter is wild, almost to the point of uncontrollable.

the M/P's filter is dirty and gritty, but it can do some nice swells, but the VCO's are prone to silliness while recording. if you are running an arp sequencing the VCO's, you had better just not stop it, you will never reproduce the sound when you restart the arp.
Old 16th September 2011
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here is a track using the interesting feature of the Mono/Poly which allows stepping through the 4 oscillators. very sick stuff.

http://asciibaron.dyndns.org/da_baro...d/sick_six.mp3
Sounded pretty good to me.

Nice little piece blinky.
Old 16th September 2011
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I have a MonoPoly and I really enjoy it and I am inspired by the sounds I hear. However I am fairly new to synths compared to a lot of people here so take my opinion lightly I guess.

As far as a vintage mono synth goes I have some hesitation. I feel like there are new analog mono synths that sound really good. Don't get me wrong I'd love to have a Pro One. Theres just new ones that look enticing as well.
Old 16th September 2011
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pro one, no question. one of the all time greatest monosynths ever produced.
Old 16th September 2011
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I'm telling you, you should at least give the Pro-One 2 a shot!

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Old 16th September 2011
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pro one would be a better first monosynth. it's much more immediate, but still pretty comprehensively featured and can go pretty crazy with mod routings. (Though it does have a really in your face kinda vibe to it that I didn't really gel with so was always trying to tame - if I'd liked that aspect of it, it'd be my favourite synth ever...)

mono/poly does do some really great things, but it's more work to get it to one of those points I think. My music partner has one, and it's a really good "extra" to have around.
Old 17th September 2011
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Pro One.
Old 17th September 2011
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Nice track Blinky, very ominous.

No one's mentioned the monopoly's chord memory. You can punch a chord in and then it'll transpose the chord up to whatever key you press.

this video explains a lot of things in depth:

The Korg Monopoly (part 1) - YouTube

I've used neither synth so I won't give advice. But personally I'm more interested in the mono/poly. Like you can turn the pulse width so narrow that it disappears. Talk about modulation depth!

PS: I say MOnopoly. The guy in the video says MoNOpoly, like the game. How do you guys say it?
Old 21st December 2012
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I'll just add this to the conversation. Peep the string sounds in the beginning ... Pro One can't do that. But again, they are different synths ;-)
Old 21st December 2012
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I've only had the Mono/Poly, and I'm actually looking to get a pro one at some point. The Mono/Poly is a great performance synth, for me I found that it's feature rich synthesis made for hours and hours of analogue synth fun.

People dismiss the Polyphonic side of it because it's not really polyphonic. It'll play each of the four oscillators in a different pitch, but they all use the same filter, and obviously there is only one oscillator per 'voice'.

But it's a hell of allot of fun, let's not forget it does allot for an analogue of that price, FM and Sync, four oscillators, four wave shapes pulse width mod, very good routing capabilities, and a strange kind of polyphony.

It's so much fun, and I actually love the sound of it, very korg, some don't like that sound, a bit harsh I suppose. But that's the kind of thing I'm after.

You could almost see it as a very good compromise to an all in one modular.
Old 21st December 2012
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Pro one!







Haha joking, I'd of course vote for the M/P it's so flexible and sounds lovely when you know how to treat her. The LFO rate trick with xmod creates the most aggressive basses I've ever heard out of a vintage mono.
Old 21st December 2012
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I'll just add this to the conversation. Peep the string sounds in the beginning ... Pro One can't do that. But again, they are different synths ;-)

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to be honest i didn't really like that pad patch ..
if anything, it shows that the mono-poly is best left in mono mode.

love the synth BTW.

of the two i would have to vote pro1. is a bit of a yin and yan situation.

pro one is more useful.. this is a perfect case of 'get both' though as they are at different ends of the tone spectrum.

OP what did you end up getting?
Old 21st December 2012
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I would pick the Pro~One, basically you get a voice from the Prophet~5 plus a cool sequencer. The modulation section has a lot of cool features which many other mono-synth from the era lacked.
I owned a Mono/Poly and didn’t think it sounded as good, I actually liked the sound of the PolySix more.

Then you have the DSI Mopho Keyboard which is a really nice synth.

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Old 21st December 2012
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I would get the Pro-One. It's an amazing synth. Makes great bass and leads and is quite flexible. Only downside is you can't fine-tune the oscillators for really detuned sounds. If it was good enough for Vince Clarke, it's good enough for me!
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