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Old 9th September 2011
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Old 9th September 2011
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This is an uninformed comment. Instrumental music is still music...
I believe that was exactly the man's point, it's called sarcasm.
Old 10th September 2011
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This is an uninformed comment. Instrumental music is still music. Its just not a song. A "song" means words and lyrics and melody. Look it up in a music theory book, or the dictionary.

Bach didn't write songs. He did, however, write sonatas, canatas, preludes, fugues, dance suites, concertos, etc etc etc. None of these are "songs," all of them are different works of music.
I completely agree, but in layman's terms, I'm sure Bach's Toccatta and Fugue in D minor (probably the most well known piece written by him) would be named "that song by Bach" and not "toccatta and fugue". Same goes for example with Für Elise or Moonlight Sonata (e.g. that nice song by Beethoven, "Für Elise").

I am aware that these are all semantics and while technically correct, in regular conversions with an untrained person in "musicianship", music history, music terminology or any combination thereof, the term that is most likely to be used is "song".

You know, IMHO+YMMV and all that crap.

LE: yes, in my previous comment I was sarcastic, I assumed (obviously wrong) that the whole "amirite" would make the sarcasm unmistakable.
Old 10th September 2011
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Old 10th September 2011
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Very few things are original anymore. Everything is a copy of a copy of a copy. I've found that the easiest path to good music is just going with whatever sounds best as long as you aren't breaking any laws. That includes loops of course.
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I completely agree, but in layman's terms, I'm sure Bach's Toccatta and Fugue in D minor (probably the most well known piece written by him) would be named "that song by Bach" and not "toccatta and fugue". Same goes for example with Für Elise or Moonlight Sonata (e.g. that nice song by Beethoven, "Für Elise").

I am aware that these are all semantics and while technically correct, in regular conversions with an untrained person in "musicianship", music history, music terminology or any combination thereof, the term that is most likely to be used is "song".
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Erm.........no.

If there's no words sung and no singer it's either a 'Track' or a 'Work' or a 'Piece'

I guess that the description can depend on the type of 'company' one is surrounded by and it's intelligence too though . I'm sure that the (c)Rap boys think that all music is a 'Beat' Similarly in one of the pubs near me there are a species of adult human that are quite far down the evolutionary scale and wear football shirts and have tattoos with 'Love' and 'hate' on their knuckles ( and that's just the women ! ) ....they drink seven or eight pints at lunch time and communicate in grunts ......... everything is a grunt to them regardless of what it is

Education my dear sir, Education !

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Education my dear sir, Education !
I agree, but (1) not all people have english as their mother tongue and (2) I would personally like not to ruin a good conversation due to differences in education - you know, avoid being an arrogant jackass (which ironically, I tend to be quite often for the comic effect).
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