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5G Tokyo. Synth Porn Super-Store!! Check it out.. Keyboard Synthesizers
Old 9th June 2015
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I haven't but what do you want to know cake100?
I was just curious. I stumbled upon it actually.
I read one guy in Asia sent his Roland Jupiter there to be repaired and they did a good job.
I assume it is not a store like 5G where you can walk in?
Could it be an option for any slutz over there who could check it out if say they allow enthusiasts to take a look?
Old 10th June 2015
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I says 'by appontment only', not sure what that means other than it's not a walk-in shop. Work-wise, it's Japan so you can probably expect a very legit job. Also the web page was last updated earlier this month so they appear to be in business.
Old 10th June 2015
  #123
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5g by Bruford and Berlin?

Forgive me if someone already asked this.
I wonder if the name of the store has something to do with this;



Old 20th June 2015
  #124
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Thanks Rusty for your directions to both synth shops they were spot on. I visited them today.

Cheers

Jon
Old 27th August 2015
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We know 5G only sell gear that is in very good condition, but what about ビンテージシンセ・キーボード・DJ機材・録音機材の販売&買取はえちごやミュージックにお任せください! ? There does not seem to be any reference as to the condition of the gear.
We see the same gear at different prices on their website. Obviously the lower priced versions won't be the best, but I would like to know what state the gear is in.
Contrast that to the Ishibashi Music website (I used translate to view gear) which rates the listing 'B+' for example and any lists any issues like rust in battery compartment.
Has anyone had any experience with buying from echigoyamusic?
Old 27th August 2015
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Thanks Rusty for your directions to both synth shops they were spot on. I visited them today.
Glad to see / hear they're still of use to someone, what, six years later?

This post if anyone else is looking.
Old 27th August 2015
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Has anyone had any experience with buying from echigoyamusic?
It's been a while since I went there. But it tends to be the condition which dictates the price. I was told all the available machines were functioning and had been serviced when I went to buy an 808 a few years back. The guy in store actually immediately plugged all of them in to show me they worked and then let me pick one. Needless to say every machine he said was ready for sale appeared to work as I tried a few different things for some fun.

The differences in price were down to things like scratches, missing colour tops from the pots of the 808, and faded/yellowed buttons. Also mods etc. They all worked 100%. And the most expensive one (which I bought) was in amazing condition. It had the longer kick (not infinite decay mod, think 808 kick 2 on the tr-8), which was listed on price card with the machine.

I'm pretty sure they normally don't sell non-functioning equipment. As you get a six month repairs guarantee when you buy from them. But could be wrong. although there were items that I was told 'werent ready' for sale yet. Which I assumed to mean we're still being serviced before sale.

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Old 16th April 2016
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hey i have a friend going to japan soon. Are the analog synth shops in Japan like 5G selling vintage analog synths that are in good condition for considerably cheaper then American prices? I'd love to buy some if so. Let me know guys, thanks.
Old 27th April 2016
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bump...anyone??
Old 27th April 2016
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i was there at the end of march. didn't make it to 5g but went to ishibashi (they have a shop in shibuya, 2-3 minutes walking distance from the main intersection, on the street with the big bershka store). they had lots of stuff, including the minilogue and they had some usual suspects vintage rolands and a couple of prophet 5s. they might hve had a couple of stringers as well. i can't remember exact prices but i remember thinking it's no real deal compared to europe. add shipping or taking it on the flight. plus, they are probably made with japan voltage so that's another complication.
Old 27th April 2016
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damn so the japanese analog prices arent much cheaper than ebay prices? i was always under that impression
Old 27th April 2016
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don't take my limited store experience as a rule. there are always good deals to be had everywhere but keep in mind that compared to private sellers, shops have overhead and employees. you do usually get serviced synths though. you never know what he finds in one of these shops. maybe goes looking for a prophet 5 and walks out with a polysix. who knows
Old 27th April 2016
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cool thanks...any others thoughts from anyone?
Old 28th April 2016
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Went there a few weeks ago.
Awesome, but super expensive.
Old 28th April 2016
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I love visiting synth stores in Tokyo. What's a bargain varies a bit depending on currency rates etc as well as how trendy a particular machine is. I find that Japanese synths are significantly cheaper than in Australia. For example a Juno 106 which goes for a minimum of AUD$1000 here would be around $700-800 there - MA be a bit more these days because the yen is back up. Less "classic" machines can sometimes be found for really good prices. American synths (DSI etc) on the other hand are about the same price.

Note that 5G is comparatively quite expensive by Japanese standards.
Old 28th April 2016
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I live in Tokyo, though have never bought at 5G, but been there to drool!! Its not cheap but I'm pretty sure they have the gear in very good condition. Hi quality is the norm in Japan for everything. Thats no exaggeration. Whether its worth it to you by the time you ship it abroad is another story.
Old 28th April 2016
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Don't really understand why you don't just see for yourself.
(As with most shop sites the link at the bottom right after the toys means "Next Page")
Think they do have a bit more stuff in store though...
Old 28th April 2016
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Just got back from a gig in tokyo.. 5g is open pretty much every day.. I think opening times are on website. My other half likes a lot of used/vintage clothes, art, furniture etc so lucky me.. managed to go to loads of used shops and car boot sales/flea markets. Picked up a roland rx5 for 400 yen and quite a few guitar pedals for super cheap. Loads of records!! Was digging through crates hoping to find something special (record crates and wires of electrical junk in hope of a roland xox! Wish i had more time there it was great.
Old 28th April 2016
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Just got back from a gig in tokyo.. 5g is open pretty much every day.. I think opening times are on website. My other half likes a lot of used/vintage clothes, art, furniture etc so lucky me.. managed to go to loads of used shops and car boot sales/flea markets. Picked up a roland rx5 for 400 yen and quite a few guitar pedals for super cheap. Loads of records!! Was digging through crates hoping to find something special (record crates and wires of electrical junk in hope of a roland xox! Wish i had more time there it was great.
i'm going back for a few gigs in august and might have more time available. any tips on flea market areas? i usually have locals with me so finding the spots won't be too difficult.
Old 28th April 2016
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The thing that's annoying about 5G, and I've been there once a year the past 4 years, is that all the cool stuff on display is reserved. There is never anything really great actually for sale if you wanted to buy it right there - except the new gear they sell obviously. Tons of Prophets, Jupiters, Obie's but never actually available. Grrr....
Old 29th April 2016
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Japan is pretty expensive for the most part. You probably can get some great deals on DX-7s though.
Old 29th April 2016
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I got a DX7 for ¥2000 which £12 from a Hard-Off. The guy in the shop said it makes a warbly noise. Quick check on the internet says it's as simple as replacing the battery haven't done it yet but WHAT A FIND!!!!!! It was in the junk section and it actually came with a the official DX7 flight case.

I haven't shopped around Tokyo for some time now. I can't buy anything (promise with the wife) but will meet up. There are 5 stores that I'd love to visit. PM me and we can make sure we are not axe murderers by exchanging Facebook.

Another good idea is to hop onto Craigslist Tokyo. There are good deals to be had. Pre-arrange everything and you'll be good to go. Check out the gear in a McDonalds or a Starbucks as they'll have a plug socket.

Overall, regarding an amazing deal; don't hold your breath. And I mean that in the nicest possible way. I've shopped hi and lo and the Japanese know there stuff. Except at flea markets if your lucky.

I've never been to any here but I'd love to go! I can't seem to find the right links on the web. Can anybody help?

EDIT: My DX7 was from a Hard-Off. You would never find one in a proper synth shop for that money.
Old 29th April 2016
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Japan is pretty expensive for the most part. You probably can get some great deals on DX-7s though.
I've seen them for a minimum of ¥20,000 when they are in in good condition.
Old 3rd May 2016
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It's currently closed for Golden Week holidays. Back open next week...
Old 6th September 2017
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I'm 14 years in Japan and really started to love HardOff. Few points from my experience for future visitors from the world:

- if you want to find something interesting, my recommendation is to visit such shops in small cities near big cities. Full of good stuff for good prices. Sometimes unbelievably good prices!

- it's necessary to visit them regularly and often. Things are rotating quickly there.

- when you see something you want, take it immediately without hesitation. The next day it can be away. But one JD990 waited on me 2 years in one HardOff...

- check Junk department in such shops - things for which they don't give warranty, and sometimes there's a small problem or it doesn't work at all. As I can repair electronics, it's for me a great source of gear. Japanese are funny, somehow they are unable to repair, reasons are various - very often the problem was a dead fuse, dead backup battery, PSU or so! I've got lot of such machines and could them repair easily. Some were more difficult but I risked to buy it as the price was near to nothing, and repair was successful (like not working Yamaha CP35 or Casio CZ1000 for 10 USD). My last purchase from Junk department - fully working Yamaha TG55 like a new one for about 25 USD. Often it's a good luck case, you never know what can be there.

- sometimes it's possible to discuss price, but you have to speak polite Japanese and be nice :-)

- it's good to become friend with some shop assistant - not so big problem when you speak Japanese and visit them often (still not much foreigners in rural areas outside big cities so they can remember us easily). Or even you can ask him to send a mail when there's something interesting. It's good to show some knowledge - I like to astonish them making diagnostics tests or checking OS versions.

- shops usually don't allow checking junk gear for functionality but everything depends on the shop or shop staff - some shops have a table for checking.

- there's a possibility to cancel purchase and return purchased machine (7-10 days deadline) - that's good but it doesn't help much when I buy something in far city... and my next visit there is planned after two months...

- most old gear is in unbelievably good shape, visually, functionally - most of the gear I bought there looks like it just came from the factory. I have no explanation for this. Otherwise previous owners took care very well, it was used only in studio or at home, not at gigs, or it was closed somewhere and not used at all for years. I know that Japanese haven't much patience, so often they buy something, get soon bored from it and sell it after one week or so to some of these "Recycle Factories" :-)

- shop staff does some basic cleaning of machines, but not repairs.

- check also Kimball, 2nd Street or similar second hand shops. Sometimes they have music gear. And because these shops don't understand it at all (they concentrate on other ware), prices can be very low.

- thanks to internet some clever Japanese (not to mention some clever foreigners living here) started to buy cheap in HardOff and similar shops, can speak English a little bit, and established E-shops or use E-bay for selling outside Japan, surely with big profit - prices are rather high.

- prices in every HardOff can differ significantly, also design of shops, order inside, staff behavior, their knowledge etc.. If I understand well, the reason is it is based probably on some franchise model. Some shops with more clever staff have higher prices because they study prices on internet...

- voltage difference can be a problem for some countries - we have 100 V in Japan, 50 or 60 Hz. Some old machines can be modified inside (change some jumper or solder power cable to different primary winding pin on transformer), some have voltage selector, some have external power supply (maybe you'll get discount when they agree to sell without it) - that's easy. For some you have to buy step down transformer in your country.

That's all for now, maybe I can add more if somebody has questions.

Happy hunting! I enjoy a lot going there and often go out with something new old.

Daniel Forro
Old 6th September 2017
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