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Old 2 weeks ago
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(off topik) How do you find accapella "AS" when recorded to remix ?

hello,

i know its not the forum for this exactly, apart it's for electronic purpose...

where do you find samples of a song well known for ex. but not :

- on mp3 samples song lyrics
- accapella mp3 . com stuff...
- nor filtering music to get onbly voice by EQ etyc... (nor plugins...)
- without using those new stuff softwares that separate music/voice...
- asking the singer/esse....

how, Where do you find well known accapella as is recorded ?

possible beatmapping in ?

thx...
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A longshot, but you could try searching for "[songname] stems" and see if anything comes up. Assuming you've already tried phrases like "vocals only" and so on. Replace [songname] with the song's name obv.
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thk you for reply fast, stems is an idea.... but on beatport for ex, i dont believe they got somme Madonna or sames shout, phrases, oh, aaah !

where u go for stems (or vocals) ?
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thk you for reply fast, stems is an idea.... but on beatport for ex, i dont believe they got somme Madonna or sames shout, phrases, oh, aaah !

where u go for stems (or vocals) ?
Most of the classic vocals where ripped from 80's 12" vinyl bonus accapellas, these have mostly all been used to death, occasionally some reissues/new digital releases include them...(plenty of Madonna here btw)

https://www.junodownload.com/search/...5B%5D=acapella
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a friend left me an hard job that consist to samples 100-200 vinyls from 50s-90s.... (i could not lol)

but it's not for hip-hop, it's for electronic purpose.

thx for the link at juno, i did not know they do stems aswell...

i'll check and why not DOUBLE POST if i not got what i need.

edity: atm i got this...

https://www.junodownload.com/search/...%5B%5D=madonna

just as one example...
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Originally Posted by lunecha View Post
a friend left me an hard job that consist to samples 100-200 vinyls from 50s-90s.... (i could not lol)

but it's not for hip-hop, it's for electronic purpose.

thx for the link at juno, i did not know they do stems aswell...

i'll check and why not DOUBLE POST if i not got what i need.

edity: atm i got this...

https://www.junodownload.com/search/...%5B%5D=madonna

just as one example...
Also use the term 'a cappella', this is the correct(original) way to say it.

https://www.junodownload.com/search/...rder=relevancy

Gives different results...
Old 2 weeks ago
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If you can find a high quality vocal mix and a high quality dub/instrumental mix, often you will find that the latter is the same as the vocal mix, except the vocal tracks were muted.

If that's the case, you can drop both in parallel onto two audio tracks in your DAW, then invert the phase on just one of the tracks.
The result is that everything that's the same in both tracks will null to zero, thus leaving you with only the perfectly clean vocal.

I've used this before and it works if you have the right source tracks.
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https://melody.ml/ can split up tracks.

You can also install it yourself with https://github.com/deezer/spleeter/w...on#using-conda .

The results are pretty spectacular.
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The results are pretty spectacular.
Cripes, this is incredible.
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Cripes, this is incredible.
I know, right? Try it on Bohemian Rhapsody.

It's been out for 2 weeks and I'm honestly puzzled why Spleeter wasn't ever discussed here. It's scary and exciting at the same time.
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https://melody.ml/ can split up tracks.

You can also install it yourself with https://github.com/deezer/spleeter/w...on#using-conda .

The results are pretty spectacular.
Holy crack bottles
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https://melody.ml/ can split up tracks.

You can also install it yourself with https://github.com/deezer/spleeter/w...on#using-conda .

The results are pretty spectacular.
that's amazing..never heard about this one.

years ago you had a few choices you either bought a accappela annoynmous album,get a bootleg or you got two mixs of the same song ,one would be the full mix with vocals the other would be the instrumental version.if you mixed it right itd cancel all the music out and leave just the vocals

another option is get reissues of old songs which were recorded in mono..tracks like beatles songs.
you have vocals on one side of your speakers music in the other so you just mute one side and you've got your vocal.
its really good to dicect beatles tracks because you can hear just how bad they sang in the context of the track its great but soloed its terrible.
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Ozonone RX7 has more evolved separation with the Music Rebalance function. (I have feeling it is based around the same idea though just a little refined) I tried both the RX7 and melody.ml and the recovered vocals sound more natural in RX7. Just saying, not trying to sell anything. Not worth buying it for that function of course.

It usually goes better the other way - removing vocals, you can get really instrumental version.

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https://melody.ml/ can split up tracks.

You can also install it yourself with https://github.com/deezer/spleeter/w...on#using-conda .

The results are pretty spectacular.
I tried a FLAC file and it still came out with extreme spectral/whistling mp3 type artifacts (don't know if there's a name for those types or artifacts)
It's very impressive but probably still a ways away from being suitable for remix work, at least if you want clarity with vocals.

Maybe using the source from github you can increase the quality in exchange for longer processing time.
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The issue is more that It has been trained on rock music instead of electronic. However, you can add your own training to it - feed it the finished original and the stems it consists of. Problem is that you have to do this a lot of times.

Yes, there are artifacts; it’s basically a giant additive synthesizer.
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The short answer to the OP's question is:

...you dont. Not unless you luck out and the Artist or Label officially released it themselves, or if they give you access to it for a Remix job or the like.

Various techniques exist for trying to work backward and extract it from a complete track, and they're all imperfect on their best day.

You may as well take a baked cake and try to extract an egg, shell and all, from the baked cake.
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