2025

Or later. 2022 more likely.

Don't mean to revive a dead thread, but do any of you think that we will get the DS-80 soon after the Ub-Xa, as I feel that the development of the Ub may have helped speed up some of the process to create the DS i.e. firmware, new keybeds, etc

They'll probably release the UBXa mid to late 2021, spend about 12 months getting all the bugs found by the user base ironed out - there's bound to be a load as it seems to be a new firmware base (not from Deepmind). They do that while getting the CS-80 hardware ready, then put fixed firmware on CS-80 and get it out the door. My uninformed guess would be about 12-18 months after UBXa - esp. if they use the PAT keyboard on the UB, which would be very cool.

This thread is not dead, it is just sleeping.

I have to say, there are really some good new synthesizers (Cobalt8, Polybrute, Super6, Iridium, (the boring, overpriced) Prophet 5, ...),
but through my experience with the Hydrasynth it became clear to me that with today's possibilities, playability and expressiveness are most important.

And there comes the DS-80 with its 5-octave! PolyAT keyboard.
All of my potential purchases (not the Osmose, naturally) are on hold until I can get and evaluate it.

best regards

Polybrute has taken expressiveness to a whole new level I think.
PolyAT and ribbon control is great, and I'm really looking forward to the DS80, but the patch morping feature (and the Morphee controller) really made me sit up and take notice. Morphing between the two layers on the DS80 anyone??

I will fight you, lol.

I'll put it in brackets.

WTF is a DS-80 supposed to be? The correct name is BS-80, we can't change traditions!

I just supposed they didn't want the slam for naming any product "BS" -- there are always going to be critics, why make it easy for them ...