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Is it ok just to output a synth into as guitar peddle? Effects Pedals, Units & Accessories
Old 8th September 2011
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Is it ok just to output a synth into as guitar peddle?

I ask as these things are designed for guitars and so I wonder do they not output different signal strengths or whatever?

I do like the idea of using a few classic boss peddles like distortion and chorus.
Old 8th September 2011
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no problems

chemical brothers released like 4 albums of just a 106 with a boss distortion pedal over some breakbeats and they did ok!
Old 8th September 2011
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ha ha ha ha ha - Superb answer.
Old 8th September 2011
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Pedal

Watch the input levels and you'll be OK, though your SNR might not be as high as it once was.
Old 8th September 2011
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lol, sorry mate, im slightly dyslexic.

(Why the hell did they make a word like 'dyslexic' to describe a condition evolving around bad spelling?? Talk about mocking the afflicted, TG for spell checkers haha)
Old 8th September 2011
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I've got a Behringer clone of a Boss BBD chorus (which is picky about levels!), an EHX Smallstone Phaser (no problem whatever it's plugged into) and I used to have a Line 6 Echo park (no problem either).

For distortion you might also want to look at a ProCo Rat. What are you planning on feeding into it?
Old 8th September 2011
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Hardware synths and stuff from my DAW so virtual sampler / VSTs.

Just experimenting really.
Old 8th September 2011
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For distortion you might also want to look at a ProCo Rat. What are you planning on feeding into it?
I have the Rat 2 and I love it. Sounds amazing on synths.
Old 8th September 2011
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lol, sorry mate, im slightly dyslexic.

(Why the hell did they make a word like 'dyslexic' to describe a condition evolving around bad spelling?? Talk about mocking the afflicted, TG for spell checkers haha)
It's the standard anglification of the adjectival form of Greek nouns, specifically the noun lexia, 'to read, reading', combined with the prefix dys-, 'poor, abnormal, difficult'. (viz. 'dysfunctional').

Last edited by niklasni1; 8th September 2011 at 04:40 PM.. Reason: edited for grammar
Old 8th September 2011
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Oh why did you have to start this thread. Even though i already knew the answer I have a bunch of Boss pedals I was using for guitar I was thinking of dumping for cash. Now I have to rethink my decision and check them out on my synths!
Old 8th September 2011
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....you'd better not mess with Major Tom.
Old 8th September 2011
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haha, or ill get David Bowie onto you
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....you'd better not mess with Major Tom.
but he's just a junkie
Old 9th September 2011
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No the world will end
Old 9th September 2011
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Well if you all want to get things done you should really listen to your mama
Old 9th September 2011
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If you get a Proco Rat you'll need a pre amp or D.I. to record it's output properly.
They do sound good on synths/drum machines.
Old 9th September 2011
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(Ok, enough Bowie references)

Mitch, would I need the DI you mention for Boss peddles i your view?
Old 11th September 2011
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No rules other than to make music that sounds good to your ears. Innovate and others will follow.
Old 11th September 2011
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You should be good to go. I use a malekko germanium b:assmaster on a voyager, sounds great on bass.
Old 11th September 2011
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People have been running synths through guitar pedals for decades now, you should be good to go.
Old 11th September 2011
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A synth pedal called the AB-synth is the only pedal I've not had work correctly.
Old 11th September 2011
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Never noticed any problems with synths into pedals until recently. I plugged an old elka rhapsody string synth into a vintage maestro ps-1A phase shifter pedal. It sounded like it's inputs were being far over driven even at the lowest output setting on the string synth. Same thing happened with a Wurlitzer 200A. I tried a bass guitar through the ps-1a and it sounded fine again. Plugging a Rhodes 73 into it sounds fine too. I think some older pedals are only built to handle passive low level high impedance signals ie electric guitars, Rhodes, electric bass.
Old 11th September 2011
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just a caveat, most pedals cannot handle signals that are too hot, and depending on pedal, unless it has full bandwidth it might cut off your highs and lows

it is trickier than it seems, really
Old 11th September 2011
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I'm curious about this as well. I've got a nord lead which I plugged into a DDL3 a while back...practically unusable volume levels were output from the pedal regardless of the master volume on the synth. Impedance levels maybe? Anyway, I feeling like experimenting with this again, perhaps with an Eventide stompbox and wonder if anyone else as had similar issues using any of those pedals with nords or doepfers?
Old 11th September 2011
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All I would add is that for recording, it is probably a better idea to record the signal dry from the synth, and then generate a second track with the pedal effect on it. (Just run the original track out on a bus and back in)

Since a lot of guitar pedals really obscure the clarity of pitch, it can be nice to mix a little bit of uneffected tone back in.

That said, if your pedal has a wet dry, happy days are here!
Old 11th September 2011
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If you want to hear the true tone of a high impedance guitar pedal, get a re-amp box like this one.

Remember, with line level vs. guitar level, it's not just levels that vary (affecting the tone), impedance is different as well.




-T
Old 12th September 2011
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So, Eventide stomp boxes...space..pitchfactor...timefactor, any synth users with experience running line level into these things?
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