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Roland MC-707 & MC-101 Grooveboxes
Old 13 hours ago
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Originally Posted by jbuonacc View Post
i really hope the pads on this aren't as bad as i think are. the pad on the TR-8S is the worst i've ever experienced, i'd hate to have 16 of them. judging by the size, i'm guessing that's exactly what they are.
Yeah, just bigger versions of that POS pad on the TR8S. They should have left that off the TR8S. Whoever thought that was a good idea is an idiot. Whoever designed it, tested it, said it was good, and sent it to production with that poor excuse of a pad are a group of idiots. Roland. Here's what you do, and bring Elektron with you so they can learn how to make a proper pad too. Get an SP-16, MPC Live, Machine studio. Sit down with your engineers and learn how to make proper pads. It's 2019
Old 10 hours ago
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Originally Posted by bob_rock View Post
Thanks boss, I made them. First off, to the wiseass 2 posts ago, people were complaining about the midi capability of the 707, so I mentioned the fact that I like the squid, so TAKE A SEAT

So you have one of the MIDI out from the squid going to the 707 Midi in. How are the tracks in the 707 setup as far as midi? Is there a setting for each track where you can set the midi channel I assume?
Yeah...I have the tracks 1-8 on the squid sending notes/sequences, arpeggios and chords to the 8 tracks on the 707 via 5pin midi on the squid. I have tracks 9-16 sequencing my iPad synths and other outboard gear. It’s a really good pairing. Also, I have an Arturia Keystep going into the midi in of the squid...
Old 10 hours ago
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Originally Posted by olafmol View Post
Tnx! I still don’t understand why they move back to sample-based drumkits when they have ACB modelling. Marketing wise it doesn’t make any sense at all: first telling your customers that you now have a much better way of reproducing your classic analogue drumboxes, and then without blinking an eye step back to the old “inferior” way. Huh??
I think the MC 707 covers the gaps of the TR-8s. User sampling, more samples and midi sequencing.

They are companions, not competitors.
Old 9 hours ago
  #1204
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The new update made the 707 wayyy more jammable. It was fine before but now it’s digitakt levels of fun destroying and restoring sounds and sequencing on the fly.

The random and reverse shortcuts, step loops, mute flips, knob resets and scatters make it much more of a live instrument and it was already a really good ones. Super impressed with this thing one week in!!

To have two-four separate drum grooves going, two tone tracks and two loopers is just mind meltingly cool. Loving this thing!!
Old 9 hours ago
  #1205
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Thanks, will do. Loving the update, lots of cool little features added. Only two I'm unclear on are

"Changing all events in a step
By holding down the [FUNC] button and turning a [C1]–[C4] knob, the value of all events in the currently-edited step can be changed together."

and

"Initializing values in the SCATTER PAD/STEP edit screen
By holding down the [CLEAR] button and pressing a [C1]–[C4] knob, you can initialize the values individually."

Can't figure out what the heck these are...
Changing all events on a step is what it ays, let's say you have kick, snare and two cymbals, if you hold func and twist pitch (saying that for example) all 4 will be pitched at the same time.

Initialising scatter just removes all values, scatter can be different per step, so this like a reset (if you like) so that you can create your own scatter settings per step.

Old 9 hours ago
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Originally Posted by bob_rock View Post
Yeah, just bigger versions of that POS pad on the TR8S. They should have left that off the TR8S. Whoever thought that was a good idea is an idiot. Whoever designed it, tested it, said it was good, and sent it to production with that poor excuse of a pad are a group of idiots. Roland. Here's what you do, and bring Elektron with you so they can learn how to make a proper pad too. Get an SP-16, MPC Live, Machine studio. Sit down with your engineers and learn how to make proper pads. It's 2019
Oh wow they are that bad on this? Doesn't it have adjustable curves to make them more playable?

Rytm mk2 pads are sound IMO, mk1 were a bit tough yeah
Old 6 hours ago
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Originally Posted by theorangechair View Post
Looks like some of the demo patterns... not bad actually

I hope its easily possible to remove all the cheese in one go from the thing when it arrives next week.


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Terrified I would say



What would be the point, then, to acquire a hardware all in one device if one can do everything and more with a PC?

Besides I said for live performance, I don’t use computers on stage.
I want to use it live as well, but i will probably prepare most of the loops before i go on stage and then improvise with them.

And for pure improvisation even on stage one would not sample minutes of audio in real time, whilst the audience is getting drinks, but rather short things instead.

Finally, you seem to be able to import audio loops from other projects saved on the SD card, and this way one is able to break the one minute limits. Thats what i understood from other posters here, not my own experience.


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I don’t like this kids toy aesthetic that a lot of gear is going with these days. Multi coloured light up buttons and all that. Looks really naff. I’m sure the kids love it though. Pesky kids.
I am also not as young as i used to be, but i am still gigging. When the gig developes, you start to get half deaf, eyes getting tired from bad light and smoke, everything vibrates underneath you and the spot lights keep blinding you .. i tell you these lights on my JD-XA and TR-8s are a god send... you can always see what you need to see. Although they do look more serious and mature, i sadly cant say the same about my DSI or Waldorf synths.

There really is a difference between instruments and studio furniture.

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Originally Posted by realtrance View Post
Unusual for Roland to add so many new features so quickly; they may have quite a few things in store.
I feel like they had this big 90919 events planned and then some products didnt finish in time.

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Originally Posted by realtrance View Post
You can do the same thing here, but certain things like pitch bend are not received (depending on implementation, Pitch Bend can put out a pretty significant MIDI data stream, slowing everything down, so that might be a reason for limiting it).
I'd be willing to bet my left nut, that this caused as many facepalms at Roland as it does to us.

The functions sheet probably said: needs to record midi notes..

The technician/software designer/programmer probably didnt know about midi continous data and only implemented note data (on, off, etc.).

Then no one else checked on it. So it slipped out.

This is probably the reason why Behringer beta tests his devices with musicians. We know what we need, they do not (anymore). Do not forget that we are experiencing major changes in the electronic instrument development these days. The old development and inventor icons, the ones that stood on tradeshows listening to musicians are now retiring. The new guys are specialists in just one field (marketing, design, engeneering, software, etc.)... they are not able to understand the whole product anymore .. hence so many slips..
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