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Old 7th February 2019
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Sequencing a Reggae Synth Bassline

Hello,
I have been listening to a good deal of 90's Reggae Dancehall recently (for example: El General "Pu Tun Tun", Tony Rebel "Know Jah", Johnny Osobourne, "Buddy Bye").
Many of these tracks have a synth bass that seems to be arpegiating or repeating notes at a certain time division.
Does anyone who has succesfully made these type of dancehall synth basslines have tips for creating them (less about gear, more about technique).
I primarily use an MPC to sequence.
Thanks
Old 7th February 2019
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sleng teng



next one's nice too. love dancehall.
the 'motorvated' bass thing, yeah. you can come up with stuff like that on a
simple sequencer with quantized timing. don't know if there's any rule to it
though. it reminds me of those auto-dance machines. some of those things
are amazing.


Last edited by whatever17; 7th February 2019 at 08:11 PM..
Old 7th February 2019
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The whole story behind the Sleng Teng riddim is interesting and funny. It was actually just a preset on a Casio MT-40 keyboard

See here for the full story:
How Casio accidentally started reggae's digital revolution
Old 7th February 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dahkter View Post
Many of these tracks have a synth bass that seems to be arpegiating or repeating notes at a certain time division.
Does anyone who has succesfully made these type of dancehall synth basslines have tips for creating them (less about gear, more about technique).

Thanks
Did you try arpegiating or repeating notes at a certain time division ?
Old 7th February 2019
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Ingredients:
DMX + CS01 + DX100

Recipe:
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Old 7th February 2019
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Best not to forget the One Drop.
Old 8th February 2019
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Originally Posted by InterPhase View Post
The whole story behind the Sleng Teng riddim is interesting and funny. It was actually just a preset on a Casio MT-40 keyboard

See here for the full story:
How Casio accidentally started reggae's digital revolution
This. Read it and it sheds a lot of light on that Sleng Teng sound.
Old 9th February 2019
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I downloaded a big set of popular riddims in MIDI format a few years back. I can't remember if it was this same one, but just found a nice set here.

baroquedub - midi riddims

I'd google the title of the songs that you like, and see if they are one of the popular riddims. Study the MIDI, and see if it helps.

Even though you said they are synth bass, you could also try to google BASS Guitar tab for the songs. Someone may have transcribed it that way.

:EDIT:

From a quick skim though, I don't recognize El General "Pu Tun Tun" and Tony Rebel "Know Jah" off the top of my head.

Johnny Osobourne "Buddy Bye" is definitely Sleng Teng Riddim, like someone mentioned above. That is on the MIDI list I posted, and here is the BASS Guitar Tab from another song that uses it.

Caress Me Down Bass Tabs - Sublime @ BigBassTabs.com
Old 10th February 2019
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Riddimguide

El General "Pu Tun Tun" - General Riddim.

Tony Rebel "Know Jah" - Swing Easy Riddim.

Johnny Osobourne "Buddy Bye" - Sleng Teng Riddim.
Old 10th February 2019
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Hello thread, I am new to this forum. I joined for the Tanzbar 2 thread but I was browsing and saw this one.

I have an MT-40 if anyone would like samples of it for their music. All of the instruments and drum patterns work. It's pretty fun to play! The minikey action is actually really good.
Old 10th February 2019
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Originally Posted by optunist View Post
Ingredients:
DMX + CS01 + DX100

Recipe:
link1
link2
Wow, these videos are gold, thank you.
From seeing this, sure I can get where i want to go.
Forget arps and note repeat, playing it in live (possibly with some quantize) should do the trick.
Thank you.
Old 11th February 2019
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Ingredients:
DMX + CS01 + DX100

Recipe:
link1
link2
It's the Oberheim DX actually that was used, DX clap is different than DMX and is a staple sound of this era.
Now many different drum machines have been used for this style and the one I'd like to identify is this track's:
Old 11th February 2019
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It's the Oberheim DX actually that was used, DX clap is different than DMX and is a staple sound of this era.
Now many different drum machines have been used for this style and the one I'd like to identify is this track's:
Maybe one of the following
Alesis SR-16
Casio RZ-1
Yamaha RX-11
Roland TR something or Boss DR something?
Old 11th February 2019
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Maybe one of the following
Alesis SR-16
Casio RZ-1
Yamaha RX-11
Roland TR something or Boss DR something?
I don't think so. Sure it's neither RZ1 RX11 TR or DR. SR16 I highly doubt but since you have one maybe you could try to match it.
There's this typical processed Fairlight OrchHit I never heard outside Jamaica's 80's/90's productions and the toms are special too.
There's a chance it's simply a MPC60 filled with sounds previously recorded in Jamaican studios.
Old 11th February 2019
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I don't think so. Sure it's neither RZ1 RX11 TR or DR. SR16 I highly doubt but since you have one maybe you could try to match it.
There's this typical processed Fairlight OrchHit I never heard outside Jamaica's 80's/90's productions and the toms are special too.
There's a chance it's simply a MPC60 filled with sounds previously recorded in Jamaican studios.
The toms sound a little like a cheaper drum machine. I can’t recognize it but maybe it’s from a Drumulator.
Maybe the Kawai R-100?
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Old 11th February 2019
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The toms sound a little like a cheaper drum machine. I can’t recognize it but maybe it’s from a Drumulator.
Maybe the Kawai R-100?
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They sound like analog drum pads: simmons, synare, syncussion..etc. I know that the Kawai R50e has been used in many jamaican productions of that era , its toms come from simmons SDS-V I suppose but they sound different.
I know MPC60 were adopted in Jamaica as soon as they were available but they still continued to use some popular sounds that were recorded from earlier drum machines/pads.
Old 11th February 2019
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Ingredients:
DMX + CS01 + DX100

Recipe:
link1
link2
i sold my DX100 to a dancehall 'artiste'.

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A dancehall 'artiste'.. You mean not an Artist like you?
edit: sorry, we have a spelling correction: 'artist'. wasn't 100% sure,
and it was late. not actually sure if he was 'dancehall' or another
reggage variant, and am equally sorry that i hadn't heard of him.
but he did say - at the time, around 93- that they used it for that
piano preset, so i was chuffed to see that DX100 really is a 'thing'
for that genre.

Last edited by whatever17; 12th February 2019 at 08:55 AM..
Old 12th February 2019
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i sold my DX100 to a dancehall 'artiste'.
A dancehall 'artiste'.. You mean not an Artist like you?
Old 12th February 2019
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Maybe one of the following
Alesis SR-16
Casio RZ-1
Yamaha RX-11
Roland TR something or Boss DR something?
That side stick sure does not sound Roland or Boss.

It's something with 8 or 12 bit samples, also clearly has individual outputs because of different levels of effects on the sounds. LinnDrum perhaps. Or Sequential Circuits Drumtraks? Maybe even a DMX tuned internally.
Old 1 week ago
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Anyone interested in early dancehall should check out this video featuring the dancehall progenitors, Steelie and Clevie. Its long but worth it. YouTube
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