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Missing my focusrite compounders, alternatives for 2019? Dynamics Processors (HW)
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Missing my focusrite compounders, alternatives for 2019?

Really wish I'd not let go of my compounders. Idiot.

Any real alternatives in 1u?

I don't really do second hand gear before flea Bay gets a mention
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Maybe this is when you get into second hand gear, as I doubt you'd get anything else doing the pretty specific Compounder thing, especially the bass boost button thingy.
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So you’re missing a very specific piece of gear that you yourself admit to have stupidly sold. The obvious answer is to buy it again, as it comes up on eBay regularly. But you “don’t do second hand gear” and you don’t even want to hear that mentioned. In which case, you’ll have to do without your Focusrite Compounders.
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So you’re missing a very specific piece of gear that you yourself admit to have stupidly sold. The obvious answer is to buy it again, as it comes up on eBay regularly. But you “don’t do second hand gear” and you don’t even want to hear that mentioned. In which case, you’ll have to do without your Focusrite Compounders.
If I could tell you to *+** ## #}#} I would

Yes I miss them, they were sold some time ago in a time when things had to go but thanks for your unreal contribution to me finding a modern successor not from nearly 2 decades ago when class A compressors were rare at that cost
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Maybe this is when you get into second hand gear, as I doubt you'd get anything else doing the pretty specific Compounder thing, especially the bass boost button thingy.
I just can't, I'm risk averse in certain parts of my life as I spend a large portion living in risk, I need balance.

Nothing similar in hw?

Before it's mentioned, as good as sw is (brilliant) it's not close really and especially for the smash on drums that the old boys managed
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a bit tough for the money. some nice compressors out there but not for small budgets though. at least noting with proper character. tons of ssl comp clones, some more affordable than others. i don't know what they go for sh but maybe the oto boum or a combination of compressors and drive units? but it starts getting expensive. especially as you don't wanna go used.

to me an ultimate master bus (or pretty much do it all stereo processing chain) are the three 500 series modules from elysia (nvelope, xpressor and karacter). they sound fantastic, will probably last you a life time and i always end up recommending them to people because i never got anything sounding bad running through them. but it goes over 2k this chain and it might not be the best option for you.

plenty more options in the 500 series world with some rather affordable. but again, it starts adding up and not all of them are stereo or can be linked (if that's a concern).
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If I could tell you to *+** ## #}#} I would

Yes I miss them, they were sold some time ago in a time when things had to go but thanks for your unreal contribution to me finding a modern successor not from nearly 2 decades ago when class A compressors were rare at that cost
You can but it’s water off a duck’s back. There seems to be some unwillingly fuzzy logic going on here: “I just can't, I'm risk averse in certain parts of my life as I spend a large portion living in risk, I need balance” makes no sense whatsoever in the English language. Unless English is not your first language, in which case I give you my apologies in advance but you still need to find a way of explaining what exactly is getting in the way of easily solving your issue.

The core of the issue is:
- You miss a piece of equipment that worked for you.
- Any current and broadly similar equipment would cost a lot more and wouldn’t sound the same anyway.
- You won’t buy back the equipment you miss for reasons that are unintelligible.
- As things stand, you’ll have to do without it.
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i can understand jamie's pov. the only used gear i ever bought was from friends, and i knew how they treated the gear. i also have some friends i would never buy gear from. purely out of the way they turn knobs or move faders. so buying stuff off ebay, getting a lemon, the frustration of wonky gear, especially with older units like these.

you do have a point though. any alternatives are costly (see my post above yours) and would sound different and budget options rarely are very satisfying.

third option is jamie finds some nos ones or buys them off a friend and realizes that after all these years he doesn't like the sound anymore
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It is a used compressor, not a leap from an airplane without a parachute.

Summon your courage and take a leap into the great unknown.
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They're about 100 quid second hand. Pretty much no risk! Focusrite and others probably repair them if they ever go pop.
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You didn't mention budget and I'm not familiar with the unit in question, but have you checked out the FMR RNC?
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I just can't, I'm risk averse in certain parts of my life as I spend a large portion living in risk, I need balance.

Nothing similar in hw?

Before it's mentioned, as good as sw is (brilliant) it's not close really and especially for the smash on drums that the old boys managed
Risk averse? What exactly is the risk in buying a second hand Compounder? It's not like it is full of unobtainium and unfixable if it goes down. Probably likely to last longer than some new gear on sale today. And when it goes down, get the tech on it, as with any other gear. Otherwise all hardware is off the table.
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Risk averse? What exactly is the risk in buying a second hand Compounder? It's not like it is full of unobtainium and unfixable if it goes down. Probably likely to last longer than some new gear on sale today. And when it goes down, get the tech on it, as with any other gear. Otherwise all hardware is off the table.
Little known fact about the compounder is when they break they actually explode into a billion pieces, destroying everything within 1000 square miles and grind the owner's penis into a fine paste.

I have 3 of them, but I welcome the certainty of death and castration.
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Risk averse? What exactly is the risk in buying a second hand Compounder? It's not like it is full of unobtainium and unfixable if it goes down. Probably likely to last longer than some new gear on sale today. And when it goes down, get the tech on it, as with any other gear. Otherwise all hardware is off the table.
Esp. when they can go for less then 100 euro.
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Little known fact about the compounder is when they break they actually explode into a billion pieces, destroying everything within 1000 square miles and grind the owner's penis into a fine paste.

I have 3 of them, but I welcome the certainty of death and castration.
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Esp. when they can go for less then 100 euro.
Stop it, now I want one. From memory it had a sort of edge to the sound that suited electronics more than acoustic stuff, but maybe there is a part or two in there that can be swapped for summet tonally a little warmer....

I smell an alluring rabbit hole of risk, adventure and potential castration.
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Any real alternatives in 1u?

I don't really do second hand gear before flea Bay gets a mention
Have you checked out MixbusTV’s YouTube channel? David has reviewed many compressors over the years and many are 1U / stereo.

I don’t know what your budget is but the Drawmer 1978 seems a good fit. Stereo, has shaped EQ and different character modes plus saturation.

Should also last another 30 years with ease.

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Risk of a cheap used piece of gear maybe developing problems down the road vs the known immediate depreciation of anything worth buying that you can get new...which is almost certainly far greater than the cost of a compounder. Buy a used compounder and if it fails 5 years from now, or buy something new, have it depreciate, maybe it will fail within 5 years too.

You’re welcome.
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I only buy used gear, if possible.

I get what I want, often at great prices.

It has been an overwhelmingly positive experience.

Being averse to it seems crazy.
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Not sure why this thread has turned into a used vs new debate, but sometimes you just want that new car smell.
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Not sure why this thread has turned into a used vs new debate, but sometimes you just want that new car smell.
Sure, but if you're missing that old Ford Escort new isn't an option.
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The problem has been compounded
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But if we focus right maybe we can solve the OP's problem.
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Sure, but if you're missing that old Ford Escort new isn't an option.

you have no idea how funny the idea of missing a Ford Escort is to an American who regularly drove three different ones. I know they were a very different car in Europe, but no one would ever miss an American one.


To the point of the thread though if someone was new car shopping and said I'd love to get something along the lines of my old Ford Escort would you tell them to just buy used, or would you talk about new models that were of similar size and vibe? I mean if someone said that to me I'd probably say something along the lines of, I don't think they make cars that are that completely awful anymore, but you might want to look at the Dodge Journey as that seems to be pretty craptacular.
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you have no idea how funny the idea of missing a Ford Escort is to an American who regularly drove three different ones. I know they were a very different car in Europe, but no one would ever miss an American one.


To the point of the thread though if someone was new car shopping and said I'd love to get something along the lines of my old Ford Escort would you tell them to just buy used, or would you talk about new models that were of similar size and vibe? I mean if someone said that to me I'd probably say something along the lines of, I don't think they make cars that are that completely awful anymore, but you might want to look at the Dodge Journey as that seems to be pretty craptacular.


Well, but we're talking art tools, or at least work tools, and this tool has a couple of very specific features and behaviour, so I guess the flippant Escort isn't really the ideal picture, as you won't get the same function from something else that easily.
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Well, but we're talking art tools, or at least work tools, and this tool has a couple of very specific features and behaviour, so I guess the flippant Escort isn't really the ideal picture, as you won't get the same function from something else that easily.
I hear what you're saying . I guess I just don't think there's anything that unique that there's not a currently made compressor that would cover the same ground, but I guess the bass function is somewhat unique.
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Sure, but if you're missing that old Ford Escort new isn't an option.

i loved my mexicio and rs2k, wouldn't buy another though
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risk averse was the wrong phrase, granted it sounds daft and i deserve all the sarcy crap that followed

i asked for anything modern that was a replacement, just in case somebody who actually knew the compounder and something else well enough to advise
Old 6 days ago
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I know the compounder quite well, what is it about it you liked? I don't see the point in not buying used but if you want to waste money, you could buy an FMR RNLA and a SPL Vitalizer new...
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