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Behringer Yamaha CS 80 clone (DS 80) Speculation Thread
Old 30th April 2019
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Behringer Yamaha CS 80 clone (DS 80) Speculation Thread

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Old 30th April 2019
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Look for it in 2026?
Old 30th April 2019
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Didn't they buy one recently? or am I getting confused?
Old 30th April 2019
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And then this showed up... Uli



Old 30th April 2019
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I'd buy a clone of it for $300. For that one sound it makes.
Old 30th April 2019
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To me, a clone of the CS80 is more exciting than the Jupiter 8. Frankly

Would be great if Behringer deliver the CS80

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And yet another attempt of behringer's promotion team to flood the forum .
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And yet another attempt of behringer's promotion team to flood the forum .
Old 30th April 2019
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ever heard of behringer's synthesizer museum ..
Old 30th April 2019
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I'd prefer a CS60.
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If it's not digital, in a tiny box, with tiny knobs and sliders, no keys, and have only 4 voices of polyphony, then no thanks
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Where can I buy those ?
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Where can I buy those ?
https://www.amazon.com/Archie-McPhee.../dp/B07CXZBRW5

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Where can I buy those ?
The ones you can buy have nanobots that can track your every thought and eventually also control your mind.
So you have to DIY them from ordinary cooking foil.
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Originally Posted by Mutantt ➡️
https://live.staticflickr.com/2274/2404325409_5543da1791.jpg
He literally uses GS as his main PR channel, so hardly conspiratorial.
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It better be a clone with full size keys and polyAT at least.
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I'd be already happy if Behringer made a 37 key (full sized keys!) controller keyboard with poly aftertouch for under 300€.
Old 30th April 2019
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If you’re really a “synth guy” I’d think you’d support Yuli making stuff like this... what’s the alternative? Virtual instruments? Ancient boards on the verge of catastrophic failure?

You haters are hilarious AF

Tell you what... why don’t you start your own company and start developing your own line of anything...
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Behringer’s CS-80 looks almost immaculate. Is this the one that had been in Yamaha’s office untouched for many years?
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The Deckard's Dream is a $4000 boutique synth (if you want the whole CS80 package, and that still does not include keys, much less PolyAT and ribbon), and it is not a clone.

If B's idea of cloning was to make something like the DD then it would be awesome and I don't think anyone would take issue. It would not have to be $4K, they could probably make it for $2500 and they might even do so while adding keys and the ribbon (they might be one of only 3 companies that would have the resources to do so).

But who are you kidding... they are not going to "clone" the CS80 at all. The only instruments they clone are those that are simple enough to be made super cheap and with schematics long in the public domain. The CS80 might be old, but it is still incredibly complex and hard to replicate. To do so would require actual R&D and a significant investment... Never going to happen.

Yamaha, on the other hand, could do a "tribute" synth of their own - something like the DD but taken to the level only the originators of the IP could, something that truly brings back the feel and magic of the CS80, and not made so that price is the main factor driving the design. No VAs and no compromises - I think they have what it would take to make a new CS80 and price it within reason. I hope they do.
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If they can do it with the same sound possibilities, ribbon, quality keybed, poly aftertouch, yes why not. In fact if they reach that quality they could also make it it - at the same time - into a fantastic semi weighted (fsx style) or balanced hammer master / controller keyboard (with eg 73 keys).
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Just cover your entire roof with aluminium sheets and you don't have to wear it when you're inside
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Tin foil hats actually amplify the signals. Somebody at MIT did a research paper on them about 15 years ago.
Old 30th April 2019
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Where was your self righteous indignation when the Deckard's Dream was announced?
I could swear I've posted the same post as yours in an another topic. This is hillarious how many praised the Deckard's Dream but hate it if Behringer is going to clone the CS-80, same with Shears Oberheim clone they supported that kid with his crappy desktop synth but hates it when Behringer clones the OBXa. SH101? Same story, there is an another company thats cloning this synth, they've recieved a lot of positive comments but not when its Behringer.


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But who are you kidding... they are not going to "clone" the CS80 at all. The only instruments they clone are those that are simple enough to be made super cheap and with schematics long in the public domain. The CS80 might be old, but it is still incredibly complex and hard to replicate. To do so would require actual R&D and a significant investment... Never going to happen.
How do you know they won't clone it? Complexity, yes but it's still possible. Stop acting like this CS-80 is some kind of futuristic weapon with advanced technology.

Uli himself said that the OBXa is a complex synthesizer, and they're still working on it. Since their other clones sound identical compared to the original synths I'm not even surprised if their CS80 clone will be spot on.

The schematics are available recreating the PCB's won't be an issue, with the proper equipment it's easy to reverse an IC. Behringer has the money and time to do that. Even without schematics if you have the PCB you can recreate it.

They sure know how to promote their products on the internet, IMHO thats a smart way to promote your goods since it's basically free and it saves a lot of money.
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Behringer are doing this in conjunction with Yamaha is my theory.
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Well done. You earned 10 Uli$
Nah

I charge a free CS 80
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Originally Posted by jason moyer ➡️
I'd buy a clone of it for $300. For that one sound it makes.
Good news, then. The Behringer R.E.A.T.* just determined that the CS-80 is "only $280 in parts", so they can pull that pricing off.†

* Reverse Engineering Auditing Team

For purposes of possible future legal proceedings, this comment is hereby proactively labeled as parody
Old 1st May 2019
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I'd would also be surprised if this one actually got made on account of its complexity. I'm sure it's been suggested before, but it seems to me that Behringer might be pulling together instruments for some kind of public-facing showroom/museum.

Personally, the CS-80 is the only classic that has never really called to me. The pads do sound nice and I appreciate it for being a bleeding-edge instrument at the time of production, but it always just seemed so archaic and impractical compared to the polys that would follow just a few years later. Besides, it might be the ugliest vintage synth in the world.
Old 1st May 2019
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If B make a CS80, they'll have to make a PolyPressure keybed.

Then we have a reasonably priced PP keybed.

Now that would be news.

Stephen
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