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Old 14th December 2017
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Yeah really dig the Casio and hell its a bargain, really liked its sound. I think I should get me one of these suckers.
You should look for the Yamaha VSS-30 also, they're definitely not a bargain on ebay and music ads since they're now well known cool little samplers but with a little luck you could find one for cheap in a flea market or non specialised ad sites and the likes. It's 8 bit too but the sound is very punchy and there are many cool features so it's not a toy really. Also I love the design very much.
Old 14th December 2017
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I own an SP and Maschine and both are fun at the right time. I'm a gearslut and I love using all sorts of gear. MPC"s, Old Akai tanks, Elekron Rythm **** even a Pioneer Toraiz


so the Toraiz is defo staying then?
Old 14th December 2017
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Ain't they sexy.

I guess i have them all:
  • SCI Prophet 2002
  • Dynacord ADD One + Drive
  • E-MU Emulator II+ HD
  • E-MU Emax I SE/HD
  • E-MU E5000 + 8 outs + e-Synth
  • Ensoniq ASR-10R
  • AKAI S1100
  • AKAI S3000XL
  • Roland S-550
  • Roland S-770
  • Yamaha TX16W

I could talk hours on each. Cause i'm a fkin freak.

Which is best depends really on what you're into. Desert island sampler - i dunno would say ASR-10R. Although it has some things that i dislike.

OTOH just you can't be serious without an Akai in your studio: YouTube
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Old 14th December 2017
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this week its an s1100 piped into and back out of an s5000 , best of both worlds .

Only thing between them is a roland Vp9000.

All 3 together as one big fat sounding sampling workstation , connectability of s5000 , sound of the s1100 , fx of the s1100 , sheer madness of the vp9000.I need an s950 and i am complete ? well maybe an ensoniq eps16 as well and a casio fz
Old 14th December 2017
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I would die of option anxiety if I had the gear pile some of you guys have
Old 14th December 2017
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I have an S5000 with SCSI2SD on reserve in case I want hardware.

TBH through I mostly am using TX16Wx right now because it sounds good and is SO much faster for me to use.
Old 14th December 2017
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Slightly OT but I just came across this Ultimate Support Nucleus Z rack, and I was thinking of picking one up to make working with my A4k a bit better. Thoughts? Anyone else using a face-up rack or anything more ergonomic than a vertical rack with their rack samplers? Right now my a4k is mounted in my quik lok ql-400, which for me is better than vertical, but still not quite 'there' yet.


And for a little more context because in the pic above its hard to tell exactly what you're looking at:
Old 14th December 2017
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Slightly OT but I just came across this Ultimate Support Nucleus Z rack, and I was thinking of picking one up to make working with my A4k a bit better. Thoughts? Anyone else using a face-up rack or anything more ergonomic than a vertical rack with their rack samplers? Right now my a4k is mounted in my quik lok ql-400, which for me is better than vertical, but still not quite 'there' yet.


And for a little more context because in the pic above its hard to tell exactly what you're looking at:
Thanks for posting - I'm now going to look into this option!
Old 14th December 2017
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Slightly OT but I just came across this Ultimate Support Nucleus Z rack, and I was thinking of picking one up to make working with my A4k a bit better. Thoughts? Anyone else using a face-up rack or anything more ergonomic than a vertical rack with their rack samplers? Right now my a4k is mounted in my quik lok ql-400, which for me is better than vertical, but still not quite 'there' yet.
Just a side note about the ql-400, it's a nice stand, but I REALLY wish it went lower. It's just too high at the lowest setting by at least a foot.

I used to have a 12U adjustable-angle rack that I got for $40 on eBay. It was a little rickety on its own, but once you put gear in it, it was good, and it was not quite face-up but could come reasonably close. Not sure what the brand was, but I wouldn't mind one again.
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Just a side note about the ql-400, it's a nice stand, but I REALLY wish it went lower. It's just too high at the lowest setting by at least a foot.
Agree totally. I'm tempted to take the casters off but even then I'd only be gaining a couple of inches. I used it with my mpc2500 for the longest time and I needed to be in an adjustable height desk chair with it, couch surfing with it was uncomfortable.

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I used to have a 12U adjustable-angle rack that I got for $40 on eBay. It was a little rickety on its own, but once you put gear in it, it was good, and it was not quite face-up but could come reasonably close. Not sure what the brand was, but I wouldn't mind one again.
Guessing you're talking about something like this?



I've considered it in the past but it just doesn't look stable enough.
Old 14th December 2017
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You hit the nail on the head. Of course it’s so subjective but for me Sp1200, mpc 60, mpc 3000, asr 10, those units are magic. The emu emax sounds amazing as well but a bit more cumbersome to use, Akai s900 or 950 are also dope in sound but I find editing a bit more work than the others.
Old 14th December 2017
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My favourite samplers are Emax and Mirage, but everyone has a purpose:

Akai S612: Not as lofi as I expected, it sounds wonderful and it´s really quick to sample into. Nice overdub function. I use it for glitching effects, as you can change loop points in realtime with the sliders. The filter is simple but with character.
Casio FZ1: Great analog filters (ok, digitally controlled analogue filter whatever). Lots of synthesis options. Too lofi for 16bit, transposition artefacts are beautiful.
Casio SK-1 (x2): Amazing little sampler, with additive synthesis. Ultra lofi, lots of character, everything sounds like a mellotron. I have two, each sounds different.
Commodore 64: Mssiah cartridge adds a 4 bit sample player, among several other things. You can load samples via SDS, or use the ones in the cartridge. It´s more like a drum sampler, as they cannot be transposed. Cartridge samples include Roland TR and others. Really cool.
Emu Emax (rack x2, SE & HD): Probably my favourite. Magic everywhere. A combination of relatively high sampling rate, with an alien transposition system, some of the best possible analogue filters, panners and very flexible modulation matrix. Take a high piano note, transpose it two octaves down and you have a new sound that have no resemblance with a piano. It´s almost like resynthesis.
Emu Emulator 1: To be honest, I didn´t have enough time to explore it. The disk drive doesn´t work, so I use it with an HxC virtual floppy, but I cannot use the original disks I have. Also, I have to replace some of the SSM filters, they work fine but they´re slightly de calibrated. I have the replacements, didn´t have time to replace them. Anyway it sounds great, lofi and organic.
Emu Emulator 2+: As a fan of Depeche and New Order, the first keyboard I ever wanted at the age of 12. I had two until recently. I replaced one of the floppy drives with an HxC virtual drive, with all commercial libraries available. Big, heavy, fantastic sounding. I have to make the time to get the special cable and connect it to my Mac SE/30.
Ensoniq ASR10 rack: Amusing sound. I use it as a transwave synth, with transwaves I make on the computer. Also use the granular Waveboy effects. Great internal DP4 type effects. Great loop and start realtime modulation. Very glitchy. So deep and creative.
Ensoniq Mirage (x2, DSK8 & DSK1): My second favourite. One of them with HxC plus all the libraries. Also a magical, inspiring machine. So underrated. The oscillators are crazy, the filters are a dream. Also use the Soundprocess OS.
Ensoniq TS10: Basically an ASR10 without sampling input. Same commentaries as the ASR, but with Hyperwaves, which are fantastic.
Korg DSS1: Omg, what a strong, professional machine. Polished sound, tremendous synthesis resources (hard sync on a sampler?), similar to FZ1, but with a completely different sound. The Korg filters remind me of SSM. Nice stereo chorus, I made some of the best pads ever with this machine.
Kurzweil K2000S: My desert island machine. I know it inside out. Sampling plus synthesis, take a sample and process it with V.A.S.T.. Very cinematic. The OS is a dream, so clear and logical.
Oberheim DPX-1: Don´t use it much, but it sounds spectacular. I have the individual output expansion.
Roland DJ-70: My latest sampler, didn´t have time to explore it much, but so far the filters are great, considering I´m not fan of digital filters. AFAIK, the JD-800 filters. It loads practically every vintage Roland sampler floppy format, S10, S50, S550, S700, S770, S760, W30, etc. It has a killer look. Nice big screen. Some interesting (no realtime) synthesis options.
Sequential Prophet 2000: Monumental sound. Crap user interface. With the free editor, it´s a dream to use.
Terratec EWS64XXL: Weird one, a hardware computer card. It has some surprisingly good digital filters.
Yamaha VSS200: Lovely, super inspiring little sampler. It has some really cool features, in addition to a super warm lofi sound: 1- you can internally resample any of the FM preset sounds, and 2- you can do overdub sampling. So you can combine samples and synthesis as much as you want. You can overdub resampled FM sounds and layer them. Once you have your samples ready, you can process them in various ways.

Edit: I also have a Roland W30, but I bought it to take the power supply and put it into the DJ-70 because it´s a little noisy. I find the W30 nothing special, really. Not bad at all, but not special.

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Old 14th December 2017
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Guessing you're talking about something like this?

I've considered it in the past but it just doesn't look stable enough.
Yep. Not bad, actually, as long as you don't load it up too much. I think it holds max 100 lbs.
Old 14th December 2017
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Yep. Not bad, actually, as long as you don't load it up too much. I think it holds max 100 lbs.
From a sitting position, about how high is the front lip of that rack? Would you say its about ribcage level?
Old 14th December 2017
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Akai S612: ... The filter is simple but with character.
I believe the filter is similar if not the same from from the S612 to the S950. If so, then you might be pleased to know there's a eurorack module based on the S950 filter. With overdrive and resonance added... Its called the ALM MUM M8. I came across it last night and I had to catch the drool before it hit the floor. My planned eurorack keeps getting more and more expensive and I haven't even started on it yet...
Old 15th December 2017
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Guessing you're talking about something like this?



I've considered it in the past but it just doesn't look stable enough.
Very stable. I've build one into a a rollable studio:



(on topic: the rack has one of my favorite samplers.)
Old 15th December 2017
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Desert island sampler - i dunno would say ASR-10R. Although it has some things that i dislike.
As long as it is a desert island that isn't too hot or with good air conditioning.
Old 15th December 2017
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As long as it is a desert island that isn't too hot or with good air conditioning.
if you go this road...I imagine Robinson Crusoe would have been more happy with a Marimba. Vendredi on the Djembe..cool duo.
Still no groupies sadly

Wait.. I got a cool concept for my next track
Old 15th December 2017
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Agree totally. I'm tempted to take the casters off but even then I'd only be gaining a couple of inches. I used it with my mpc2500 for the longest time and I needed to be in an adjustable height desk chair with it, couch surfing with it was uncomfortable.



Guessing you're talking about something like this?



I've considered it in the past but it just doesn't look stable enough.
I've got one of those for my racks that require much programmation, they're all on the top angled part with nothing at the vertical bottom because my feets would cause some damage. Also I removed the wheels and put the more weighty racks at the bottom, it's very stable. I wish it would be higher though but since I can adjust my seat it's ok.
Old 15th December 2017
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I believe the filter is similar if not the same from from the S612 to the S950. If so, then you might be pleased to know there's a eurorack module based on the S950 filter. With overdrive and resonance added... Its called the ALM MUM M8. I came across it last night and I had to catch the drool before it hit the floor. My planned eurorack keeps getting more and more expensive and I haven't even started on it yet...
Coincidentally, I heard about that filter module a couple of days ago. It sounds great, but it´s resonant... The S612 has one filter for all voices, it doesn´t have any env control and it´s not resonant. I wish it could be modded to make it resonant.
By the way, I don´t have any eurorak modular system. Thanx anyway.
Old 15th December 2017
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From a sitting position, about how high is the front lip of that rack? Would you say its about ribcage level?
No, lower. See pic below, where someone's loaded it with gear.

And for the record, that's a little different from what I had, but it looks appealing.
Old 15th December 2017
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Coincidentally, I heard about that filter module a couple of days ago. It sounds great, but it´s resonant... The S612 has one filter for all voices, it doesn´t have any env control and it´s not resonant. I wish it could be modded to make it resonant.
By the way, I don´t have any eurorak modular system. Thanx anyway.
The Euro module is a clone, so if you turn the resonance down you should still wind up with a sound close to what is in the Akai.

The S612 is one of my favorite too. Even though the filter doesn't have resonance control, it is still more unique sounding than a simple low-pass EQ. As you turn the filter down, it kind of sounds like your samples are being smothered with a pillow soaked in chloroform.
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Old 15th December 2017
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Coincidentally, I heard about that filter module a couple of days ago. It sounds great, but it´s resonant... The S612 has one filter for all voices, it doesn´t have any env control and it´s not resonant. I wish it could be modded to make it resonant.
By the way, I don´t have any eurorak modular system. Thanx anyway.
I don't either but Eurorack is the borg haha. I'm planning a filterbank for processing synths and samples. Tiptop z2040 (ssm2040 clone), Rossum Evolution (emu modular clone) and Vermona TAI-4 are prob gonna be my first modules. I'm planning to use silent way to make 'em dance so I won't have to spend a bunch on utility modules. Down the road (i.e. like a week after ) I'm gonna get an ms20 clone and a SEM clone, and now this S950 clone. Then maybe look into other modules like saturation/overdrive, maybe the DSI character module, delays choruses phasers etc. And once they mature a little bit more, I'll start looking at sampler modules. Heaven help me
Old 15th December 2017
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I've got one of those for my racks that require much programmation, they're all on the top angled part with nothing at the vertical bottom because my feets would cause some damage. Also I removed the wheels and put the more weighty racks at the bottom, it's very stable. I wish it would be higher though but since I can adjust my seat it's ok.
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No, lower. See pic below, where someone's loaded it with gear.

And for the record, that's a little different from what I had, but it looks appealing.
Perfect. Thanks all! Gonna pull the trigger. The Nucleus Z will be my plan b.
Old 15th December 2017
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ASR-10 for 340$ locally. No-brainer or stick to TAL Sampler and MDUW+?
Old 15th December 2017
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ASR-10 for 340$ locally. No-brainer or stick to TAL Sampler and MDUW+?
If you're willing to put in the work (go through the learning curve, adjust to the workflow, deal with floppies and/or SCSI, deal with the occasional crash, maybe have to reseat some internal ribbon cables every now and then, etc.) then yes its a no-brainer. I'm probably making it sound worse than it is, but if it wasn't for those issues, ASRs would probably trade in the thousands they're that good...
Old 15th December 2017
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Peavy SP sample player, only because it has this little bitmap 'running man' on the startup screen... hilarious.
Old 15th December 2017
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If you're willing to put in the work (go through the learning curve, adjust to the workflow, deal with floppies and/or SCSI, deal with the occasional crash, maybe have to reseat some internal ribbon cables every now and then, etc.) then yes its a no-brainer. I'm probably making it sound worse than it is, but if it wasn't for those issues, ASRs would probably trade in the thousands they're that good...
thanks for respond, highly appreciated. this definitely sounds like no fun for me.

genuinely interested in transwaves, some interesting sample manipulation, loop modulation etc. bit quick search through sc and yt gave almost nothing. not convinced its worth it (i can be wrong for sure)
Old 15th December 2017
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thanks for respond, highly appreciated. this definitely sounds like no fun for me.

genuinely interested in transwaves, some interesting sample manipulation, loop modulation etc. bit quick search through sc and yt gave almost nothing. not convinced its worth it (i can be wrong for sure)
Oh look again my friend. Search youtube for 'Robin Bausewein' he is using an EPS-16 but that's more or less the same machine with less RAM. I still wanna buy that guy a beer. Most of the ASR/EPS videos are basic sampling and chopping but there are a handful of videos that explore transwave functionality, importing wavetables, etc. That's kinda the beauty of the ASR is that it can be a basic drum sampler or loop chopper but it can also be a PPG... Or a (single engine) DP4... Or a polyphonic Octatrack... Or all of the above at the same time...

Not saying that its worth it or not for you (only you can determine), I just wanted to warn you about its downsides.
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