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How to recreate the detuned string on Camelphat & Elderbrook 'Cola'?
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How to recreate the detuned string on Camelphat & Elderbrook 'Cola'?





I'm wondering how to make the detuned, dissonant string sound?

I've been fooling around with unison detune, as well as detuned intervals on oscillators, but I cant get anything close to this so far.

The song isn't exactly 'my bag' but I'm impressed by the production and the energy dynamics of it.
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To get that exact sound, I merely turn on my CS-80 and select Preset 5



Sounds high-passed, no?
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Just use pitch bend automation

Check tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V_8Ck08qD0
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To get that exact sound, I merely turn on my CS-80 and select Preset 5
I can't tell if you are serious, but if you are, do you know what synthesis is happening?... I don't have a spare £20k to drop to get this sound!
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Just use pitch bend automation

Check tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V_8Ck08qD0
Thanks, but I'm not talking about the brief moments where the pitch bends; I'm asking about the actual timbre of the synth... I clicked through to the video you linked and that song doesn't contain that timbre.
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I can't tell if you are serious, but if you are, do you know what synthesis is happening?... I don't have a spare £20k to drop to get this sound!
Of course I'm not serious

It sounds like a sustained brassy sound to my ears ...
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It sounds like a sustained brassy sound to my ears ...
But what's giving it the dissonance.... It sounds kind of 'distressing'... Somewhat detuned. Definitely more to it than a simple brass patch.

Just occurred to me that it might be a similar type of synthesis to what's happening in a Reese bass(?)
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Just occurred to me that it might be a similar type of synthesis to what's happening in a Reese bass(?)


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Paging @ Mutantt - he's awesome at this stuff!
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I'm wondering how to make the detuned, dissonant string sound?
Like this? Yeah, it's preset 5. Add some noise and reverb (I didn't add noise). Joking, I used preset 5 on the DX7 here
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Like this? Yeah, it's preset 5. Add some noise and reverb (I didn't add noise)
YESSS like that... How did you do it!?
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DX7 - preset 5, factory ROM 1A cartridge. Reverb is from a Valhalla Vintage Verb plugin demo, the first preset that it loads with by default but reduced reverb mix. Pitch bend is manual. I didn't really do anything but followed usedtohaveajuno's advice, except I don't have a CS80, lol.

I don't know what synthesis is going on here, probably FM ;-)
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DX7 - preset 5, factory ROM 1A

I don't know what synthesis is going on here, probably FM ;-)
Oh, fricking sweet.

In this case, I surely have that patch inside Dexed already!

Thanks!
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To get that exact sound, I merely turn on my CS-80 and select Preset 5
Right preset number, wrong synth! Ha!

Was this purely coincidence?
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Right preset number, wrong synth! Ha!

Was this purely coincidence?
Given I've never used a DX-7 in my life and made up my initial answer by thinking of the most ridiculous synth I could, it's pretty insane that it was the right preset number and the right manufacturer
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Given I've never used a DX-7 in my life and made up my initial answer by thinking of the most ridiculous synth I could, it's pretty insane that it was the right preset number and the right manufacturer
Bwahahahaha!
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DX7 - preset 5, factory ROM 1A cartridge. Reverb is from a Valhalla Vintage Verb plugin demo, the first preset that it loads with by default but reduced reverb mix. Pitch bend is manual. I didn't really do anything but followed usedtohaveajuno's advice, except I don't have a CS80, lol.

I don't know what synthesis is going on here, probably FM ;-)
sweeeet.
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Thanks for everyone's input!
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I think we should check this new "rule of fives" on various other synthesizers and post the results
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Hail Eris !!!!!
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The trick is to have a moderately slow LFO modulating the osc pitch as well as detuning oscillators. Maybe a tiny bit of crossmod. Try modulating only one of the two oscs with that slow LFO as well.
Then drown in a damped, dark reverb. Inserting a chorus in front of the reverb in will help too.
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